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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, the issue isn't whether we should have proper rt comms ; the issue is why the fuck would i want an intermediate step here. i don't, it's a great way to waste manhours.

mircea_popescu: wtf do i want to reimplement bs irc, end up with a dead genesis that we won't use.

mircea_popescu: which is what's his interest in all this, i dunno why he recently figured out he wants a special irc network.

mircea_popescu: which is why i said, ~= banning

trinque: if the circumstance arose where somebody lifted "asciilifeform" I wouldn't be opposed to changing the alias string for same key to "alfredalfer" as I've handled expired keys in the past, by proving control of key to me

asciilifeform: i thought he was negrated for desertion

asciilifeform: voice, i meant

asciilifeform: ( or am i mistaken ? trinque , if can't use nick, can still auth with deedbot ? or not )

asciilifeform: 'Unfortunately, some people have used this opportunity to spread some misinformation, claiming that "all passwords have been released". This is not the case; there has been no threat to account security due to this incident. Additionally, we do not store passwords in a recoverable form at all.' << i've a bridge to sell.

mircea_popescu: i honestly can't be arsed.

asciilifeform: ( and for some reason they announced it via spamatron ? or whole thing, disinfo? i've neither any idea, nor particularly care... http://logs.bvulpes.com/pizarro?d=2018-5-26#363971 )

mircea_popescu: anyway. rather than the transparent shenanigans, it is of greater concern that ~no one is on freenode. i mean, the fucktards in #lisp still, TO THIS DAY, haven't yet figured their way out of the paper bag of my asking "hey folk, would you like a candi_lustt ?".

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i seem to recall electrum being one of those turds that ~nobody was able to get to even build, and ~all of the users used a binturd, which at least 1nce turned out to contain straight back orifice

a111: Logged on 2016-02-19 15:24 mircea_popescu: <mircea_popescu> so now with https://blog.freenode.net/2016/02/recent-events-and-future-changes/ it is probably a good time to point out that i've been trying to get you people a server for maybe three years now. are you still unable to be helped or has that bad habit of the past changed also ? kloeri ? mist ? or who do i talk to.

mircea_popescu: i'm just talking about the one they themselves identified, 3 years ago or so.

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i guess we can revisit this hypothesis when somebody asks your bot to transmute 100btc worth of shitcoin, and hostile upstream node bamboozles yer electrum into sending it to hitler.

ben_vulpes: once it turns into a real item, aka bitcoin, i care. until then, nop

ben_vulpes: there are things for which i care about maintaining the tree of inputs that resulted in my balance, and there's ephemeral shit

asciilifeform: trinque: i dun think i've ever driven anything but 'beater car'

trinque: I guess asciilifeform never had the proverbial beater car

asciilifeform: i.e. you are relying on somebody else's node .

ben_vulpes: i'm not using it as a node, i'm using it as a scalpel to slice flesh off altcoiners

asciilifeform: i suspect the result will be interesting mostly as a 'journal of negative results' item. ( gox, for instance, can quietly swallow coin, once it cottons on to who's using api, and why . asciilifeform's acct, last time around, was -- interestingly -- closed by goxkeeper , tho a coupla days too late to have any effect )

mircea_popescu: note that i was talking to jurov. considering he's intelligent and seems maybe interested (hard to tell, he's so quiet), and considering he's not currently doing anything, the marginal cost in republican terms is 0.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i was thinking re detail of http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-29#1819365 : theoretically a pure shitcoin<->btc transmutator, does not need gox in the loop, if shitcoin ~buyers~ could be persuaded to visit it and buy ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2018-05-29 13:31 phf: there's a kind of white trash beach resort area 2 hours driving from dc "ocean city". i've been going there with some friends first day of summer for the past few years for that kitsch americana experience: all you can eat crabs, dirty east coast ocean, trashy girls. perfect :)

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-29#1819461 << hey, i know a place or two like that around cape cod! though they usually don't get wet. ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2018-05-29 13:17 phf: mod6: it's going alright. i have this general fatigue that i'm having hard time shaking off, but i'm going to go to the ocean on friday for a couple of days, which ought to fix me

a111: Logged on 2018-05-29 12:41 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-29#1819414 << i could never understand the charges: i always thought that bateman was very earnestly participating in all the games, but it's the world around him that was completely devoid of substance

asciilifeform: no need, i can link to as-is

mod6: I can html-ify it for ya.

asciilifeform: mod6 et al : i'm still interested in , at least in theoretical stage, a less-retarded replacement for dieharder

mod6: I do have these ones too for the one hooked up to the rockchip, not sure if interested: http://mod6.net/2018/May/12/rockchip_fg_test.txt

lobbes: BingoBoingo: I left a comment on yer guide re: php5.6 shitgnomes deprecating mysql in favor of mysqli. (Should be in queue). This will be a boon indeed if we can string all the quirks of mp-wp-on-rockchip in one place

asciilifeform: ^ now has link to mod6 , danielpbarron , trinque , and BingoBoingo 's FG tests. if anyone else posted FG tester outputs and i missed -- please write in !

