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mircea_popescu: just... you know... "how did actor plane end up in us controlled airspace ?" "well...
they were in on it" "so it was a us plane" "uh no.. it was NOT REALLY." "mk ?"
mircea_popescu: that saying would be in no way distinguishable from
this other
theory.
mircea_popescu: it ~could~ be argued
that what
they shot down was an ACTOR plane acting
the part of being a fighter jet in a film about serbs.
mircea_popescu: as you know -
the serbs, using very primitive
technology, shot down an "invisible" fighter jet.
mircea_popescu: i would expect it
to be dissolvable on purely formal grounds, because
the whole
thing is nothing other and nothing more
than a nominal attempt. but dunno why
this isn't obvious.;
mircea_popescu: there is an outstanding issue ; i dunno how much you actually still credit
the (separate network - not miner cartel)
theory. i dunno how
to approach
that
to make it plain
to you it holds no water.
tho it necessarily doesn't.
mircea_popescu: the fact of
teh matter is
that
the forum's not
there yet.
ben_vulpes: i asked "why did you not bring
this before
the forum first?", and received "what, /you/ idiots?", from which i derive
that i am not
to expect answers, and if
to not expect answer why ask?
mircea_popescu: (there's also a difference between asking admiral lord nelson what color are his flags ; or how his cannons work ; and asking him why he put
the ships in a line
ten apart. but
this for another
time.)
mircea_popescu: but
there's a space between what your quote shows and what "futility-cum-insubordination of a footsoldier asking anything" means.
mircea_popescu: well now. alf's easily disposed of : bitbet did in fact go into such receivership ; i have little doubt ben_vulpes is doing
things. so
that's
that.
phf: of snap it's a quote-off!
two boys enter, one man leave!
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes
there's really nothing wrong in asking anything.
ben_vulpes: eyyy
trinque not
that you're short of work or anything rn but hey, add 'titles'
to
the
todo list?
trinque: or what did
the declaration I signed mean?
trinque sees
the king angle, and also
the "anything in my hands is mine
to do with, and who asked anyone else?"
ben_vulpes: and as mircea_popescu has pointed out, courts' mandate descends from
the king but may not bind him
trinque: ben_vulpes │ ... and recognizing
the futility-cum-insubordination of a footsoldier asking anything << what foot soldier was
this? All I saw was a Ricky from
Trailer Park Boys impersonation shouting words he heard on
terribly written
TV about biznis
phf: diana_coman: right,
thread was for myself rather
then others, and i found what i was looking for. i just couldn't keep dodging snark and "shit in soup" every other sentence, so had
to make
that detour
diana_coman: ah, no, I meant more of
the rate-me-rate-you variety really
ben_vulpes: i'm entirely guilty of seeing something
that my raven-eye finds shiny and reacting with "neat" or "nifty" or "cool"
diana_coman: and moreover I have
to say
that a bit earlier in b-a I had
this uneasy feeling
that people were patting one another on
the back, maybe it was just me
ben_vulpes: "but if
the cost of having continuity is
to be shackled
to dem000cracy (tm alf), i'll happily shed
the continuity
to be rid of
the cows"?
ben_vulpes: diana_coman: "change is
the only constant!" (d,tmr~). i've no desire for communiteh and happiness and being in a room where everyone gets along. but
the logs were valuable in
their own right, for as long as
they had
that continuity.
diana_coman: fwiw continuity has never been, in my experience of anything, of
the "as
things were" variety
ben_vulpes: smoke more cigarettes,
talk shit about cmdrs.
ben_vulpes: but hey, we move
the camp, dig more latrines.
ben_vulpes: i am fully
torn between
the poles of wanting
to understand why mircea_popescu burned
the coins
to make
the point, desperately wanting continuity with
the logs-as-they-were, and recognizing
the futility-cum-insubordination of a footsoldier asking anything
diana_coman: kakobrekla is basically an unknown quantity
to me, I must add
diana_coman: aha,
thanks for
the clarification phf ; I did follow
the whole
thread but I can't say I actually caught
this intent of yours as such
phf: ng, because anything stronger
than
that he bulks
phf: diana_coman: just
to clarify,
the framing was deliberate and part of a larger
thread. when i started conversation kakobrekla and nubbins were both
trigger happy and aggressive,
the purpose of
the entire
thread was
to figure out where
they stand by softening
their disposition.
