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phf: didn't see the raid itself, but yeah much talk was about it on arrival
asciilifeform: phf: won't work. the capacitative sensing needs ~equal paths.
asciilifeform: last time they had a pres who wasn't a capon, they had to shoot him.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if either of my trbtrons aren't answering, now or whenever, gimme a ping
BingoBoingo: thestringpuller: Yes, but when going out to landing strip one doesn't deal with shopkeeps. WHich is why you need to have stringtimmers on truck.
thestringpuller: BingoBoingo: large amounts of nitro fuel << hobby shops don't seem to care. People go through barrels of the thing during a nerdy weekend with friends on the airfield.
asciilifeform: doesn't get any cheaper.
thestringpuller: or at least doesn't land with payload
thestringpuller: doesn't land.
mircea_popescu: !~later tell diametric do you know of a good reason a 2-3kg chopper couldn't be built on aluminum alloy frame ? not whether it is, nor why afficionado's don't, but whether couldn't.
asciilifeform: they don't scale down from that size.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform eh, what, it can't handle a few g's ? why not ?
mircea_popescu: shinohai i don't think anyone seriously contemplates importing the aferations of random soi dissant sovereigns.
mircea_popescu: why don't they call them sdrr then!
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-12#1540016 << these don't transmit. ☝︎
Framedragger: yawell, don't forget, routing is not a trivial problem. this is only the very beginning, i think. an occasion nonetheless though, surely!
Framedragger: entirely unrelated: wouldn't it be somethin' to test out some gossipd ideas over *actual* cheap long wave or whatever wave radio devices between these here people?
mircea_popescu: (it's also a wonder why they don't teach girls to masturbate in sex ed / have special sherub camps etc.)
Framedragger: wouldn't exactly object to reading that. girls sometimes are not in the know, either, which is pffft.
mircea_popescu: trinque i know i brought this on myself, but an unsubscribe will be useful so i don't get everything on gossipd spec twice lol
mircea_popescu: "we don't have identity" "well... cattle dun need identity"
mircea_popescu: the "secret tx pool" thing is trivial in theory ; in practice it opens you to a whole cat and mouse game and it didn't seem to me we're there yet.
a111: Logged on 2016-09-12 10:00 mircea_popescu: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160912/#76 << i recall explaining then, but i guess it didn't stick : the fact that transactions are malleable means no such thing as a "high only" pool may exist - others can malleate your "high only" txn and mine them as lows. meanwhile network effects prevent you building a mining farm that mines high-s txn : unless you control a significant portion of the hash, you will just mine orphans.
trinque: I haven't yet, but can.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yeah, truly there isn't, and truly tis a problem. but your question wasn't "hey, shouldn't we have a canonical manual of commands or something ?" to which the answer would have been "go, write" rather than tomato.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: gotcha. i felt shy because all these other smart people don't comment on the article, damn their restraint
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: but you don't think there may be a problem with flood of messages in the network across all "channels" / topics? it'd be neat if there was a way for a node to specify that it's only interested in things (specified by prefix, as in your example) under #trilema
mircea_popescu: yes, but now if i want to say "i suppose if one wants channels he can just prefix his lines with #trilema or whatever, but this is deliberately left to implementation" i don't have where to.
jurov: what's interesting, i don't see anything possibly related here: https://github.com/MariaDB/server/commits/10.1
mircea_popescu: and these two points aren't unrelated. the keystone of maturity is an ability to pick fights judiciously.
mircea_popescu: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160912/#76 << i recall explaining then, but i guess it didn't stick : the fact that transactions are malleable means no such thing as a "high only" pool may exist - others can malleate your "high only" txn and mine them as lows. meanwhile network effects prevent you building a mining farm that mines high-s txn : unless you control a significant portion of the hash, you will just mine orphans. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: t to notice.
ben_vulpes: can't imagine my failure to understand belongs on trilema
ben_vulpes: one of the other things i had scribbled down is that asciilifeform wants a crypto-hard wall against "teh ddos", and mircea_popescu appears satisfied that uninformed idiots who can't find keys are enough of a pill against the ddos. i don't see how this is an improvement on the ip address, which the average netizen is entirely uncognizant of.
