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BingoBoingo: Now kkksh far more standards compliant or at least more deterministic where it isn't
whaack: fwiw if I connect to only your "trusted nodes" list I connect but don't get back any resposes from asktxn requests etc. (assuming "askfor tx xxxx 0" in debug.log means the request returned nothing)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform actually the mempool-node and the blockchain-node split is pretty evident and definitely necessary. they got spit-glued together because well, early on in the prototyping phase people didn't know what's the engine and what's gonna be the carriage so just made one ball of everything.
trinque: ben_vulpes: I don't think it got in before other vpatches changed the antecedents
ben_vulpes: phf: why doesn't funkenstein's privkey tool patch show up on the patch graph?
asciilifeform: ( i could even see an argument that, e.g., rawtx eater doesn't belong in trb , and that tx ought to be injected via the ordinary tcp method. but i dun recall having this argument )
whaack: alright I'll get more ram on my machine then. that being said you don't imagine this would be a reason for it to stall for 24hrs on a single block?
asciilifeform: $ od -N 32 -An -t x1 -v /dev/zero | tr -d " \n" | ./lamport_encode.sh privkey.txt | ./lamport_decode.sh sha256sum pubkey.txt
thestringpuller: "If anything, having nice things on credit is not a bad strategy if you never paid the bills really and someone took losses instead" << US Millennials really believe this while riding around in a used BMW they technically don't own.
asciilifeform: $ od -N 32 -An -t x1 -v /dev/zero | tr -d " \n" | ./lamport_encode.sh privkey.txt | ./lamport_decode.sh sha256sum pubkey.txt
mircea_popescu: Mariono you encrypted it. don't encrypt it.
asciilifeform: $ od -N 32 -An -t x1 /dev/zero | tr -d " \n"
asciilifeform: $ od -N 32 -An -t x1 /dev/urandom | tr -d " \n"
asciilifeform: aha, it is why you won't find a 'sh' tarball in, e.g., your gentoo's /usr/portage/distfiles.
phf: sh (bourne shell) is almost never actually deployed on systems anymore. when people say "sh" they usually mean "posix compliant subset of shell language that was once implemented as sh, and now written into the standard". on linux sh is bash in compatability mode, on bsd sh is ksh also in compatability mode. fwiw busybox supports posix sh, but doesn't have bash
asciilifeform: also i can't say that i am especially at this point interested in attempts at unix sanitation.
mircea_popescu: no, seriously, i should like to see a case of historical snake oil that DIDN'T fit that bill. all the way to wja bailey's "radium is restoring health to thousands" radithor
mircea_popescu: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160929/#167 << " If it performs as advertised it isn't snakeoil, even if its limitations makes it useless for your own usecase" i lolled.
mircea_popescu: never gives up, tries again, "revolution", "progress", it's the lulz of all time. to think all this running away, running in circles, chasing of tail etc is simply the devil trying to somehow, hopefully, beyond all hope escape the fact that there really isn't any room for it here.
mircea_popescu: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160929/#163 << it's really the ideal crypto surogate as far as usg is concerned. chumps can't see each other through the walls of the star pattern ; usg can see all.
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-29: [14:48:10] <shinohai> (warning, lot's of I couldn't break Bitcoin butthurt in there)
a111: Logged on 2015-04-02 14:58 asciilifeform: 'Boneh, in joint work with Matt Franklin, constructed a novel pairing-based method for identity-based encryption (IBE), whereby a user's public identity, such as an email address, can function as the user's public key. Since then, Boneh's contributions, together with those of others, have shown the power and versatility of pairings, which are now used as a mainstream tool in cryptography. The transfer of pairings from theory t
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-29#1550160 << lulzily enough, the fact that it is physically impossible to generate a ~private~ privatekey from a public string... didn't stop usg from trying! see old thread, http://btcbase.org/log/2015-04-02#1084135 ☝︎☝︎
shinohai: (warning, lot's of I couldn't break Bitcoin butthurt in there)
adlai: it should be ~unique each time you run the rng, but if your 'entropy' source is a piece of data (public key), doesn't your rng turn into a p-rng?
adlai: ok, but i still don't understand the rest of that line.
a111: Logged on 2016-09-27 16:39 mircea_popescu: this doesn't matter so much, future cryptosystem will be made on the basis of rng ; rng can work with pubkey as entropy source.
