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ben_vulpes: clearly you need more to do
phf: select thing is still vaguely broken though
ben_vulpes: hey phf this btcbase thing would rule with anchored line numbers on patches
ben_vulpes: aha i assumed, just thought it funny how quickly that number got bigger and by how much
phf: after application, run with -swank in addition to all the other shiva args, and connecting to the shiva port with slime-connect should work mircles
phf: big buffer ensures i can send big function over wire and tinyscheme doesn't barf
ben_vulpes: heheheh strbuffsize goes from 256 to 2048
ben_vulpes: heavens to betsy
phf: yeah no reason why it wouldn't work from there..
ben_vulpes: lemme see if it shits to disk
assbot: Logged on 28-02-2016 03:38:49; phf: 1) brew install cmake 2) patch < foo.patch 3) link_directories and include_directories in CMakeList.txt need to point to be modified to point to your boost/db4/openssl locations 4) mkdir foo; cd foo; cmake ..; make
phf: i don't imagine it matters at the moment, can always shuffle things ☟︎
ben_vulpes: phf, asciilifeform: where is an appropriate place for custom trb scheme, and what mechanism should load it? just appending to the bottom of init.scm feels wrong.
ben_vulpes: phf: and in the c function declarations?
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: is it inane of me to ask about hyphen/underscore conventions in shiva.cpp?
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: okok! point taken.
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asciilifeform: it is to be amputated ~whole~. no motherfucking stumps. ☟︎☟︎
assbot: Logged on 28-02-2016 05:38:28; phf: asciilifeform: i think he's looking for a way to slice scheme into an arbitrary part of bitcoind, like CInv inv = scheme_apply('inv-process', cons(...));, unless i'm mistaken, but seems confirmed later in log
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-02-2016#1417169 << this is utterly, screamingly ugly and i will sign no part of it. ☝︎
phf: asciilifeform: i think he's looking for a way to slice scheme into an arbitrary part of bitcoind, like CInv inv = scheme_apply('inv-process', cons(...));, unless i'm mistaken, but seems confirmed later in log ☟︎
assbot: Logged on 28-02-2016 02:14:54; ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: what's the thinking behind using IMPLEMENT_RANDOMIZE_STACK in shiva.cpp?
assbot: Logged on 28-02-2016 02:49:59; ben_vulpes: asciilifeform (phf, adlai, mod6_, mod6): okay this is grand and i can see several rpc commands trivially slain in this vein, and others with application of work. but but but! would someone send me a map for running /scheme/ code from within satoshis abortion?
asciilifeform: phf: tx debugger
phf: oh i meant, what was the entirely other reason?
assbot: Logged on 28-02-2016 03:15:29; BingoBoingo: From Google Transgrish: "Due to hardware accelerators supporting GOST 28147-89, processors "Baikal-T1" have certified compatibility with software and hardware encryption tools. At present the work as part of AWS "Meadowsweet terminal" preparing several Russian means of information protection. The company develops InfoTeKS for "Tavolgi" customized solution based on the constructor protected ViPNet networ
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-02-2016#1417106 << BingoBoingo you can buy the usg version of this idocy right now. eager ? ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 28-02-2016 04:08:36; mircea_popescu: phf> i think ascii short term plan is specifically rewrite of rpc, because it's an easily achievable low hanging fruit, which when done completely will let us get rid of json/http << quite.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-02-2016#1417141 << i actually wrote it for entirely other reason but only made it public because mircea_popescu suggested curing the rpc retardation ☝︎
asciilifeform: incidentally, what kind of sense does it make for arsebot to lose everybody's session when it dies ?
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mircea_popescu: phf> i think ascii short term plan is specifically rewrite of rpc, because it's an easily achievable low hanging fruit, which when done completely will let us get rid of json/http << quite. ☟︎
phf: i'm going to have some kefir and decompress from the day
ben_vulpes: i'm off to waft the child through hipstergenic clouds of pot smoke
ben_vulpes: anyways, rather neet. looking forward to shortening my loop up.
phf: well, after my eulora travails i can trivially build anything on mac os x with homebrew (thanks mp!), in this case there's not even a need to fuck around since b-a approved versions of dependencies have brew formulas for them
ben_vulpes: yeah i imagined that running buildroot wouldn't make sense on a bsdalike
phf: 1) brew install cmake 2) patch < foo.patch 3) link_directories and include_directories in CMakeList.txt need to point to be modified to point to your boost/db4/openssl locations 4) mkdir foo; cd foo; cmake ..; make ☟︎
phf: but then i also tend to overthink things, for all i know there's a perfectly trivial solution to all things
phf: also the whole thing is not thread safe...
ben_vulpes: okay i'll leave that and the slime work to the real artisans
phf: i think ascii short term plan is specifically rewrite of rpc, because it's an easily achievable low hanging fruit, which when done completely will let us get rid of json/http
phf: which requires a better understanding of how ts's stack work, or perhaps figuring out how to make multiple scheme instances share same oblist or something
phf: ben_vulpes: in order to support any sort of rewrite of existing code, need to figure out how to have scheme runtime created at bitcoind start and that runtime allowing for reentry
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BingoBoingo: From Google Transgrish: "Due to hardware accelerators supporting GOST 28147-89, processors "Baikal-T1" have certified compatibility with software and hardware encryption tools. At present the work as part of AWS "Meadowsweet terminal" preparing several Russian means of information protection. The company develops InfoTeKS for "Tavolgi" customized solution based on the constructor protected ViPNet network, designed for the safe ope ☟︎
phf: ben_vulpes: so the way thing works right now, is that when you connect a new instance of scheme runtime is created, which is then fed init.scm and connected to the network stream fd. right now the pattern that we have is from inside a running instance you can call out into trb and make it do things
mircea_popescu: there's the box, and there's the chess.
