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danielpbarron: still had a little left for my great purge when i burned the contents of my drug box as well as some eastern philosophy texts and my karate uniform
shinohai: lsd usually inspires clarity of thought and creativity tho.
asciilifeform doesn't expect to get to eat lsd in his natural lifespam, just as doesn't expect a real tailored suit or to sail on a dirigible ☟︎
danielpbarron once had a 'vial' of the stuff; used it to put drops on sugar cubes, eat and go for bike ride in the summer
asciilifeform: shinohai: possibly he thought this also, and ate some ? and during it, suggested prb ...? ☟︎
shinohai: mircea_popescu is under stress lately perhaps and needs a nice lsd trip to put things in perspective :D
asciilifeform: it melted my brain that he even half-seriously hinted at the possibility of such a thing. ☟︎
assbot: Logged on 10-03-2016 10:43:06; mircea_popescu: in other news - it still remains likely that this summer will see a bevy of various hardforks on offer. practically speaking, trb can offer either its own candidate, which takes a lot of work, or else sit tight and we'll follow the more intelligent of the avaialble offerings, which takes less work but also implies a lot of risk - experience to date shows that there's precious little intelligence avai
shinohai: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-03-2016#1428461 <<< this? ☝︎
asciilifeform: jurov: it is for working on trb !
asciilifeform: anybody who wants to surrender, can go and do it without me.
shinohai: As I told mod6 I do not advocate surrender myself :/
asciilifeform: i will repeat, i have NO interest in any 'bitcoin replacement' originating from outside of the wot.
asciilifeform: so if you lot end up surrendering, i will simply have to add 'bitcoin replacement' to my already tall pile of 'redo computing' pyramid, slowly grind it in my mostly nonexisting spare time, and wait another 20 years to find a new set of sane people, if i live that long. ☟︎
asciilifeform: it would, i suspect, take me 1/2 y to 1y of UNINTERRUPTED full time to come up with the goods. which pointedly isn't in any danger of happening.
asciilifeform: (i loathe ada, but this needs a BOUNDS-CHECKED language where i can AUDIT THE BINARY and NO RUNTIME COMPONENT / GC - which leaves exactly ONE)
asciilifeform: i am sick and tired of there being usg c/cpp code in the loop ANYWHERE.
asciilifeform: this pointedly does not mean that i am interested in attempting to wash the smell of shit off a rando sickly rat from rando sewer.
shinohai: I will use trb as long as it works on the overall network, failing that I will have to find something else to occupy my time.
asciilifeform: i was willing to deal with the cpp miseryu of trb because 1) it pre-dates bitcoin being valuable 2) it was - and remains - the schelling point, 'father's pistols' ☟︎
assbot: Logged on 10-03-2016 10:49:38; mircea_popescu: so far, nsa-gavin, prb and [prolly] the miner cartel are all preparing something or the other.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-03-2016#1428468 << again, anyone who wants to follow a usg fork, can do it without me. and who wants to use a prb fork of whatever variety or rationale, can do it without me. ditto halfcocked crud conceived to enrich chinese scum. ☝︎
asciilifeform: because not separable from usg in any meaningful way except - DEFINITIONALLY - by entering the wot and doing a LONG tour of duty as a Real Person
asciilifeform: while there many be 'intelligence available outside of the wot', it is ~dead to me~ ☟︎☟︎
assbot: Logged on 10-03-2016 10:43:06; mircea_popescu: in other news - it still remains likely that this summer will see a bevy of various hardforks on offer. practically speaking, trb can offer either its own candidate, which takes a lot of work, or else sit tight and we'll follow the more intelligent of the avaialble offerings, which takes less work but also implies a lot of risk - experience to date shows that there's precious little intelligence avai
danielpbarron: i'm pretty good at doing that too
asciilifeform: (it is certainly where most of the ones i ever had, went.)
asciilifeform: losing at bbet is pretty much the only place i can blow btc !
asciilifeform: moar of the same.
fluffypony: all rational, thinking people have known this to be the expected outcome from the very beginning
fluffypony: kodemurani: this is not new information
kodemurani: May be true
punkman: https://i.imgur.com/9OFeOiG.png << we have pretty much all of those here :D
davout: 2. making taxes optional
davout: 1. decentralized timestamping
davout: to me there are exactly two use cases for bitcoin/blockchain ☟︎
fluffypony: most people building crap on top of "a blockchain" have no idea why they're doing so ☟︎
fluffypony: and I asked them why they were building on Ethereum, and despite much hand-waving they couldn't give me an actual reason
shinohai: "This is the Ethereum app directory with all non-working, gambling and meta apps removed." https://i.imgur.com/9OFeOiG.png <<< I kek'd at this.
fluffypony: davout: I made that exact argument at a meetup in Berlin last year where someone presented some junk they're building on Ethereum
davout: "The best case scenario for most of these projects is that there are end user benefits for other reasons, and that Ethereum is not required to deliver them. The complexity, and cost, of doing blockchain based products will in such cases eventually drive such products off chain, the same way changetip eventually went off-chain, and now recently into fiat mode."
shinohai: Ether is simply a Rube Goldbergesque way of making money for it's founder to buy a lifetime supply of Retin-A. When he has it *poof*
davout: ached is a big part of making this type of crowdfunding effective. Even worse, the project organizer could always fund the remainder of the contract privately, hence it is not at all clear that there is any actual gain of security. While it was a nice use of SIGHASH_ALL, it really solved a non-problem"
davout: "The lesson of the very well built lighthouse Bitcoin project, which has resulted in no more than a few thousand dollars of funding over the past years, has to be that there is extremely little value to be gained by introducing trustless escrow in crowdfunding. Even if you wanted to crowdfund something very controversial, where traditional web platforms will ban you, its not at all clear that disintermediating holding funds before cap is re
shinohai: also that
kodemurani: Thanks shinohai. Going through the logs
shinohai: Plenty of discussion here. When there isn't, there is a plethora of information in the logs.