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: ty for your tests! i have linked your pg from http://nosuchlabs.com/hardware.html now.

diana_coman: BingoBoingo, thanks; looking forward to the rest of the walk to mp-wp at any rate (I can see the appeal of ligthtpd for sure)

BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-29#1819338 << ty, I plan on blogging the rest of the walk to mp-wp on the rockchip so it is on the shelf for future reference. ☝︎

phf: there's a kind of white trash beach resort area 2 hours driving from dc "ocean city". i've been going there with some friends first day of summer for the past few years for that kitsch americana experience: all you can eat crabs, dirty east coast ocean, trashy girls. perfect :) ☟︎

phf: yeah that's what i'm doing, a long weekend

mod6: Werd. I gotta remember to work on finding some time. Even if just a long weekened or whatever.

mod6: I'm hoping to get some vacation in, still trying to plan something. Nothing definite yet though.

mod6: speaking of maryland, I saw that one town near baltimore had some raging torrents of rain rushing through the streets this weekend.

phf: mod6: it's going alright. i have this general fatigue that i'm having hard time shaking off, but i'm going to go to the ocean on friday for a couple of days, which ought to fix me ☟︎

phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-29#1819414 << i could never understand the charges: i always thought that bateman was very earnestly participating in all the games, but it's the world around him that was completely devoid of substance ☝︎☟︎

lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-15#1799701 << esthlos, how'd you resolve this? I'm having the same issue with mp-wp saying php is missing the mysql extension, despite having the mysql USE flag set when I emerged php5.6. Full details of my issue here: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/zNr0A/?raw=true ☝︎☟︎

lobbes: aha! I can confirm BingoBoingo's excellent guide works like a charm; php5.6 successfully built in ol' lobbes' rockchip

mircea_popescu: girls keep betting me they can distinguish the two apart, and then that's the last i hear on the matter.

mircea_popescu: a long, long, time ago... but i can still remember...

mod6: Ah, I'll dig up your review here.

mircea_popescu: i reviewed it recently. it's pretty great imo.

mod6: i've never seen 'naked city'

a111: Logged on 2015-01-30 05:51 mircea_popescu: which is why i am not ever giving it up. the freedom to threaten is not merely my fundamental, unassailable sovereign property, but moreover essential for the construction of effectual instruments to squash the socialists and their golums.

mod6: I gotta re-watch this now.

mod6: i remember the film. only watched it once though, probably around the time it came out.

asciilifeform: 'Fuck your world where there's no place for me, I thought in despair. If I can't destroy it, at least I'll die a fine death in the attempt, along with others like me. I had no concrete image of how this would come about, but from past experience I knew that he who seeks fate is always provided an opportunity; I would not remain without one.'

mircea_popescu: yeah, it's uniformly terrible. as it happens i just rewatched the original american psycho.

asciilifeform: the translator sweated, however : 'My girl they will snatch / From the car by the nape / And I will then watch / The men commit rape '

asciilifeform: 'Who was I over there? What's the difference, what would it change? I hate the past, as I always have, in the name of the present. Well, I was a poet, if you must know, a poet was I, an unofficial, underground poet. That's over forever, and now I am one of yours, I am scum, I'm the one to whom you feed shchi and rotten cheap California wine – $3.59 a gallon – and yet I scorn you. Not all of you, but many. Because you lead dull li

asciilifeform: 'You don't like me? You don't want to pay? It's precious little – $278 a month. You don't want to pay. Then why the fuck did you invite me, entice me here from Russia, along with a horde of Jews? Present your complaints to your own propaganda, it's too effective. That's what's emptying your pockets, not I.'

asciilifeform: where he, e.g., : 'I am on welfare. I live at your expense, you pay taxes and I don't do a fucking thing. Twice a month I go to the clean, spacious welfare office at 1515 Broadway and receive my checks. I consider myself to be scum, the dregs of society, I have no shame or conscience, therefore my conscience doesn't bother me and I don't plan to look for work, I want to receive your money to the end of my days. And my name is Edichka

mircea_popescu: i thought it was mostly wank published by various french people ~about~ the funny friday fellow that someone imported to his salon.

asciilifeform: that one i have nfi about.

asciilifeform: 'historian' is definitely not how i'd describe eduard l. ( b. savenko ) d00d

asciilifeform: which limonov did mircea_popescu read, i now gotta ask

asciilifeform: what i did not know, is that english-speaking specimens of this, exist

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, look into that nationalist-stalinist dood i fished out. now THAT is some primo extinct species. i had nfi such extreme rarities even existed, in my book the only nationalist-stalinists were stalin himself and ceausescu. not even broz tito. but lo and behold, a french-dwelling irishman!

