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assbot: Logged on 29-02-2016 06:24:02; BingoBoingo: Wait, you don't drink it all by
the pot?
phf: that must be right because
that's when asciilifeform published
the mpex review, so i must've been reading mp since
then, but ben_vulpes renamed himself quite recently
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> not all, ben_vulpes was here before me. << iirc benkay you and myself were part of
the 2013 #b-a cohort
phf: my current goal is
to have better compartmentalization, like have a gaming machine (i.e. libretto running dos, i've been unwinding with ~~'95 games), a work machine (i.e. a
thing
that can run intellij and which is compromised for all
the practical purposes) and a b-a machine whatever
that evolves into, because i don't
think
the future of a computer as a progrock moog station is panning out
phf: i
think he renamed himself during my 6 months
phf: but anyway, chuck moore probably has clean kitchen and
terry davis :p
phf: ah, i
think
that's from before i was paying close attention
to logs
phf: probably all
the common lispers
phf: i found my way here
to begin with because i was following your loperos project and your conclusions were
then correct, only
to be re-confirmed as part of b-a research
phf: asciilifeform: i guess i can't seem
to find a baseline
that doesn't suck in all kinds of obvious and non-obvious ways. for all practical purposes i operate out of a semipublic
terminal
that i don't own. various attempts
to establish non-superficial ownership were unsuccessful for reasons amply discussed here
ben_vulpes: at mp's prompting i added a plastic handheld
thing
to
the shower
ben_vulpes: sheesh
this is like when i moved
to new york and people were astonished
to learn
that
there's electricity west of
the rockies
jurov: As long as you use
the proper hand for each.
ben_vulpes shits in sink, eats from
toilet bowl, never knew
to do anything else before 2013
☟︎ jurov: that it's good
thing
to dream about :)
phf: it's got some other niceties, like a db integration, where it introspects into
the scheme and
then does static analysis on your sql code, including sql code
that's inline somewhere in python
phf: it does
things for you, autoimports, large scale refactoring, working jump
to/from functionality
phf: nah, actually use it for day
to day development
phf: i was hoping
to get intellij idea running on
that
BingoBoingo: <trinque> it doesn't run linux binaries, which would preclude buildroot, wouldn't it? << Last week Openbsd killed linux_compat on i386 which is
the last platform
they supported it on
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> << quite psychanalizable, ftr. notice
the spurt of "make x great again" ever since 2015 or so. << It's a
Trump slogan,
that's why it went meme
assbot: Logged on 29-02-2016 21:41:44; phf: i'm
though confused, i
thought buildroot is explicitly a cross-compilation mechanism?
ben_vulpes: sure as hell beats drinking
the horror at my own existence away
assbot: Logged on 27-02-2016 20:00:05; asciilifeform: in
this particular case, why offspring
ben_vulpes: > verify with
text message (most secure)
phf: In order
to achieve
this, Buildroot is able
to generate a cross-compilation
toolchain, a root filesystem, a Linux kernel image and a bootloader for your
target."
phf: "Buildroot is a
tool
that simplifies and automates
the process of building a complete Linux system for an embedded system, using cross-compilation.
phf: i'm
though confused, i
thought buildroot is explicitly a cross-compilation mechanism?
☟︎ phf: once i do can probably produce buildroot for mac os x
too
phf: i
think i wanted
to figure out how
to package openssl/db/boost as buildroot native packages, rather
then doing adhoc, which is a
task in itself
phf: asciilifeform:
there's no rotor
trinque: could just
target one of
those and results should be
the same on same arch
trinque: in openbsd's case
the operating system's version number refers
to an entire base system
trinque: heh, I'll have
to
try running my emacs env on your brick sometime
trinque: whether
that's due
to it being a less prevalent
target, I do not know.
trinque: it seems
to have done pretty well across
the board
trinque: actually most of
the remote code execution exploits in recent OpenBSD were
the fault of X
trinque: tbh bitching about
the openbsd ports
tree is a matter of having missed
the point; pester
the maintainer or become him if you want something changed.
trinque: and obviously
the hardware's all rotten
too; I get
that, but
that's not an argument in favor of linux.
☟︎ trinque: I personally would far sooner deal with a shitty package management system
than a swiss cheese kernel
trinque: worth mentioning
too
that one's referring
to an entire *usable* operating system and
the other
to only a kernel
trinque: decent as a learning
tool and not much else.
phf: i
think
the "advanced user" workflow is
to pick up genkernel config, menuconfig it, put
the config back into genkernel, recompile
mircea_popescu: motherfucker,
there's some ad on his page
that blocks
the loading.
mircea_popescu: but at any rate, notice how
the "worldwide peace" movement seamlessly morphed into
the "antiatomic movement" seamlessly morphed into
the "ecology" movement.
mircea_popescu: so what if it does ? more varied
tail for
the lot of
them!
mircea_popescu: hence why
the meanwhile-barbarianized new yorkers couldn't care less if
the nuke plant blows.
mircea_popescu: ~CARING~ about
the otherwise irrelevant item is ALSO rare and costly and difficult
to produce. moreso
than a battleship.
mircea_popescu: fortunately, it is not MERELY
the atomic bomb
that is rare and costly and as difficult
to produce as a battleship.
assbot: Logged on 15-11-2014 07:02:37; asciilifeform: 'Had
the atomic bomb
turned out
to be something as cheap and easily manufactured as a bicycle or an alarm clock, it might well have plunged us back into barbarism, but it might, on
the other hand, have meant
the end of national sovereignty and of
the highly-centralised police state. If, as seems
to be
the case, it is a rare and costly object as difficult
to produce as a battleship, it is likelier
to p
mircea_popescu: "in clar" also denotes plaintext, ie, immediately accessible. no need
to explain and mediate
their carcass into being, as it were.
mircea_popescu: literally, "thus
therefore, i don't see
them
to clearly", but
that "not see clearly" really means, "it won't end up well for
them". sort-of like prophet not seeing your future
too clearly.
mircea_popescu: as
the romanian expression goes, "apai atunci nu-i prea vad in clar"