kodemurani: Thank you danielpbarron for the voice
kodemurani: wondering if there is any discussion here on ether
assbot: Logged on 10-03-2016 10:43:46; mircea_popescu: in any case we should prolly have a strategy discussion here. paging mod6 asciilifeform jurov trinque phf an' the other interested parties.
shinohai will take notes http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-03-2016#1428463 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: davout how's that coming along ?
mircea_popescu: but hwat if the princess is in another castle!
mircea_popescu: so far, nsa-gavin, prb and [prolly] the miner cartel are all preparing something or the other. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: i'm not convinced either. but there's the possibility.
davout: i'm really not convinced we'll see a HF this year
mircea_popescu: in any case we should prolly have a strategy discussion here. paging mod6 asciilifeform jurov trinque phf an' the other interested parties. ☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: alls, and more likely than not we'll be stuck picking between a warty rat and a sickly mole.
mircea_popescu: in other news - it still remains likely that this summer will see a bevy of various hardforks on offer. practically speaking, trb can offer either its own candidate, which takes a lot of work, or else sit tight and we'll follow the more intelligent of the avaialble offerings, which takes less work but also implies a lot of risk - experience to date shows that there's precious little intelligence available outside the w ☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: without exception it fucked up ALL of these. and not lightly fuck them up, either.
mircea_popescu: assbot> RIP Google PageRank score: A retrospective on how it ruined the web << this is not an idle comment. google, like every other usg item, like usg collectively, was entrusted with great responsibility in many fields after the war.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> for the 5 people or so worldwide << oif which apparently two here ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> or did i read that backwards ? <<< seems so ?
assbot: RIP Google PageRank score: A retrospective on how it ruined the web ... ( http://bit.ly/1TvcDRh )
asciilifeform: but i have not tried this yet.
asciilifeform: the thing also can, apparently, emulate an sram, and even generically master an 8-bit bus
gernika: oh yeah - wasn't clear to me how to plug the thing in
asciilifeform: comes with two snakes, can stuff right in the place of a 1980s rom.
gernika: I'm just going to try out some z80 stuff. seems easier to use this than flashing eeproms.
gernika: ok. bleh. one more laptop laying around the house couldn't hurt I guess.
asciilifeform: (normally used to run malware)
asciilifeform: but to go back to original question, yes, winblowz crapolade runs on boxes designated for the purpose
asciilifeform: lulzily, eerom uses ~same chipset as the linked ^ above !!
asciilifeform: unobtainable today.
gernika: It looked like there was a dos util for it -- then I realized that was from 1999.
asciilifeform: for the 5 people or so worldwide who give a fuck.
gernika: asciilifeform: do you operate the EE Tools EeRom-8U (I think you referenced it in the logs recently) with windows? If so, with which 10 foot pole?
assbot: Logged on 09-03-2016 23:49:08; mircea_popescu: i suppose to be cracked the same way all of them get cracked - guy with immense downlist and very well connected gets off his lazy, stupid fiat-ass and goes through the wot selection process. then has enough spots specific and high level enough to interest the locals. seems a tall order.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-03-2016#1428367 << pigs will not only fly, but to mars. ☝︎
asciilifeform: but yes, the ONLY possible thing i would ever consider a job upgrade is ... not having to leave the house, or talk
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-03-2016#1428365 << i do unspeakable things to pay billz (not in a literal cube, but this is the ~one~ saving grace) ☝︎
asciilifeform: or did i read that backwards ?
asciilifeform: ( mircea_popescu , who doesn't hire anyone but plumbers, does not for this purpose count )
assbot: Logged on 09-03-2016 23:44:28; mircea_popescu: pretty much the only way he could have made economic sense was by marketing the spare cycles of well connected people here - outside.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-03-2016#1428363 << ahahahaha ad if there were connected people here ! ☝︎
assbot: Anonymous tip claims raw milk caused illnesses at Capitol ... ( http://bit.ly/1RS6fjH )
jidan: just a pleb.. hoping to see some chat
nubbins`: ^ re: the20yearplan / rentalstarter
mircea_popescu: anyway. apparnetly, not married, living together for 15 years, he owns the house, she's basically a tramp, dude drinks and nonconsensually humiliates the woman, had been driving her nuts the whole night, she lost it, is now sorry, tried to fix on teh spot, visits at hospital etc.
nubbins`: wow lel, this is old but
mircea_popescu: (the issue seems to be over not getting flowers for 8th march, "mother's day" in commie lands)
assbot: ATAC BIZAR de 8 Martie: O femeie i-a TĂIAT TESTICULELE soţului său pentru că nu i-a luat FLORI ... ( http://bit.ly/220XLih )
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mircea_popescu: but anyway - now that ars technica has proven that black slavery never happened, we can go back to separate but equal, i guess.
mircea_popescu: what, next you're going to say we have actual proof the usg had been running a string of massive conspiracies, such as you know, inserting backdoors in software, such as "parallel construction", such as iran contra, such as whatever the hell.
mircea_popescu: large scale conspiracy such as telling idiots they're not idiots could never happen. why would an idiot ever believe he's not an idiot ?!
asciilifeform: well they had manhattan project but then ran out of conspiratronium so dun work no moar
mircea_popescu: thanks god we got rid of algebra ii in time for the education of arstechnica staff.
assbot: Large-scale conspiracies are mathematically impossible to keep quiet | Ars Technica UK ... ( http://bit.ly/220WMyP )
mircea_popescu: "why would i ??!?! i am going to be the president of the united states!" "because you're one twist away from being an idiot" "so ?!"