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nubbins`: ^ you didn't put it in a
TPS report, in other words
mircea_popescu: would have helped
to write it down. as
the original article asked, as
the rebuff
to
the original nubbins` said, and so on.
two weeks ago, whatever.
nubbins`: mats shouldn't you be
telling alf
to stfu?
nubbins`: mp uses
the broadest analogies possible, hey?
mircea_popescu: there isn't available
this "exit by reservation". it's a personal pretense, nothing more.
mircea_popescu: understand how matters of fact work. judge sits down, lets
the witness in. witness
tells a story. bystanders ask whatever
the fuck questions
they want. witness answers if he feels like it, and remembers, and has anything
to say. at
the end of
the day, bystanders can as pompously as
they wish declare
they're not coinvinced. matters not one iota. either better
theory is formed, or
the
thing stands.
nubbins`: only reason i bothered
to chip in was
to smother hanbot's hallucinations
mats: it isn't
the allegation, it is
the 1000x repetition
that i'm looking at
nubbins`: however,
there stands bitbet in
the state it's in. you saying
that mp
threw in
the
towel because i bullied him into it?
nubbins`: mats in fact i came back here after quite an absence and found
the shit still on fire
mats: you didn't walk into anything,
the noise in here is your doing
mats: you have been stoking
the same burning pile of shit for
two weeks
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform everywhere. got published in
teh gazette, received exactly no disputation, it's what it is.
mats: nubbins` is rapidly approaching 1.5k lines over
two weeks about
the same damn
topic
nubbins`: or was she just reminding
them
that bullshit has a specific
taste?
nubbins`: asciilifeform: did mpoe-pr "give a fuck" about
the scammers she skewered on
the forums?
assbot: Logged on 20-03-2016 23:50:19; mircea_popescu: looky,
that nonsense isn't going
to snivel into factuality just because butthurt. chinese miner conspiracy is a fact, undisputed and accepted as such.
nubbins`: ask mp, he's
the one with all
the insider knowledge
nubbins` searches memory for rational reasons why alf would
think
this, comes up blank
nubbins`: asciilifeform why would you assume in
the first place
that all
these random comments on bitbet are me instead of
the various angry parties
to whom bitbet owes money?
assbot: Logged on 08-03-2016 00:21:18; nubbins`: if i had a satoshi for every
time mp said "looky" when he'd lost an argument, i'd be able
to donate a
tx fee
to bitbet
mircea_popescu: i am saying
that whatever you're
talking
to her about, stick
to it an' let me be.
mircea_popescu: looky : part of your
trying
to cope with hanbot's deriding your peculiar notion of responsibility was
to come hide under my skirts. i said plox don't come hide under my skirts.
that's all.
mircea_popescu: that has exactly nothing
to do with
the discussion, so let's let it be.
kakobrekla: or else its much easier for me
to ufos delete my private keys for it
kakobrekla: anyway, even if ufos delete your private keys you cant just put it on
the company
mircea_popescu: but "i dunno, wasn't
there, don't believe" does not actually enact anything. it's just
the
typical position of
the scholar withdrawing from
the world.
mircea_popescu: now
then.
that you or anyone else "dunno, wasn't
there, whatever", it's one
thing.
mircea_popescu: looky,
that nonsense isn't going
to snivel into factuality just because butthurt. chinese miner conspiracy is a fact, undisputed and accepted as such.
☟︎ assbot: Logged on 20-03-2016 23:21:15; kakobrekla: hanbot
to quote you:
The k factor comes from
the specified nature of
the business (ie, BTC business). In order
to be able
to offer BTC business you must at a minimum be able
to correctly and safely handle payments.
nubbins`: altho i guess it's mostly a show for folks
that don't go back and read
the logs
nubbins`: having
to blatantly spout nonsense
nubbins`: kakobrekla i could've
told you last week
that
they'd fever-dream
their way
through
this
nubbins`: you need
to
take a course in basic logic
kakobrekla: or maybe mp can go "i, mp, have
through a series of mistakes made a double payment and will now pretend it was a chinese conspiracy, say publicly i did it masochistically but actually bill it sadistically
to
the company as a made up war expense"
nubbins`: so, no, he didn't
turn a situation from
that into anything.
nubbins`: there was no situation where
the shareholders owed 17 btc
hanbot: nah,
take responsibility for
the following
thing: "i, kakobrekla,
turned
the situation where
the shareholders owed 17 btc and had credit
to repay it in
the future, into a situation where
the shareholders have nothing, and
the bettors owe at least 13 btc, if not more.
this is
the best i could do, hire me and i'll do
the same for you."
kakobrekla: hanbot please enlighten me how and why should i
take responsibility for mps double payment of which i was aware of only after
the fact?
hanbot: asciilifeform he said
that
they're more
than welcome
to do something other
than whine eh?
mircea_popescu: let it be stated
that i don't wish asciilifeform
to be doing any interpreting of what i've said after i'm dead.
kakobrekla: hanbot
to quote you:
The k factor comes from
the specified nature of
the business (ie, BTC business). In order
to be able
to offer BTC business you must at a minimum be able
to correctly and safely handle payments.
☟︎ hanbot: kakobrekla from
the outside, all
that's seen is you going gotta protect
the shareholders!!1 and a week later
the shareholders are fucked...and
the customers are boiling. not
that i expect you
to
take responsibility rather
than
talk about it, but you've fucked up.
mircea_popescu: i'm starting
to notice
that most insufferable
things and people i ever ran across were computers and computer experts.
mircea_popescu: have a stern
talk with
the notion of computing, rather.
mircea_popescu: and replacement is fucking up
the monitor. apparently, can't have previous mode because it puts it out of bounds
nubbins`: asciilifeform in general or on said
topics?
kakobrekla: asciilifeform we discussed various models of bitbet operations, one of mps suggestions was
that i hold
the btc and flush
the deposits over
to him occasionally or somesuch which i refused and suggested he gives me a huge list of his address which i will be handing out
kakobrekla: if
there is no liability its much easier
to fuck up
the coins myself
kakobrekla: the point is
that i agreed
to do bitbet back
then as long as mp is responsible and liable for bitcoins (as per
thread - i refused
to handle
them)- which he no longer wants
to be
nubbins`: i give precisely, literally, zero fucks about anything
to do with bitbet, mp, etc
kakobrekla: cool, so you are aware
that you cant have responsibility without liability
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: unfortunately i haven't found a way
to
truncate
this log
mircea_popescu: but i ~am~ well impressed by
the proposition. i suppose coming up next is, "asciilifeform and poettering both write software".
mircea_popescu: abomination of mistaken history, fuck
the consumer with a rusty nail plank.
mircea_popescu: what
the fuck, someone stands for
the consumer, now ? fuck
the consumer.
hanbot: kakobrekla so in
the process of protecting
the shareholders from a 17 btc bill, you managed
to destroy all
their holdings and stick
the bettors with a 13 btc or w/e it's going
to end up. pretty sucky, innit?
mircea_popescu: let
them stop whining and get in
the wot, administer receiverships, do
things.
mircea_popescu: eh,
the whole internet consists of people who
think
they can do
things better
than anyone ; and
then can't do jack shit
to save
their lives.
thestringpuller: it worked just find connecting
to ~your~ node for
the last month and a half
assbot: Logged on 18-03-2016 18:11:44; kakobrekla:
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-03-2016#1435731 < not at all - i
think
there is some merit in
the argument in
the sense
that bitbet will hardly survive
the upset its going
through now (which is actually devaluating
the asset
to be liquidated)
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: looks like it may be due
to -connect vs -addnode