BingoBoingo: I haven't even seen that
mircea_popescu: anyway, wouldn't it be nice if /patches/ includes a list of all heads ?
scriba: Exception: ['utf-8' codec can't decode byte 0xc3 in position 1488: invalid continuation byte]
scriba: Exception: ['utf-8' codec can't decode byte 0xc3 in position 1488: invalid continuation byte]
phf: i don't think classic supports nesting (default does though)
ben_vulpes: possibly the template doesn't support it?
ben_vulpes: checkbox schmeckbox, nesting doesn't appear to be working
ben_vulpes: i don't know what you mean by embedded replies
diana_coman: it doesn't strike me as specifically eu per se
pete_dushenski: lol! and yet this doesn't strike you as surgical mengelism ?
pete_dushenski: iirc i drove through pranvezys on the road back from vilnius to riga but didn't really stop. spent a bit more time in klaipeda and area
pete_dushenski: like most second-biggest cities, kaunus also doesn't feel overly polished, uberglitzed, and overrun with tour busses the way vilnius or riga do
diana_coman: since Lithuania managed to end up in the interesting position of having 2 (at least, I did not even check if it doesn't have more than that) airports and no airline, Ryanair were the only ones to fly directly there
diana_coman: ldn't be surprised if they added meanwhile some "Oxygen fee")
asciilifeform: many folks would rather go to african doctor than american. and i can't blame'em.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu quite likely knows that they ain't phreeee in usa
ben_vulpes: relatedly, why hasn't that org shattered its brand yet?
mircea_popescu: well, if you don't use windows, there's ~no minimum specs, i've had it run on ten year old laptops. if you do use windows it's unclear as of yet, some people have had problems but seems to be on random hardware
asciilifeform: ain't nuffin' wrong with that.
asciilifeform: dunno, let's say you didn't enjoy animal training.
mircea_popescu: and why wouldn't i ?
mircea_popescu: shinohai doesn't it though!
mircea_popescu: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160928/#100 << for the record i fail to see the problem in the quoted fragment ; and can't be arsed to go read the whole thing. anyone wishes to explain what the problem is ?
mircea_popescu: yes, but anything that isn't luxury is, today unlike the days of the su, ersatz.
thestringpuller: or you stop so you don't fucking die, like when no light exist i.e. lightning storm
mircea_popescu: yes it's a calender, ie keeps the pasta in. but if you dump it in the sewer, don't expect you'll fish it out later and contents edible.
mircea_popescu: what, us banks don't have azn branches ?
mircea_popescu: cattle couldn't have done that independently well enough. needed collective ostrich built.
Framedragger: but maybe didn't try hard enough, because, you know, i could just walk in later
Framedragger: didn't even have time to investigate, honestly not sure if worth it, reported bank details to banks in question as per process, but that's about it
mircea_popescu: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160928/#39 << for the record, i didn't even know that was a thing.
ben_vulpes: i can't them
asciilifeform: so the notion isn't wholly nonsensical.
mircea_popescu: maybe it... wasn't about teh daughter ?
ben_vulpes: my aren't we having/the bestest of fun
asciilifeform: lel those ain't worth, outside of numismatic few u.s. cent/each, no more.
asciilifeform: 'sorry i couldn't hear your pong in time, frogs were croaking too much'
mircea_popescu: man who is married to a place he can't defend was already pretty disturbed.
mircea_popescu: think about all the advantages : a cubical rocket doesn't need to be steered as much.
