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asciilifeform: possibly even worse ^ , btw, than mp_en_viaje's item
stjohn_piano_2: well, i'd use human-powered ocr then (given residual rsi). i've hired transcribers before. i'd then correct the result myself.
asciilifeform: stjohn_piano_2: if you're a serious meat-ocr, asciilifeform has a tough cookie, http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-23#1909563 , would defo pay for quality hand-entry of it ☝︎☟︎
nicoleci: mp_en_viaje, that was a long one, five hours...
asciilifeform: was gonna say. stjohn_piano_2 take a look at his input, it's the ultimate, possibly, torture test for ocrtron, 18th c. manuscript.
stjohn_piano_2: ah. i'll look at the original.
mp_en_viaje: i mean, it'll be more work to correct than to write.
mp_en_viaje: you can't ocr that.
stjohn_piano_2: well, we'd choose some hourly rate agreeable to both of us. i'd use an OCR site and correct the result. eventually, i might invest time in my own ocr fork.
mp_en_viaje: nicoleci, ey bimbo, how long did that take you ?
stjohn_piano_2: mp_en_viaje: i highly doubt that edgecase can compete with slave labour.
mp_en_viaje: stjohn_piano_2, to continue that line, what'd http://bimbo.club/2019/05/philosophical-transactions-for-the-months-of-jan-febr-and-march-1716-part-v/ cost if edgecase did it ?
stjohn_piano_2: asciilifeform: yes. i have imported the corresponding priv key to this instance of gpg.
asciilifeform: stjohn_piano_2: at the risk of belabouring the obv., you gotta see to it that yer custom pgp wrapper actually has access to the priv that went with the pub you regged
stjohn_piano_2: mp_en_viaje: i agree. no problem, i'm used to that reaction.
mp_en_viaje: nuts. it so happens it sounds exactly like what the "transparently clever & ironic" made-up name an xkcd-minded 2010s cleverist would come up with.
stjohn_piano_2 is reading http://edgecase.net/articles/basic_gpg_commands to try to use GPG the normal way to decrypt the otp.
stjohn_piano_2: i have not implemented a javascript select thing yet.
mp_en_viaje: wait, that is your actual name ?!
stjohn_piano_2: mp_en_viaje: my name is actually StJohn Piano. my brother's name is Nicholas Piano. the company is just me.
mp_en_viaje: so is it you and a friend made a company and you call each other piano-something and the company is edgecase ?
stjohn_piano_2: mp_en_viaje: the name of the company
mp_en_viaje: stjohn_piano_2, so why "If Edgecase cannot answer your question, Edgecase will probably be able to suggest some potential avenues of exploration." ? wtf is an edgecase then
asciilifeform: seems like that part worx
a111: Logged on 2019-05-16 17:34 mp_en_viaje: if soemthing you should do can be accomplished in one hand motion, you'll do it a lot easier than if you have to first curtsy and then proceed. and a curtsy can be anything -- including having to remember the name of a script.
stjohn_piano_2: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-16#1913808 << have learned this painfully, yes. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-05-16 16:55 asciilifeform: !!rate stjohn_piano_2 1 temp voice / new blood
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, aha, and how linux ended up with the lulzy util names. and so on
stjohn_piano_2: asciilifeform: diffing the output of pgpdump -i [key] and pgpdump -i [deedbotkey] shows no difference.
mp_en_viaje: one sure as fuck loves writing when the path from idea to published article is an hour or so.
mp_en_viaje: all sorts of unexpected things improve productivity, and the thing with improved productivity is that it's a very hard exponential -- cutting yet another 1% dead weight produces massive gains because it lowers effort under pleasure threshold. ☟︎
mp_en_viaje: if soemthing you should do can be accomplished in one hand motion, you'll do it a lot easier than if you have to first curtsy and then proceed. and a curtsy can be anything -- including having to remember the name of a script. ☟︎
mp_en_viaje: anyway, to belabour the point : there is immense value in having low barriers. part of why trilema is so great is all the time i put into making it very easy for myself to write on/for it. and my life in general is very finely tuned by this principle.
stjohn_piano_2: transactions for timestamping is a bonus.
