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mircea_popescu: the 419 scam is a particular arbitrage of the knowledge problem. the way it works is that money in modern society consists of a substance and a form. its substance is hinted at by the "aml/kyc" bs, which is a whole other pile of lulz we won't be getting into here. you prefer to refer to it as "X couldn't own rembrandts" internally.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you perhaps still entertain this delusional hope that man is what he wishes to be / sees self as.
asciilifeform: as always.
mircea_popescu: he usual crap] ; it doesn't occur to him that while this is true, the expectation that "all the people" are a sort of given, and polyamory must be applied TO them, as they are, warts and all, as opposed to THEM being applied to it, through an extrudation process which substantially changes THEM, as just so happens to be the absolute historical norm both in theory and in practice - but hey, he needn't know this anymore than th
mircea_popescu: http://lesswrong.com/r/discussion/lw/9p9/open_thread_february_114_2012/5v6g << i followed this link off the guy's page ; turned out to be exactly as worthless as expected (take the most glaringly obvious point - he protests that polyamory practitioners are rich powerful valuable people [which he can't confront so he has to mangle up in terms of skin color etc, which doesn't make him a racist because rationalism or whatever, t
asciilifeform: model has proven remarkably durable despite the constant wearying turmoil of exit-scams and hacks and as I write this in mid-July 2015, there seems to be little chance that things will change substantially soon. (If Tor hidden services are cracked, the DNMs will simply move to I2P or Freenet; if Bitcoin starts getting too easily tracked, transactions will be settled in Monero or another cryptocoin with better anonymity properties, et
asciilifeform: 'I'm no longer as interested in the DNMs as I used to be. I was originally lured in by the fascination of watching a small cryptopunk revolution, and I was hopeful that it would go beyond the SR1 model into multisig and beyond. But we have seen little multisig usage, and that augurs ill for the distributed marketplaces. (What if someone built a trustless distributed blackmarket and no one wanted to use it?) Instead, the SR1 business
mircea_popescu: jurov ^ feel free to extract as such and it'll be imported later on.
mircea_popescu: so is the logical thing here to just proclaim "rsa key, as per the republic, is a e, N, string tripled" and then, jurov can dump to THAT format and you'll import from that format later ?
asciilifeform: no, as in thrown in the submit box.
asciilifeform: as in .asc
asciilifeform: (as in, rfc4880 turds)
ben_vulpes: there's a deedbot ripoff doing the rounds as well
mircea_popescu: jurov we want the key data anyway, you know, so as to publish the pages nicely.
mircea_popescu: as foretold in ... THE VERY LOGS!
shinohai: I cannot see trigglpuff as "young woman" by any stretch of imagination.
mircea_popescu: these, to my eyes, count as EXACTLY nothing.
asciilifeform: we have http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-04#1462672 of them as of last count. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: no he didn't. he didn't get as far as removing the dsa/ecc keys out of the sks dump to get a proper count of rsa moduli
shinohai: http://www.egyptindependent.com//news/tom-jerry-blame-violence-arab-world-official <<< so I watched a lot of T&J as a child, I suppose I am a terrorist.
phf: well, as of right now it's not pulling at any rate
mircea_popescu: send men to where they have leverage - such as by exposing a whole swathe of usg "law enforcement" derps.
asciilifeform: but artifully, deliberately, as misdirection
mircea_popescu: all he's saying is that using THE FOUND FACTORS as some sort of lithmus for the key production process is a dead end. which it is.
asciilifeform: the insistence on 'software bug' whereas it is plain as daylight ~why~ there are 32mirror keys, and why they are for whom they are, is the riotous part.
mircea_popescu: oh and incidentally, definitely worth reading gwern.net ; that fellow is almost exactly the tmsr antichrist : haskellite as far as computing science goes ; consumate lesswrongian as long as theology goes ; tardpedia "inclusionist" as long as political philosophy goes. pretty much every mistaken, poisonous or outright wrong assumption "modern" "civilisation" makes, he makes. loudly, unapologetically, roundly.
asciilifeform: ''ImageMagick allows to process files with external libraries. This feature is called 'delegate'. It is implemented as a system() with command string ('command') from the config file delegates.xml with actual value for different params (input/output filenames etc). Due to insufficient %M param filtering it is possible to conduct shell command injection. One of the default delegate's command is used
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: as a matter of fact i do
asciilifeform: i can throw them in as a specialcase.
mircea_popescu: somehow illiterate street urchins in all the large cities, 1916 as well as 2016 can master this basic concept before age 14. yet it eludes the byproducts of welfare state.
mircea_popescu: sure. but not quite the same holy bible now and there as it was then.
mircea_popescu: this "pedigreed yacht rats" exists strictly in your imagination, as a derivative product of 1970s Burda.
mircea_popescu: as children, they stuck their head in a ring. then they kept adding rings.
mircea_popescu: anyway, in practical terms - so he references both. good for him. anyone interested in doing some work can look at either site and proceed. i can't find any useful item AT ALL on factorable net. not as much as a factor or anything. some vague discussions in summary of supposed finds substantiated in no manner. if this is science you can also be pope, why not.