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-28#1819317 << i'ma definitely try this in the coming days, ave1 ☝︎

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-28#1819298 << during the 1st lolfork, i did this for self, and for a friend, prolly time to revv up the relevant tool again ( if anybody ~really~ doesn't feel like doing his own: gpggram asciilifeform, we'll work something out ) ☝︎

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-27#1819283 << ha, i had nfi that any of the shitforks were still chugging along ☝︎

mircea_popescu: o hey, there you are. i was starting to think you got kidnapped!

lobbes: Oh hey. Ty BingoBoingo for that php5.6-on-gentoo-rockchip guide. I will try it out (paging diana_coman)

ben_vulpes: i don't care to hang on to any forkcoins, no

a111: Logged on 2018-05-27 20:04 mod6: jurov: thank's for the Q. I'm fine with liquidation. ben_vulpes, agree/disagree?

ben_vulpes: oh i think that can go

mircea_popescu: i thought google is all about fresh content!

a111: Logged on 2018-05-27 18:35 spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-26#1819113 <-- I personally like trinque's proposal because it enforces a certain level of hygiene and because it doesn't require calling gpg from lisp. but I'm more curious about what other bot operators have to say about it. so even if for example the poker bot needs to handle funds into its own deedbot wallet, I'm curious whether this semi-manual scheme would be feasible.

lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-27#1819256 << lobbesbot uses the 'dedicated key residing on the box it is on' method, but indeed, that key controls does not control any funds nor anything else of consequence besides voicing. Now, when I get tickerbot going (will be a separate bot) I'll probably use the 'pre-prepared !!v string for voicing' method for the same reasons you've stated (hygiene and no need to ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2018-05-25 17:49 trinque: if Mocky were here I'd ask him if he sees the problem yet

phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-27#1819192 << i'm pretty sure you have to free after you use make-cstring. with-cstrs puts the content onto stack (that's what (DECLARE (DYNAMIC-EXTENT X)) in macroexpand does) ☝︎

phf: (ccl:with-cstrs ((x "/tmp/fooXXXXXX")) (#_mkdtemp x)) should just work. i'm not sure why esthlos has a nesting there

mod6: fair enough. I was just trying to get a mental idea of where it's at. I don't activly track BCH or BTG. We'll see what ben_vulpes has to say.

jurov: OK, the rate will be different because it will take some time (i'm using home-patched electrum to generate the txen)

mod6: So yeah, I'm in to sell those two symbols into BTC.

mod6: jurov: thank's for the Q. I'm fine with liquidation. ben_vulpes, agree/disagree? ☟︎

spyked: anyway, /me finds the tv format increasingly repetitive and hard to follow. last thing I saw was cowboy bebop, and found about a third of it boring. the other two thirds were worth it though, I can now say I've seen most tv anime.

spyked: hm. hbo also had a series with boobage starring the guy from x-files, forgot his name. but that was mid-90s I think?

spyked: mircea_popescu, dun think I've seen that one either. first somewhat "creepy" movie I've seen was Twin Peaks cca 1992. but not creepy in the horror sense, and I was 4yo at the time, didn't get much of what was happening.

mircea_popescu: spyked, anyway, i wouldn't say it's a good movie. run of the mill 80s tv camp, with vampires and whatnot. "tales from the crypt" fare, if you recall that show.

spyked: I won't dwell on it too much though. could in principle also end up with both implementations and let operator choose via Common Lisp's *features*... if this doesn't mess up the code too much.

spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-26#1819113 <-- I personally like trinque's proposal because it enforces a certain level of hygiene and because it doesn't require calling gpg from lisp. but I'm more curious about what other bot operators have to say about it. so even if for example the poker bot needs to handle funds into its own deedbot wallet, I'm curious whether this semi-manual scheme would be feasible. ☝︎☟︎

a111: Logged on 2018-05-27 15:06 mircea_popescu: incidentally, if anyone can explain wtf selection dun work on pages, i'd be thankful

spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-27#1819230 <-- looking at http://trilema.com/republican-thesaurus/ , I see that the selection script looks for subtrees under the "shash-39332" span element, but there's none to be found in the rest of the document. is the <span id="shash..."> bit included in page.php? if so, then it's really odd. ☝︎

lobbes: interesting, I had no idea. I only knew of Cape Verde, Azores, and of course Portugal (which I wrote off due to: island, island, nato)

lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-27#1819227 << This was my realization, as well; to immerse myself in the german language I'd have to move to... europe.pantsuit central >> http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-29#1790965 ☝︎☝︎

mircea_popescu: incidentally, if anyone can explain wtf selection dun work on pages, i'd be thankful ☟︎

diana_coman: lobbes, re php 7.2 I'm totally lost as to what new (as opposed to old) mess it brings in

diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-26#1819137 -> they do indeed so it seems it is the same problem, yes; I just didn't know if anyone had already struggled with it with any success ☝︎

esthlos: oh I should add, the vast majority of time of the proggy is spent calling gpg. would be nice to replace that turd

esthlos: though wrt the pentesting, I would be grateful for any flaws found