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell trinque BEHOLD http://www.businessinsider.com/meta-glasses-could-be-future-of-work-2016-2?r=DE&IR=T
ben_vulpes: phf: mebbe rewrite the syncing loop?
ben_vulpes afk for a bit, if not the eve
phf: ben_vulpes: depends on what you're trying to do
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo i guess i'm just going to add "this is good for fiat" comments from now on.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform (phf, adlai, mod6_, mod6): okay this is grand and i can see several rpc commands trivially slain in this vein, and others with application of work. but but but! would someone send me a map for running /scheme/ code from within satoshis abortion? ☟︎
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BingoBoingo: http://qntra.net/2016/02/2015-irs-breach-estimate-revised-upwards-to-720000-records/ << Pls to confirm I used the correct Bre(a/e)ch
ben_vulpes: i thought we considered that glass left on the floor for barefoot burglars
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: what's the thinking behind using IMPLEMENT_RANDOMIZE_STACK in shiva.cpp? ☟︎
mircea_popescu: lol. may be a long while, eulora took the crown for "most broken republican codebase" sometime this year i think
BingoBoingo: Maybe point him at TRB documentation after he's done fixing Eulora?
mircea_popescu: guy's actually pretty good, found/fixed small cracks in the wiki etc
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Seriously though it is far more refreshing than YAJE, Yet Another Jackoffscript Evangelist
ben_vulpes: quite the netsplit.
ben_vulpes: satoshi bless the noobs, for they bring lulz and drama.
phf: knuth actually made a version with working crosslinks and table of contents and such, but those cost as much as the printed version and are "personalized". i take it nobody bothered getting rid of watermark and publishing it, or i can't find a copy anyway
phf: i'd like to read knuth chapters for a bit, but aocp warez is surprisingly awful. torrents of pdf scans without table of contents (!!!) and people in comments going "thanks for most useful books evaa!!!". does anybody actually tried using this shit?
phf: current take is naive, uses a list of digits for presentation and a mul/shift/add approach to multiplication. mostly a poc
ben_vulpes: ^^ nifty, asciilifeform! thanks for bearing with my thickness.
ben_vulpes: have fun in meatspace, i'll derp through it.
asciilifeform: 0.5.3 cutter had to chicken.
asciilifeform: same rel to shiva as
asciilifeform: i will explain, hopefully for the last time,
ben_vulpes: should have communicated to me that 201 did not supercede 198
ben_vulpes: Apply the pedigree bridge path, re-name the directory to shiva, and you get
assbot: [BTC-dev] Tinyscheme Genesis, Cleanup, and Fixes, CORRECTED; -and- Shiva Pedigree Bridge. ... ( http://bit.ly/1SfJl8P )
asciilifeform: where is this?
ben_vulpes: was i not to interpret "rebake using the correct v-tron" as "supercedes previous missive"?
asciilifeform off to meatspace for a spell.
ben_vulpes: thank you for the very explicit directions, asciilifeform .
asciilifeform: 1) press a trb
asciilifeform: leave tinyscheme genesis alone.
asciilifeform: then the bugfix.
ben_vulpes: so to recap: tinyscheme_genesis, tinyscheme_snip, repl_fix, and then flag_bug_fix?
assbot: Logged on 21-02-2016 00:38:02; asciilifeform: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2016-January/000201.html << this and this only.
assbot: Logged on 21-02-2016 00:37:21; phf: i can't figure out which patches are actually shiva patches. there's "(EXPERIMENTAL) Introducing: Shiva." and then sometime after there's "Tinyscheme Genesis, Cleanup, and Fixes, CORRECTED; -and- Shiva Pedigree Bridge."
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=21-02-2016#1411369 << i am failing to turn this thread into usable actions ☝︎
asciilifeform: PLEASE stop trying to press shiva from tinyscheme-bridge folks !!!!11
ben_vulpes: so i should be able to leave the tinyscheme dir as tinyscheme? or am i screwing up royally in that my patch applications don't result in a shiva dir?
asciilifeform: so that this kind of confusion can go away.
asciilifeform: when we get a turingcomplete vtron, i will regrind all of my works
asciilifeform: normally you ought to use the shiva i posted and its bugfix.
asciilifeform: (there is no actual reason to do this more than once per lifetime)
assbot: Logged on 27-02-2016 20:40:43; ben_vulpes: tinyscheme still needs renaming to shiva, correct?
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-02-2016#1416966 << only if you really wantvto build from the pedigree bridge ☝︎
assbot: [BTC-dev] Tinyscheme Genesis, Cleanup, and Fixes, CORRECTED; -and- Shiva Pedigree Bridge. ... ( http://bit.ly/1SfJl8P )
ben_vulpes: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2016-January/000201.html << press genesis_fixed, tinyscheme_snip, repl_fix, rename tinyscheme to shiva, recompile yes? asciilifeform phf ^^
ben_vulpes: tinyscheme still needs renaming to shiva, correct? ☟︎
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: d'you have a minute to answer shiva questions?
BingoBoingo: Or... You get them rather soon-ish