a111: Logged on 2019-05-16 17:28 mp_en_viaje: umm. why the fuck would anyone. then whine about rsi ? how about not waste your time doing machine works.
stjohn_piano_2: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-16#1913785 << well, i had time to think. wanted to understand transactions, and by doing so achieve airgapped bitcoin storage. ☝︎
stjohn_piano_2: mp_en_viaje: certainly. i'm not certain that i knew about xxd at the time.
mp_en_viaje: because if i had a criticism to present toyou re your (in many ways quite laudable) efforts -- it'd be this scratching around head with wrong hand approach to life.
mp_en_viaje: stjohn_piano_2, so do you see something wrong with having an article about a script that does |xxd ?
asciilifeform: the tx i mean
a111: Logged on 2019-05-16 17:27 mp_en_viaje: http://edgecase.net/articles/displaying_hex_bytes_for_manual_copying << is this exactly what i did in http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-16#1913584 ?!
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, what's the sense in airgapping published material ?
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: i'ma guess he's trying to 'airgap' but with no slave typists
mp_en_viaje is currently quite satisfied with the trilema/rss > irc > archive.is system of archival. for one thing, on very rare occasions i will retrofix a typo or something. for the other, if i actually wanted to deed each trilema article i would, but by automating that itnerface. seems overkill atm.
mp_en_viaje: umm. why the fuck would anyone. then whine about rsi ? how about not waste your time doing machine works. ☟︎
stjohn_piano_2: uploaded to one of the various broadcast places.
stjohn_piano_2: hand-crafted transactions.
mp_en_viaje: so i take it the pissing into blockchain of article checksum is automated ? or you do it by hand on some level ?
stjohn_piano_2: asciilifeform: i did not. thanks.
stjohn_piano_2: you wrote an article once about parsimony vs efficiency, i think. ☟︎
mp_en_viaje: http://edgecase.net/articles/displaying_hex_bytes_for_manual_copying << is this exactly what i did in http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-16#1913584 ?! ☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2019-05-16 17:20 mp_en_viaje: http://edgecase.net/articles/checkpoint_8 << what;s this ?
asciilifeform: stjohn_piano_2: didja notice that output of http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-16#1913740 is a eggog ? ☝︎
mp_en_viaje: and it's worth your time to do this by yourself rather than actually use deedbot because why ? tryina learn how shit works ?
stjohn_piano_2: checkpoint articles are hashed and made into bitcoin addresses. some bitcoin is transferred to this address, much like deedbot.
BingoBoingo: mp_en_viaje: In practice it seems so. Neither the reds nor the blues have a monopoly on the mud hut deindustrialists.
mp_en_viaje: ok, but "consulting services" means nothing and secure publication's what qntra already exists for ? why would i use your thing ?
stjohn_piano_2: i have not spent the time to go through the pieces manually.
stjohn_piano_2: i mean, i understand the idea.
asciilifeform: stjohn_piano_2: this is actually 1st time anyone wrote in and said 'i tried but not understood'. plz feel free to leave comments re what did not understand.
stjohn_piano_2: asciilifeform: yes, although i have not been able to understand it.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-22 19:36 mircea_popescu: which, amusingly, makes the jesus pantsuits ACTUALLY MORE PROGRESSIVE than the new yorker crowd.
a111: Logged on 2019-05-16 17:10 BingoBoingo: <mp_en_viaje> fwiw, we could note the dispute is strictly internal socialist dispute, the ultra-reds "terroristed" the moderate-blue group. << Guy claimed to be a "green" fwiw
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-16#1913697 << yes, but there;s no such thin gas green. there's red-socialist as in http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-22#1702376 and then the blue socialists as in clinton-dnc ☝︎☝︎
asciilifeform: 'Nicholas Piano: It needs to be something that proves someone's worth beyond a doubt. Imagine we treated programmer failure like the death of a patient in surgery. Think of a system tested so completely that every possible use case has been accounted for. Perhaps an air traffic control simulation ...'