mircea_popescu: seeing the success of the littoral beercan program, i'm vaguely surprised the usg doesn't bless its doomed effort of catching up with china/russia with cubical rockets.
ben_vulpes: "dear elon, why won't you hire foreign nationals"
trinque: derp, I didn't upload the key, so of course the second one didn't work
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i don't require that len(h(x)) < len(x).
asciilifeform: didn't we just 'it doesn't solve same problem' ??
mircea_popescu: still, i wouldn't say these differences allow for a strict determination.
asciilifeform: but it isn't, because you signed H(S), the genuine S, with K, at time T
asciilifeform: it still doesn't link back to K.
asciilifeform: so, for convenience, i'll reprint: 1) at time T, i publish Ksign(H(S)), where S is a lengthy random string; at time T1, when i wish to invoke the continuity i publish H(S+J) ; at time T2: J; at time T3, S.
mircea_popescu: i don't. the point is to prove K-J continuity , not to retain sole control of J
asciilifeform: recall, we don't know anything about the cryptosystem J is a pubkey for.
mircea_popescu: t1 : i make rsa key K ; don't share it with anyone. i publish hash(salt+pubkey.K)
mircea_popescu: this doesn't matter so much, future cryptosystem will be made on the basis of rng ; rng can work with pubkey as entropy source. ☟︎
shinohai: Weird why he hasn't been seen yet, his key imported to keyserver
asciilifeform: where you demonstrate that you knew Kpriv and a secret S at time T, and at some time T+i you show that 'he who knew S at time T now wishes to use key J for everyday life.'
asciilifeform: if K is broken publicly, or privately by the enemy, any time ~after~ T, the breaker (or anyone who learns the privkey) can try to endeedbot his own Ksign(H(S)) for his own S
asciilifeform: at time T, i deedbot Ksign(H(S)), where S is a lengthy random string.
mircea_popescu: but yeah, mutual masturbation with phuctor not a bad idea, if it can be done somehow so it doesn't make the ensemble more friable.
asciilifeform: it isn't decentralized by any means, though, boring old medieval central box.
mircea_popescu: wasn't obvious at all, i spent an hour this morning wading through pseudoscience swamp because of you!
mircea_popescu: so it wouldn't stretch the bounds of the plausible if the nazis had an early, low efficiency, fusor-like thing ; which would have been no larger than a doberman ; and so isn't related to either some random polish dude's fantasies of "my village is special - look, that mountainside, is where thor sat down!" or whatever argentina landing bills.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform any idea why it would be that fucking big ? you don't really gain much by making the outer cage 3 meters wide.
mircea_popescu: it doesn't seem likely the device they might have built would have killed much of anyone ; moreover the story of "fatalties" is how pubescent males always tend to lend a shrowd of cool to their fantasious fabrications.
mircea_popescu: anyway. yes it wouldn't stretch the bounds of the plausible, seeing how eg tesla was dicking around with high electrostatic potentials for his principal entertainment.
mircea_popescu: also, the effects described aren't quite what neutron beams do.
mircea_popescu: so which part of the nonsense is part of your accepted reconstruction ? i don't imagine sponeaneous margerinization of plant matter for a 150 to 200 m radius makes it in?
BingoBoingo: Well its the blub thing. They don't grok the more srs bsns.
BingoBoingo: Some bipeds don't know how to budget, yet still try to business. Very sick fact, but fact.
mircea_popescu: dude if the company can't afford to ferry some women to the designated fuckbeach it should be rolled up anyway.
mircea_popescu: she ain't got a latrine pig's prayer in the latrine, alfie.
mircea_popescu: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160927/#14 << even better when they ~haven't~
trinque went to a school like that in FL, broke one of their noses, didn't have any problems
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: Eh the gopher has some drink named after him, and the drink isn't cool enough to have booze. The refugee shut people up about the two aspects of Clinton for nearly a day.
mircea_popescu: move in a sugar cube why don't you.