asciilifeform: i dun see why we need the exact sums thing

asciilifeform: hmm

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: plox to clarify what http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-09#1848940 was about, in this case. i was under the specific impression that auction of items other than ecu is forbidden in mircea_popescu's bot. ☝︎

asciilifeform: hm?

asciilifeform: right, specific, like erry civilized auction block worx, 'i have 900kg of iridium', not 'i have iridium!'

asciilifeform: trinque what do you need to feel yerself in a civilized house of commerce instead of orc den. mod6 what do we need re fiatolade purchasing. jurov what do you need to start fucking showing up in forum.

asciilifeform: let's fix

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: trying to fix !

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it was my parsing of 'i'ma kick it' that you dun want any units other than btc and ecu in there ?

asciilifeform: or there were ? but not where i could see'em ?

asciilifeform: i'm trying to grasp what happened here, why no bids on 17th, or 18th, or any other day until last night?

asciilifeform: mod6: you asked him before 17th, or after ?

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ok, is what i thought

asciilifeform: no ?

asciilifeform: unconnected with eulora's

asciilifeform: nah got that, it's to be a separate proggy iirc

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it was my understanding that this bot is being retrofitted by lobbes for the necessary units

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this is exactly what's wanted

asciilifeform: ( fiatola, that is )

asciilifeform: well we're buying, rather than selling

asciilifeform: ( e.g. asciilifeform : million! trinque : nut, 10k ! mircea_popescu : idjit! 1k ... etc )

asciilifeform: but imho the civilized thing to do is proper forum bids.

asciilifeform: mod6: i'd happily work 100% of'em if i had what with.

asciilifeform: no moar whispers.

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo, mod6 : trinque is entirely right , bids oughta be open strictly.

asciilifeform: trinque: this is 100% fair imho

asciilifeform: why's this ? not formatted correctly, or wat

asciilifeform: trinque: in your pov mod6's http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-17#1850967 does not constitute 'ask' ? ☝︎

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: aside from the problem where mod6 proclaimed one on 17th and nobody came forward

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: hand-cranked auction ? i see no prob with this ( until we have robot )

asciilifeform: some folx have a very heavy meatspace life ( e.g. phf ) but i'm not aware of why jurov.

asciilifeform: i'ma have to agree with trinque , i have nfi where jurov's been hiding out and specifically why

asciilifeform: trinque: entirely meant as non-flame. i like selling usd occasionally ( did first , what , 6mo of pizarro... ) but i do not have a proper algo currently.

asciilifeform: trinque: let's say you were selling usd, instead of jurov ; how wouldja pick a price ? ( serious q, i dun have what could be considered a civilized & deterministic algo presently )

asciilifeform: mod6: based on , idk, crystal balls.

asciilifeform: mod6: and no closed doors plox, we'll work out the price right here.

asciilifeform: mod6: i'ma do the next one ( given as BingoBoingo got his crate ) , this oughta give enuff time for lobbesbot & some semblance of civilized life to start

asciilifeform: mod6: we're discussing hanbot's answr

asciilifeform: mod6: the article is pretty sad

asciilifeform: mod6: hm?

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes ditto

asciilifeform: mod6: plz to look

asciilifeform: hanbot: imho this is entirely good, and oughta be taken up

asciilifeform loox...

asciilifeform: hanbot: oh neato !

asciilifeform: pantsuit 'historians' naturally paint it as 'eeeevil southern expansion', noshit

asciilifeform: np

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2018/why-african-americans-can-never-excel-at-anything-relative-to-the-white-majority-they-cant-be-the-smartest-nor-the-poorest-nor-the-best-nor-the-neediest-nor-the-anything-else-est-not-ever/#comment-125079

asciilifeform: may have been in a trilema

asciilifeform: hmmm

asciilifeform: they happen when pre-dragon iirc

asciilifeform: or hrm possibly ~those~ aint a bug

asciilifeform: e.g. http://btcbase.org/log/2013-03-01#-41827 ☝︎

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it's got negative indices, too

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: got it. sadly i'ma have to rtfm, i am not deep expert in subj

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: ty

asciilifeform: ( and, naturally, it gotta absolutely work 100% before there can be talk of plugging it in.. )

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: plox at your earliest convenience to pgp to asciilifeform your notes re how pizarro exit router was configged... asciilifeform is baking a pilot replacement for subj

asciilifeform: ( spoiler : noad is up to date )

asciilifeform: meanwhile, in trb observatory... http://nosuchlabs.com/pub/trb/10_4_ProcessBlock.txt

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: lolwat

asciilifeform: diana_coman: neato

asciilifeform: Mocky: heh. sorta why i was orig reluctant to dig in & comment, i simply dun know enuff about the game mechanics

asciilifeform did sit down and 'im'a actually read this thing! nao!'

asciilifeform: np

asciilifeform: 5.2 seems to specify as a keccak output ?

asciilifeform: afaik using keccak for the 32 doesn't actually win anyffing over crc32 tho

asciilifeform: right

asciilifeform doesn't know the game board well enuff to comment meaningfully at this level, so will leave it at this

asciilifeform: recall birthday theorem, tho, you'll get ~certain collisions at <1% of this iirc

asciilifeform: but dunno. if dun need to , then prolly suffices.

asciilifeform: 4B lol

asciilifeform: oh hey

asciilifeform: (even for addr space of pc, observe)

asciilifeform: imho 32b is rather short for anyffing that you want to be unique, even without enemies ☟︎

asciilifeform: if answer is 'nuffin', would like to grasp why

asciilifeform: i don't specifically know, will depend on how it's used in the box neh

asciilifeform: *by registering

asciilifeform: ( and it it's a mere 32bit, still seems possible for enemy to create collisions but registering 1e12 accounts and waiting for the desired 32bit id )

asciilifeform: or did the spec miss mentioning that it's keccak(userkey + serversecret) -> 32bits id

asciilifeform: http://trilema.com/2018/euloras-communication-protocol-restated/#comment-126814 << my puzzlement is in re the item where you're still using keccak as a crc

asciilifeform: bought already iirc a coupla times. eventually will go to same glue factory as 'livejournal' etc

asciilifeform: ( one of those surprisingly long-lived chumpatrons )

asciilifeform: well, stable until whatever's left of 'yahoo' finally gives up ghost

asciilifeform: oh hey, finally a heathnlink that doesn't die in ~months

asciilifeform: short life.

asciilifeform: !#seen truffles

asciilifeform: !#born truffles

asciilifeform: !!reputation truffles

asciilifeform: dun think he was nubbins, but who the fuq knows

asciilifeform: some dark ages d00d

asciilifeform: clifford simak's 'city' .

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: a critter in an old b00k : http://btcbase.org/log/2014-04-03#601590 ☝︎

asciilifeform: 'hey kiddo, how come you dun wanna set yer small intestines free ?! they want to explore world too! in their fly form'

asciilifeform: fleadom.

asciilifeform: the pre-timberniers-tardation 'let's build a web' folx, understood this

asciilifeform: and yes if errybody agreed on a sane canonical text format, and actually exported that, search becomes ~trivial

asciilifeform: the moar fundamental problem is that 99.999....+% of the material is sewage

asciilifeform: (substring matching with 0 operators)

asciilifeform: semi-free