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: re gpg, seems like he reimplemented the mechanism in orig v
stjohn_piano_2: mp_en_viaje: first thing i bumped into that solved my problem.
mp_en_viaje: stjohn_piano_2, but why the heck would you use digital ocean.
mp_en_viaje: http://edgecase.net/articles/gpg_1410_stateless_operations << this sounds a lot like what ben_vulpes was doing at some point iirc.
a111: Logged on 2019-05-16 17:18 mp_en_viaje: http://edgecase.net/articles/conversation_programmer_licences << what's the weird here ? a) wrt to a buncha people calling themselves x piano ; b) wrt to hand-publishing what's eminently a chatlog, as such ? why not use a logger and only publish selected snippets that need notes and such ?
a111: Logged on 2014-09-22 04:33 asciilifeform: switching caps lock and ctrl << 'Emacs actually comes with a builting Emacs Aptitude Test. Do you remap your keyboard or the Emacs keybindings before the chords and sequences it comes with by default have wreaked havoc with your hands? If you do not do anything to make Emacs more convenient for yourself, you may not have the prerequisite aptitude to use it productive.' (naggum, who else. http://www.xach.com/na
mp_en_viaje: http://edgecase.net/articles/checkpoint_8 << what;s this ? ☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: hand mutilation from misconfigged kbd, typically
stjohn_piano_2: repetitive strain injury. too much typing, causes muscle buildup.
stjohn_piano_2: asciilifeform: will eventually switch over to v, yes.
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, apparently he implemented ye olde trilema credits thing..
mp_en_viaje: http://edgecase.net/articles/conversation_programmer_licences << what's the weird here ? a) wrt to a buncha people calling themselves x piano ; b) wrt to hand-publishing what's eminently a chatlog, as such ? why not use a logger and only publish selected snippets that need notes and such ? ☟︎☟︎
stjohn_piano_2: asciilifeform: a long time.
stjohn_piano_2: manage_ip_addresses is a small interface for the paywall ip addresses. it's a thrown-together paywall, not fantastic, but functional.
asciilifeform: stjohn_piano_2: how long, approx, have you been eating the logs ?
stjohn_piano_2: mp_en_viaje: no, just haven't got to it yet.
stjohn_piano_2 is learning pgpdump in the background, btw
mp_en_viaje: http://edgecase.net/tools/manage_ip_addresses << what;s this do ?
stjohn_piano_2: except that the signature is wrapped and embedded at the end of the text article.
asciilifeform: loox like stjohn_piano_2 built/attempted to build a 'display these pgp-signed .txt with html sugar' mechanism ?
mp_en_viaje: http://edgecase.net/pages/edgecase_datafeed << http://edgecase.net/articles/contract_0 what is this nonsense tho ? what's "This article has been digitally signed by Edgecase Datafeed." even mean ?!
stjohn_piano_2: the original items can be downloaded via the "Download this article" link.
stjohn_piano_2: it's an html rendering / presentation of a series of text articles.
mp_en_viaje: so this is a python blog thing ?
mp_en_viaje: you have to understand, you can't ~anachronize~ ; you gotta explain how it makes sense in time-bound context. otherwise yes forever it'll be the case "past makes sense, present does not"
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, i tell you i don't see it.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: consider diff b/w 'im'a go pirate on the high seas, take spanish gold' vs 'i'ma pray for gold to fall from sky', is the contemplated diff.
mp_en_viaje: iirc people were looking for some more themes
mp_en_viaje: stjohn_piano_2, why not make a mp-wp tree patch then ?
stjohn_piano_2: i studied trilema's layout.
asciilifeform: stjohn_piano_2: diff the pgpdump -i output of the two pubkeys.
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, and how does the "let's kill the only people who know wtf is going on" make sense ?
stjohn_piano_2: asciilifeform: gpg --list-packets shows that the key ID is C8EFFF13 in the OTP file. The key ID of my public key is 5991 52AC. Is this expected? (the fingerprint shown by deedbot in the earlier line is correct, though). ☟︎
BingoBoingo: <mp_en_viaje> fwiw, we could note the dispute is strictly internal socialist dispute, the ultra-reds "terroristed" the moderate-blue group. << Guy claimed to be a "green" fwiw ☟︎
mp_en_viaje: cuz to me teh similarity's striking.