asciilifeform: btw , esp for diana_coman , e.g. 1000 byte payload will be a 1028 byte total mass. (header)
asciilifeform: ( i predict that any frag at all will give loss that cancels out the win from using heavy packets. but nobody should take my word for it, test, test )
asciilifeform: well yes : conceivably 'frags in 2' worx ~100% of time, but 'in 8' not etc☟︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: aha yer likely to get same result with 2048 as with 20000
asciilifeform: ( ~inside~ some lands you can get 'jumbogram', up to coupla kB, but this is not really interesting from our pov imho )
asciilifeform: what i'm curious about, is how far below also frag.
asciilifeform: ( what did shitgnome have against mtu measurer , gotta wonder )
asciilifeform: loox like even this basic util, will have to go in cuntoo from asciilifeform's ( or trinque's ) vintage tarballs museum, rather than from 'current'
asciilifeform: trinque: fwiw i was able to measure mtu ~from~ dulap, using USE="tracepath" emerge iptools and tracepath -4 asciilifeformshouse
asciilifeform: trinque: i just noticed this, on dulap also, apparently some recent year's shitgnomism in gentoo mutilated traceroute
asciilifeform: note that fragging takes place exactly 1ce, as only final destination ever unfrags. and in my case it happens right where my iron meets isp's fibertron.
asciilifeform: this # btw includes packet headers. ergo max payload , will be slightly smaller
asciilifeform: ( anybody else get different number ?? mod6 ? trinque ? et al )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the sad-802.11 thing is endemic ( recall asciilifeform's recipe of how to terraform ibm x60 . step 1 is to pull out the wireless nic and stuff in ye olde atheros )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: there's some % who actually endrivered various new iron. e.g. dulap kernel built for arm64 won't actually boot on rk, needs the little bit of chinesium ( i have it laid out, fwiw , mostly, specifically for when we pour cement )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: e.g. the chinese rk people
asciilifeform: most of'em prolly not even smelled the smoke yet
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: as i understand, most of what thing consisted of, was massive gaggle of iron maker sponsored driver-makin' folx
asciilifeform: as for the 'code of conduct' liquishit, apparently thing is written by some purpose-built pantsuit org in berlin, and standardized, and right after l. signing the instrument of surrender, the purges kicked off
asciilifeform: ( for folx who aint sov-entomologists : pavlik morozov was a kid who turned in own father to dekulakizers. for this, grandfather beheaded him with axe. and kid was made into an Official 'hero' )
asciilifeform: benjies only work because they eventually return to 'miami', sorta like yer mains socket only worx because current able to go in the neutral pin
asciilifeform: as i understand, this is how mircea_popescu ended up setting bozo bit on argentines. 100% pig-os.
asciilifeform: cuz the answer is nearly always 'not only less slop, but butcher shop' and conversation stops there.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i've found that it is normally impossible to explain any such thing to folx who operate in 'pig logic', i.e. 'would there be moar? or less?, slop in my trough?'
asciilifeform: ( i dun think, e.g., lichtenstein, worries re 'leaking dollars' )
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: as i understand, orcistani rulers are perfectly free to stop out-inflating the usd, and then can quit worrying re 'leaking hard currency' any time they want
asciilifeform: 'oh noez, bus could take moneybags to some OTHER street'
asciilifeform: '"I am not happy with the dominance of Chinese contractors. In the first place, the money that they get from these contracts is externalised and all that they return here are meagre wages," said Edgar Syakachoma, himself a contractor. "Let the government also give us the contracts so that they benefit Zambians."' << hey, recall mircea_popescu's piece with the argentine anti-bus protesters
asciilifeform: ( classical btc 'thermodynamics', predispose to cartel. but 'kinetics' of ~randomsoup (vs 'intelligent' routing) make this less apparent. )
asciilifeform: then again we may already be in the midst of just such a thing, there's, what, ~20k distinct nodes operating, and overwhelming majority of these, are simply rubbish
asciilifeform: and theoretically if the cartel births '9000' new sybils, it will force the use of something like my algo, whether anyone wants to or not, the layer of sibylade would become undrillable in its absence . but this is admittedly a stretch.☟︎
asciilifeform: the fundamental problem is that the conditions favouring miner cartels are already baked into btc per se.
asciilifeform: but end result may end up being a net where even moar 'winner take all' than presently.
