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phf: did we do the whole debian as gentoo thing conversation?
asciilifeform: phf: it was pitched as somehow decrufted
asciilifeform: lulzily, i recently tried 'trisquel linux' distro on a thinkpad x60, as mentioned, e.g., here, https://libreboot.org/docs/gnulinux/grub_boot_installer.html - it croaks on boot during acpi init.
danielpbarron: >> This comes Trump's << comes as* ?
BingoBoingo: I mean what the fuck else do you call someone who "bugs out" with a bag full of stuff as their primary preparation.
deedbot-: [Qntra] Bridges Suspected Of Having Unknown Accomplices As Sound Money Undermines Fiat Loyalties - http://qntra.net/2016/02/bridges-suspected-of-having-unknown-accomplices-as-sound-money-undermines-fiat-loyalties/
mircea_popescu: (but yes, capon is the word. the moment you see a kid with a "college education" "despising" violence, you know precisely the fuck's going on. as per alf's discussion of those exploited monkeys, exactly. oxen gathering together to talk out of line about the bull's specific smell.)
asciilifeform: i still want to know what mircea_popescu sees naggum as ought to have done.
mircea_popescu: it'd necessarily be and remain unsuccessful, for as long as naggum thinks socialism works, the idiots keep spawning. they come... from him.
phf: ben_vulpes: http://www.winestockwebdesign.com/Essays/Lisp_Curse.html << i am surprised that this has not yet been linked here << it's a whole genre, with roots in usenet days. "~i~ of course grok lisp, but the masses won't, so i use perl, which is as good, so ya'll should stop whatever you're doing". has the standard reaction of "where the fuck are you idiots coming from". naggum gained his notoriety mostly by arguing with these people,
mircea_popescu: (me as a small child spent a while lost in this entire separator mode)
mircea_popescu: separate. weren't you talking about separation as the basis of engineering ? what became of that ?
mircea_popescu: "The reason why this doesn't happen is because of the Lisp Curse. Large numbers of Lisp hackers would have to cooperate with each other. Look more closely: Large numbers of the kind of people who become Lisp hackers would have to cooperate with each other. And they would have to cooperate with each other on a design which was not already a given from the beginning. And there wouldn't be any external discipline, such as
mircea_popescu: "With some justice, JavaScript has been described as "Scheme in C's clothing" despite originating in those cube farm hells."
mircea_popescu: about as poor as church mice, the dumb runts in the litter.
mircea_popescu: the dudes are programmers about as much as the chicks are feminists.
asciilifeform: this is as far as i'm able to follow the thought process before it ceases to make sense.
mircea_popescu: seems deeply uninformed as to how biological processes with a cognitive component work in humans.
asciilifeform: as breivik, later
mircea_popescu: self-described feminist is, definitionally, old-gendered person that hasn't yet come to terms with it, still sees self as female.
mircea_popescu: so then what is all this talking of feminists as if one gives a shit ?
mircea_popescu: iirc the gfx were still full of holes, today as in 2005.
deedbot-: [Qntra] US Farmers Shift To Complete Loss Control Mode As Corn Belt Keeps Fraying - http://qntra.net/2016/02/us-farmers-shift-to-complete-loss-control-mode-as-corn-belt-keeps-fraying/
asciilifeform: or, as described in mircea_popescu's mega-article, 'A convicted felon and general low life ran a Ponzi scheme. Various soi-dissant US authorities were notified in private to proceed with prosecution, capture the felon and deliver him to justice, as well as publicly months before the scheme's collapse, but instead chose to delay taking any action whatsoever until a year afterwards, in spite of the felon in question being a US r
mircea_popescu: as you can tell, that bfl thing utterly got my fucking goat.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it is one of the reasons why i see malware artists as doing godly work, and wish to help them
asciilifeform: in more than a month of active combing, i was not able to dredge up so much as ONE adult implementation of c-s.
asciilifeform: the field is as dead as anything one might care to think of.
mircea_popescu: doesn't that mean the batteries will have to power 6x as much car as gasoline ?
asciilifeform: today he is better known as an ardent copyrast, than a writer.
assbot: Logged on 25-02-2016 18:29:41; asciilifeform: no amount of travel or whatnot can cure a man who experienced western civilization in 1960, and believes that we can bring back the airplanes by cargoculting to what he perceives as the rules of the era.
assbot: Logged on 25-02-2016 18:21:37; pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-02-2016#1415265 << nonsense. sistine chapel qualifies as a canvas and it's what 41x13m ?