talking in
terms of competency (worded as a hypothetical accusation
to be weighted by a hypothetical court) has proven effective in
the past in clarifying kakobrekla's
thinki
mircea_popescu: but if you approach
the matter fundamentally, it quickly balloons.
phf: i only just realized
that..
mircea_popescu: phf> asciilifeform: how's conversation links going
to work? <<
this is actually a rather complex problem. i suspect
they well might not work at all.
mircea_popescu: shtylman had an exchange
that was "hacked", all sorts of ridiculous pretentious bs. wore a derpy hat ; was supposed
to be some sort of white kid genius.
mircea_popescu: zhoutong is one of
the people involved in
the bitcoinica scam ; he was supposed
to be some azn child genius.
mircea_popescu: chaangnoi aka goat aka 1k other
things is some derpy wanna-be living in
thailand and for a while doing whatever dubious coolie business in and around glbse. mostly pirate-related scammerships.
mircea_popescu: bitcoin_charlie is actually recently famous for
the whole "this is what
they don't
tell you"
thing.
mircea_popescu: gavinandersen is
the "experts agree" derp from last year.
mircea_popescu: dproberts i imagine is
to be
the derpy guy with a "drugs market"
that couldn't sell a bag of coke ; also ordered some "murders for highre".
mircea_popescu: anyway, for
the curious minds among
the new folks, let's run
through
that list. jared kenna for a while ran
the 2nd largest btc/usd exchange. ran off with
the piggy, started a real estate development with it, had
the unmitigated audacity
to
try coming back into bitcoin, because hey, "community" is worth a bowl of soup a head.
danielpbarron: aegis is some guy i
traded a bunch of cash in
the mail with, and
then flipped out over something i don't even recall what, but it was back when i was in otc
phf: asciilifeform:
that was
the point of my inquiry
pete_dushenski: it's been a educational day in more sense
than one
then
phf: kind of like a fellah who heard girl he fancies broke up, "hey, how's it going! yeah, i've just been in
the neighborhood, oh you broke up?
too bad.... so is
there anyone on
the horizon???"
pete_dushenski: more
than a few of
the starting line-up vacated
the premises, giving
the benchwarmers a fresh shot
phf: asciilifeform: how's conversation links going
to work?
mircea_popescu: phf> generative vines
that grow based on how much space
there is << word.
phf: generative vines
that grow based on how much space
there is
phf: have newer version
that has fancy features, but i couldn't really roll it out for myself, since "download logs over
http from kako's server" is not best strategy
phf: there are flags
that it
takes
that disables
the behavior, and yeah "large chunks of space" is annoying and log would've been better if i wanted
to go and fix it
phf: well, it makes more sense when conversation is very dense
the way it usually is
phf: asciilifeform: it's an older version
that i wrote a while ago and been using for reading
phf: well, like for example it adds spaces based on how much
time passed between messages
phf: the reader is idiosyncratic, so i'll have
to make it more palatable for general consumption
mircea_popescu: why is
teenage daughter calling her father "you" ? how is
this proper ?
phf: trinque: yes!
that would be handy. i just audited
that postgresql common lisp driver (not
the popular one, but
the pure network pg one)
mircea_popescu: but for
the other
thing, and more important i guess : it's strictly impossible by now
to distinguish
teenager daughter from wife in a film. not only because
the fucking actresses represented as sexually powerful are so fucking neotenuous it's uncanny ; but also because of
the retarded habit of giving women
the same age all
the fucking roles.
they're all "29" ; and finally because fucking hell family relations in anglosphere...
mircea_popescu: for one
thing,
the enviroderps don't even realise just how
tediously insufferable
their propaganda is, i suspect. fucking jehova witnesses already.