a111: 723 results for "i don't know", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=i%20don't%20know
phf: !#s i don't know
pete_dushenski: obviously a 'cap' of 1.5x surge pricing is retarded and doesn't prevent drivers from being yahoos and scamming riders, as happened to yours truly last month in mtl when driver intentionally disobeyed my command and that of his gps toy and intentionally took wrong turn 'by accident' that led to a detour almost doubling the mileage of the trip
BingoBoingo: Nah, danielpbarron doesn't have that droopy eye
phf: i'm pretty sure cmucl's networking/threading interaction is busted. it shouldn't be, for all practical purposes it's an erlang model (green threads, and async io on vm level), but in practice the code is dodgy..
mircea_popescu: not in defense of shit rngs. but why specify something that needn't be.
asciilifeform: it remains to be demonstrated rigorously that mine does the job as claimed. which is why i haven't posted it quite yet.
trinque will join the discussion when he has something that hasn't been said, and not simply to "make voice heard" or "join the debate"
mircea_popescu: the matter in dispute is how to handle authentification. one solution is decrypt-challenge. the other solution is signed-hello. i reject signed-hello for a number of reasons, both practical and theoretical, which alf doesn't seem to think much of but which i am satisfied are sufficient to sink any attempt to implement a gossipd on sh. alf purports to reject dc on similar grounds, except i can't find anything like an argument
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: last reply is queued (contains phuctor link) and probably won't show up in trinque's feeder.
a111: Logged on 2016-09-11 16:15 mircea_popescu: in other lulz & assorted "daily wtf that never happened on the bitcoin network and if it did it's mp's fault anyway", a86c3b4efb1be5862dff6740a16cae83a785e78eb8a81b49c6f3337ca8e0b1cc being high-S got malleated by da3008e8b15d36343bc07c05cf107a7b6d29df0467901401410f8fe0d8c76488 which however... doesn't actually exist.
mircea_popescu: for this money, elliot also observed his pussy crushing doesn't work. went right back to it.
asciilifeform: eh hey we observed that the bloody thing doesn't reliably work, eons ago
mircea_popescu: in other lulz & assorted "daily wtf that never happened on the bitcoin network and if it did it's mp's fault anyway", a86c3b4efb1be5862dff6740a16cae83a785e78eb8a81b49c6f3337ca8e0b1cc being high-S got malleated by da3008e8b15d36343bc07c05cf107a7b6d29df0467901401410f8fe0d8c76488 which however... doesn't actually exist. ☟︎
Framedragger: so apparently the hosting provider which i've been paying since 2008 without sweat just went down. like, i can't load their homepage and client area. they better have a good explanation for entire cluster going down
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: no objections!! this is good stuff. can't see home partition under `mount` - disk subsystem appears to have failed. (so unfortunately may not be due to bots - yet; OR.. things are even more ominous, in which case, fun!)
Framedragger: (crazy. i'm dumping the contents of vim buffer through the literal ssh terminal, by hand, 'cause i can't save them and i need to. good times!)
Medow: No , i didn't
mircea_popescu: http://sameatschildren.tumblr.com/post/45962915522/do-it-now-guide-to-proper-bra-fit-and-measuring << not altogether a bad guide ; but the part where even usians figure out their everything is practically useless, often harmful and in any case shouldn't be used might make it into a BingoBoingo xtend ?
Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-10#1539132 << hm can you point to an example? couldn't find one ☝︎
asciilifeform: but it wouldn't pogo - not without writing the nand flash driver from ~scratch.
asciilifeform: phf: aha, it wasn't 'we', it was just me.
pete_dushenski: "we realised that we have no business in bitcoin/auto industry so we've elected to take the easier road of pretending that our deep reserves of offshore cash can be used for anything other than mattress stuffing. if you don't mind, we're just going to plug our ears now LALALALALALA"
pete_dushenski: if this isn't pure carcoin 2.0 except with "underlying autonomous technology" instead of altcoin 2.0 "underlying blockchain technology", i don't know what is. top kek.
mircea_popescu: rubies aren't that rare.
asciilifeform: ain't much of it to be had.
mircea_popescu: iirc windows doesn't handle more than 64k files per directory ? neh ?
mircea_popescu: wasn't on tv.
mircea_popescu: yes ; but the ones that didn't turn out functional didn't because of it ; the ones that did, they did in spite of it.
asciilifeform: it isn't pgp where you might have a 16384-bit key or a 1024 etc.
a111: Logged on 2016-09-11 00:47 mircea_popescu: "It is important to note that it is possible that instead of finding the magic ID, you instead find a bunch of zero bytes. In my own copy of the blockchain I have encountered a case when parsing through a .dat file, where the header is missing. Instead there is a large block of zero bytes and then the blockchain picks up again later. I don't know why/how this occurs."