danielpbarron: was considering betting against myself but decided against it because i figured if i was right, there would be a massive bet to follow anyway and it would just knock my percent down anyway; might as well stick with my first bet and hope a miracle happens
pete_dushenski: beautiful white children as the majority." He signs off by telling recipients, "Don’t vote for a Cuban. Vote for Donald Trump." "
pete_dushenski: as also used to the methods we use in Zimbabwe when we get in these situations, so I said to him: " Come on Sir, what if I give you something? Will that speed up the process?" I'm sure he could tell from from my accent where I'm from so he looked me in the eye, lowered his voice and said to me softly : "Sir, you have just offered me a bribe. We don't do that around here."
danielpbarron: funny thing, the number is about as long as the (1 more message)
asciilifeform: but just as effectivelyt
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: editing text is 99% of what i do as well
pete_dushenski: phf: that's very much why i specified '2nd-tier' ru city, though i suppose this was based on the presumption that most of the mediation was happening in larger urban centres, which i suppose statistically it must have been, but whether that made it easier or harder to break mediated mold in smaller centres isn't thereby granted as being in any way obvious, admittedly.
asciilifeform: no amount of travel or whatnot can cure a man who experienced western civilization in 1960, and believes that we can bring back the airplanes by cargoculting to what he perceives as the rules of the era. ☟︎
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-02-2016#1415265 << nonsense. sistine chapel qualifies as a canvas and it's what 41x13m ? ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: can;'t say as i have
mircea_popescu: you'll still going to have to do some porting. just as long as it's not 52 or some other mit-esque idiocy, should really not be a big deal.
asciilifeform: 'polish' encode cyrillic, as gnarly diphthongs, etc in latin
phf: i've been mulling over that question with logs. fwiw, entire log can be kept in memory for analysis, annotation, whatever, 180mb as utf-8 byte arrays. with unicode strings takes up twice the memory on 16-bit cmucl, and ~~4 times on 32-bit sbcl. i'm not yet convinced that transcoding everything you get into string and then transcoding it back to a bytearray onto the wire is the best strategy ☟︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform as long as "unicode was sent" neatly transforms into "we received a broken string of ascii" all is well.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform same as what means cleanly in medicine : is it a fistula or a bump.
phf: i kind of look at it like version 0.5.3. there's barely any development on it, very little actively harmful code, if you don't count asdf 3.* in contribs. it works, it can be studied and improved upon, as it stands it's utterly ignored by the cool kids. there are also of course technical merits, the compiler is conceptually identical and on average almost as good (there were many micro optimizations done by sbcl team, but even they are
phf: it's a bit down the pipeline for me. there were some attempts to make cmucl go entirely syscall, but as it stands it's probably 40% there. i want to link it to musl first, and then play around with control interfaces uses curses/cl-charm, which is when i'll test out this thing
kakobrekla: i didnt say 'what' is open. could as well be the doors.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu, as usual, nails it.
asciilifeform: i cite the cable method as a kind of final solution.
asciilifeform: and, as i said, capture the frames.
mircea_popescu: ima try to identify the mammaries and pick the species with the largest ones as a candidate for intelligence.
mircea_popescu: (and yes - it's not "the ability to communicate", as early darwinists thought, out of their inclination towards pious frauds to favour socialism, that distinguishes us from animals. nor is it "an ability to make and use tools", as the 50s folk retreated to in desperation. no, none of that - just this, that our females have tits so deeply disproportionate to their bodies it is unseen in nature. CIVILISATION!)
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-02-2016#1415190 << you know, back when bali was actually a thing, and actually worth going to. as opposed to "yet another ustard strip mall", which... seriously who the fuck wants to go tourist in those ? and if they wanted to, why not just go to disneyworld and be done with it. ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-02-2016#1415029 << i am actually very ambivalent about recommending an integer field arithm cipher for use as block cipher on a conventional pc. for one thing, we will have transfer rates measured in kb/sec (if we're lucky.) for another, extreme side channel danger, because we're branching-on-secrets. for a third, entropy starvation. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: relationship between SEI and DOD, as well as directing the defendant to publicly
asciilifeform: i say this as statement of (afaik) fact, not judgement.
asciilifeform: no coast dweller, to first approximation, knows or gives so much as a spoonful of shit what happens in the places where one may meet with bulls.
asciilifeform: and the places where they can be seen, may as well be mars.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> and in india you can see cows stopping traffic, as if important... << http://qntra.net/2015/11/bull-farmer-killed-in-shootout-while-protecting-life/
mircea_popescu: nevertheless, the custom of shitholes, such as romania, russia etc, is to issue title on apts.
asciilifeform: and in india you can see cows stopping traffic, as if important...