Chicago: Ah, okay. Maybe the claim Trump will pick Hillary as his VP has some merit to it.
Chicago: At the time the Barracuda ES.2 drives were manufactured, their promotional materials were quite attractive. As time progressed, there were a number of problems with them similar to the IBM Deskstar (Deathstar) hard drives.
mircea_popescu: but much like in the case of "metal detectors" in airports, going for about as long, the goal was never THAT.
mod6: further, i feel like there is a sense of pride that comes from taking the time to do something right, as opposed to doing something quick and dirty.
mircea_popescu: there's more kludge that needs to go. such as, internet connectivity.
a111: Logged on 2016-05-04 00:32 asciilifeform: i also recommend that gpg4win henceforth be referred to as gpg4lose.
asciilifeform: the '12 is published as an addendum to it
asciilifeform: i also recommend that gpg4win henceforth be referred to as gpg4lose. ☟︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2016-05-03 23:09 mircea_popescu: in other lulz, http://archive.is/pgp.mit.edu << full archive of the keys as found in situ
mircea_popescu: in other lulz, http://archive.is/pgp.mit.edu << full archive of the keys as found in situ ☟︎
ascii_butugychag: ^ this is, best as i can tell, a legit key
ascii_butugychag: it happened just as michael hastings happened.
mircea_popescu: you say it as if it actually happened.
meuh: OK, I need to investigate more (going to open again that OpenPGP RFCs) and don't waste your time. I originally tought there was a bug in the interface that was incorrectly reporting my keys as dupes because I've made a single armored export of the public key and feeds this as a single blob to the submission page
meuh: Now, they all appears as duplicated http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/dupes
ascii_butugychag: and the man has to be a lunatic, who would sign up for this? it is like signing up as court alchemist in 17th c
ascii_butugychag: ~same as a fella who watches 8h of tv a day, i imagine.
ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: my point was that in nazi land i get ranked as simply a very lazy nazi who spends time on ???? rather than properly drilling with the other ss men
Apocalyptic: " // I would be curious as to why you suspect such a thing
ascii_butugychag: as if it were in doubt.
mircea_popescu: isn't it the case that 99% of compile failures get called "wrong gcc version/flags" ? as if that does anything ?
mircea_popescu: as he says - perfectly fair.
Apocalyptic: 12:18 <+mircea_popescu> Apocalyptic ^ i propose as best candidate for m-r testing. // I'm already working on a more approachable one, also I don't know what's with you and m-r but I don't think m-r is a good factorization algo, I was and am running p-1 , p+1 and ECM
mircea_popescu: there is absolutely no reason, nor can there be any reason, c compiler can't take two strings, such as the decameron and the collected works of shakespeare, and multiply them together, as fucking numbers, and spit out the result. none.
mircea_popescu: the compiler is more than happy to make a linked list of fixints and do the carryovers as required.
mircea_popescu: ascii_deadfiber and while on this topic : it beggars belief that bignum-as-linked-list-of-any-size-up-to-avail-ram is not a fucking standard in gcc in 2016.
a111: Logged on 2016-05-03 10:28 mircea_popescu: in vaguely related lulz, http://www.javascripter.net/math/primes/millerrabinbug-bigint54.htm as well as "However, if you try to pass an odd number n greater than 2^53 the test will not work because the argument would actually turn out to be some other number approximately equal to the desired odd number: JavaScript/IEEE754 cannot exactly represent odd numbers that large!"
a111: Logged on 2016-05-03 08:30 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-03#1461614 << ianacs, but : fwis the way all these "modern" computing stacks work, is they are made by people with absolutely no system design training, competence or understanding. as a result, they end up hand-crafting the tail. the ready equivalent would be a "new, modern" game of chess, where as the game progresses more and more moves have to be verified against a rulebook ; and then against
BingoBoingo: I dunno, the cheese is roughly as equal as some "Americans", but fxing
mircea_popescu: in vaguely related lulz, http://www.javascripter.net/math/primes/millerrabinbug-bigint54.htm as well as "However, if you try to pass an odd number n greater than 2^53 the test will not work because the argument would actually turn out to be some other number approximately equal to the desired odd number: JavaScript/IEEE754 cannot exactly represent odd numbers that large!" ☟︎
mircea_popescu: Apocalyptic ^ i propose as best candidate for m-r testing.