mircea_popescu: "It is important to note that it is possible that instead of finding the magic ID, you instead find a bunch of zero bytes. In my own copy of the blockchain I have encountered a case when parsing through a .dat file, where the header is missing. Instead there is a large block of zero bytes and then the blockchain picks up again later. I don't know why/how this occurs." ☟︎
mod6: i don't have time to dig it up. but.. i might be mis-remembering
mod6: in fact, i think you said that you wouldn't sign them.
phf: asciilifeform: well, if you look at the seals folder you'll noticed that your sigs for the two patches are not there either, nor do i have them in my backup. since i remember meticulously going over mailing list and collecting vpatches and sigs, then correlating them to what mod6 had, then ... etc. etc. i suspect that there's some reason for why they are missing but i don't remember what it is. i suspect that it has something to do with regrinds t
phf: a111 can't even
phf: asciilifeform: http://thebitcoin.foundation/v/seals/ ask mod6, but i suspect that both were reground, and you didn't resign either since that happened
ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-10#1538902 << you'll probably find this as useful as any other rodent carcass left on your pillow, but over the last 2 months i've racked my own metal, migrated out of virtualization to the new box, ported my blog to mp-wp, and stood the obvious tmsr services up on the new box (blog, paster, node). it doesn't look like much from the outside, but paying down debt of necessity ☝︎
mircea_popescu: "nigga, i wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire, who the fuck do you imagine is going through artistic queue movements."
asciilifeform hasn't been inside a bank in ~decade
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Well, this is what happens when you don't build an Atlantic wall to keep spammers from becoming immigrants
pete_dushenski: in other alpha greens, i can totally get behind the definition of 'alpha male' that doesn't involve maintaining palaces full of harem girls. a deep sigh of relief was breathed across the land.
mircea_popescu: shouldn't be that hard to find.
shinohai: I didn't like the extra comma, twas removed
asciilifeform can't be arsed to listen to it either, he's listening to police radio and it is gut-bustingly hilarious
mircea_popescu: and in other pi delta chi news : sluts can't spell. http://66.media.tumblr.com/fd8ac4df3e24c750579697d584510b07/tumblr_od52zaeZCw1ud9ntao1_1280.jpg
thestringpuller: trinque: This doesn't change the fact the initiative trend towards bloat rather than efficiency.
trinque: doesn't the paper count in this context?
thestringpuller: trinque: sure. but from my experience with payment processors they only exist because people don't know how to use money.
mircea_popescu: well looky, consumer payments aren't really financial exchange. they're you know, cc payments.
asciilifeform: i don't do ritualistic epidemiology.
asciilifeform: i also do not care what the other one licked if i actually grasp subj. e.g., i don't give a fuck that it produced ada.
a111: Logged on 2016-09-10 03:03 mircea_popescu: it's a wonder actually, that alf's personal antigens of 1.(the usg is in all things - in his personal flavour of this) + 2.(if you lick my lunch i will starve today) don't completely preclude any action whatsoever.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-10#1538962 << the way this knot is cut is that there are 2 usg, the one that delivers my mail every couplea weeks to the house across the street, and the other one. and i don't give a flying fuck what the dumb one licked. ☝︎
thestringpuller: although most CC tx's go through first data i don't thin they process them all
trinque: lets dance around everywhere because we don't understand how actual payments occur in the world, and are used to criticizing the ass-clowns in the bitcoin space.
asciilifeform: well yes, because p. t. barnum.
asciilifeform: just like i won't buy an engine with 1% coefficient of useful work.
trinque: so don't take
asciilifeform: trinque: i can say when a deal is a bum deal and i won't take.
thestringpuller: there's a reason I don't pay for my groceries in pennies...
thestringpuller: don't micropayments normally amount to spam?
thestringpuller: !~later tell tell pete_dushenski I have a car dilemma. I can't figure out what model Cadillac this is. If I send you pics could you decipher?
thestringpuller: ;;later tell pete_dushenski I have a car dilemma. I can't figure out what model Cadillac this is. If I send you pics could you decipher?
mircea_popescu: it's a wonder actually, that alf's personal antigens of 1.(the usg is in all things - in his personal flavour of this) + 2.(if you lick my lunch i will starve today) don't completely preclude any action whatsoever. ☟︎
trinque: doesn't it though.