mircea_popescu: as it is, it's fucking common to see an entire outdoor cafe filled with nothing but singles of these derps sitting there all important and shit.
mircea_popescu: as if anyone could possibly not be outraged by the proposition that murder is gender-different
mircea_popescu: they appear as little notifications in the buildings, by the elevators (this is how i know about how widespread the problem is - originalyl)
mircea_popescu: i would say about 80% of individual holders in the city hold their property as unpriviledged creditors of a company they do not control.
asciilifeform: and they are just as terrible as solrodar's
trinque: I find it far more likely that such a bent mind blows through whatever pile he amasses because he's as dishonest inwardly as outwardly
mircea_popescu: the relationship between buterin and the mit-driven, elen shoe or what's her stupid name managed alt-bitcoin scam is approximately the same as the relationship between preet bharara and the us rogue state.
pete_dushenski: aha. buterin. http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-02-2016#1414687 namely that alf imagines he would sit on the king's throne but nor wear his crown if only they could swap places as in a dream ☝︎
asciilifeform: as in, i stepped on one today, and did not first tell it 'you were a worm'
mircea_popescu: programmers make the funniest whores, i swear. rarely have i seen actual call girls sitting around in the limo earnestly deploring their fate as compared to the toothless scamp collapsed in a dirty heap in the back alley.
mircea_popescu: dude does all the work three midlevel project managers in a shitty thirld world country wanna-be second hand tech firm do. you perceive this as "not have to work", on the grounds that he doesn't seem to mind it.
mircea_popescu: inasmuch as the enemy can delude himself into that, he can delude himself into anything and is warmly welcome to it.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-02-2016#1414593 << in so far as the enemy can readily deduce that none of us are mining, the 'outside' of the bottle deductively exists. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: i am not prepared to admit usg ownership over as much as the fucking bathroom of the oval office.
phf: i always thought of it as more of a backchannel, i.e. there's the dead drops with their own rules of engagement and then there's also the mail you get in post.
mircea_popescu: and as a more general point : we aren't sealing ourselves off in an ideal world (see the "island of Bitcoin" / "let's get a geographical unit started" threads throughout log history). we are simply constructing indefeatable corruption.
mircea_popescu: the whole point of gossipd, as i was trying to explain it to that torhead dude, is that you can't know.
mircea_popescu: phf is your definition of "network at large" as "all those ips that are not connected to a node connected to someone in l2" ?
pete_dushenski: as if ice is wunderwaffen
asciilifeform: items such as keeping bastard blocks/tx around don't count as 'rangery' ?
mircea_popescu: kinda what i've been saying. it makes little sense to call say, original bitcoin as per satoshi release prb.
mircea_popescu: if you're particularly inclined to act as a propaganda agent for prb, you may make that wholly unsubstantiated, ridiculous claim.
asciilifeform: as far as i can tell, they are running very lightly-modified old prb.
asciilifeform: (as far as i can tell)
asciilifeform: it applies just as well to us.
mircea_popescu: i might as well hold painting contests for a jar of fruit flies.
assbot: Logged on 24-02-2016 14:04:42; jurov: kek dat log, again. good mircea_popescu is not trying to pin down ip address of therealbitcoin.org, as it has bunch of IP that constantly change
jurov: kek dat log, again. good mircea_popescu is not trying to pin down ip address of therealbitcoin.org, as it has bunch of IP that constantly change ☟︎
asciilifeform: one of the many reasons i see it as a noble game.
assbot: Logged on 24-02-2016 12:02:18; mircea_popescu: lol how you know genuine chinese - preoccupied with phone as proxy.
assbot: Logged on 24-02-2016 11:47:29; mircea_popescu: 170kW farm, double the nethash. just as rewards halve. should be fun, if they actually got the chips.
asciilifeform: i always saw the mob as a very positive, higherpurpose thing, in the strict sense of keeping lizards out of a small but strong bubble of sovereignty
assbot: Logged on 24-02-2016 11:09:02; punkman: "The FTC provided a copy of an originally sealed document that outlined the spending it said was cause for concern. It said Butterfly Labs’ funds had been spent at stores “including Nordstrom, Bed, Bath, & Beyond, Restoration Hardware, and Hobby Lobby” as well as for “massages, auto maintenance, day care services, gun stores, hunting stores and sporting event tickets.”"
mircea_popescu: bitcoin should have been implemented as a solution to pdp timesharing problems.
mircea_popescu: by having [hopefully as an extension of assbot] a payment interface in chan.
mircea_popescu: lol how you know genuine chinese - preoccupied with phone as proxy. ☟︎