mircea_popescu: lmao "my vodka identifies as water - therefore it is good for me!"
mircea_popescu: rly game looks spiffy (on all of them!), as the data moves from kb to mb and the node count goes up and on and on, the thing (all of them!) collapses in a pile of uncaught, "nobodycouldhavepredicted" complexity explosions. and all this because idiot/voodoo expert came up with the brilliant idea of "hey, we make robot for your nuclear plant, and if it drops the pu brick you just pick it up by hand and put it back in the hopper
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-03#1461614 << ianacs, but : fwis the way all these "modern" computing stacks work, is they are made by people with absolutely no system design training, competence or understanding. as a result, they end up hand-crafting the tail. the ready equivalent would be a "new, modern" game of chess, where as the game progresses more and more moves have to be verified against a rulebook ; and then against ☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2016-05-03 00:32 BingoBoingo: Classic trilema http://trilema.com/2013/margaritas-ante-porcos-as-it-were/
mircea_popescu: as little as a link to .... o wait, check it out... hacker news beleeted the comment pointing out he was caught lying last year. loller. anyway. as much as a link to <a href=http://trilema.com/2015/more-factored-rsa-keys-and-assorted-other-considerations/#selection-413.0-419.38>Hanno Böck caught lying.</a> will do
ben_vulpes: > allows programmers to work directly with objects as if they were in memory while in fact the object data is always stored persistently << stinks of ORM shit-dippery
phf: Sorry I'm on phone and just needed to pipe in. But I picked up datomic on a project as "clojure take on allegro cache" and I was expecting similar performance (tens of millions of records on a reasonable machine)
ben_vulpes: (and also as previously discussed in logs, the scraps on my table are rarely of "web scale" magnitude)
ben_vulpes: mostly, except as trinque discovered when one goes to do joins.
BingoBoingo: Classic trilema http://trilema.com/2013/margaritas-ante-porcos-as-it-were/ ☟︎
mircea_popescu: but yes, pretty nifty as you can use it to send a [sorta] encrypted message entirely via web
mircea_popescu: PGencode.js particularily interesting i thought as it really takes base64 pubkey and puts it through rsa.js
mircea_popescu: as long as it's a rsa key, it will work.
mircea_popescu: fromphuctor__ yes but phuctor currently eats rfc 4880 format, owing to its history as a pgp key checker.
asciilifeform: as with digital cameras, l0l!
asciilifeform: NOT same as fp !
Apocalyptic: the important thing is k/2 prime enables to distinguish between the 2, a k/4 prime doesn't, as it would occur in both cases
Apocalyptic: yeah but why the 4 specifically ? for all you know you can have a k/3 prime as well
mircea_popescu: Apocalyptic p and q randomly generated can still produce a prime factor somewhere in there, perhaps as large as 1/4 of the length of the key.
mircea_popescu: as with all failing empires in history a) the better commentary happens among people who do not have the empire's language as native language ; b) the hassle of obtaining official seal of whatever exceeds the benefits.
asciilifeform: though funnily enough i mentioned phuctor when i was hired there, as a 'litmus test'
mircea_popescu: honestly, nonpaged is better. guy gets whole thing in one go, prolly results in less overall bw as less futzing and wastage.
mircea_popescu: in other non-news, omfg all the famished camhos posing as online dommes. they are the masters of your wallet dontchakno.
Apocalyptic: i'm gonna post in-channel I guess, same as earlier
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-02#1461046 << seems like the schmuck sat down on one of the helpfully prepared stakes - wrote 'apple' a bug report, which was duly read at ft meade on account of his using 'apple' key as appears on phuctor ☝︎
phf: well, it did, but i have a backup always, so unless there's a complete breakdown, logs are retained. i need to add an autoreconnector, but as is usually the case with that sort of things, i'm limited on time
BingoBoingo: Right, It's being done the actual way as opposed to the query shithub for an existing script way.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo actually it's being built as we speak. jurov 's thing above is mere steps away from general purpose.
Valfor: and so came here, as I was intrigued
mircea_popescu: anyway. domain reg'd feb 16th, first post april 26th. teh boyz poured their sweat blood an' tears as the expression goes. too bad it won't work. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: hopefully it protected the aussie something or the other just as well!
mircea_popescu: maybe we actually manage to figure out who did what to whom here, it's suspicious as all hell.
mircea_popescu: piratsimon would you be so kind as to post the software you used to make that key ?
adlai: jurov: correct, as always
punkman: Be assured, just as you have worked, I have not been idle during these many years. Since those early days, after distancing myself from the public persona that was Satoshi, I have poured every measure of myself into research. I have been silent, but I have not been absent. I have been engaged with an exceptional group and look forward to sharing our remarkable work when they are ready.