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mircea_popescu: but i imagine davout has been taking notes on how to do this ; and for sure a good question in any future receiver selection will be "what have you learned from bitbet liquidation process"
mircea_popescu: ideally the way to do this is, auction master gives out a hash, everyone must include it ☟︎☟︎
mod6: i mean, did that happen?
mircea_popescu: "yes" only means something among the sort of idiots that'd take that.
mod6: is it a real thing about turing and the HH thing?
asciilifeform: yes, there live idiots who sign 'yes' and 'no'. don't be them.
danielpbarron: i'm not convinced putting so much signed material out there was even the right way to have done that..
mod6: maybe i was smoking crack. got him a bit confused with pascal and the war, and the accounting bit
danielpbarron: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-07#1448245 >> pete_dushenski> o sorry that, left those out because unsigned << signature wasn't required! ☝︎
mod6: oh yeah, leibniz created the 'stepped reckoner' right?
mod6: yeah, thats the thing
asciilifeform: condemned to the pascaline!11
mod6: got off on that tangent too
mod6: meanwhile, the 30 years war raged
mod6: ah yeah, i read about all of this recently because of our discussions lately.
mircea_popescu: in truth clockworkery had been a slowly evolving craft since greek antiquity.
BingoBoingo: greeks might have made them too
mod6: oh, yeah, probably not the first or anything.
mircea_popescu: who invented the thing is iffy, many people did
BingoBoingo: davout: Now it should be fixed, but I do not see anything wrong with hyperlink extending to trailing space.
mod6: leibniz invented that mechanical calculator right?
mircea_popescu: woulda sucked if we had to redo it or w/e bs.
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: I am tentatively adding the t as per davout's announcement
davout: mircea_popescu: lemme check all that tomorrow when i'm fully woken up :D
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo: ya, that's weird, i guess i goes by both ?
BingoBoingo: davout: I am not seeing extra spaces in there
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: Not in the name as he presented it with the winning bid
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo: Znor987 << there's a "t" in there
mircea_popescu: davout to try and get a final settlement here, i owe you 199.45006789, add to which 13.37 ; you owe me 86 for to be distributed to the shareholders, add to which 4.83378422 from the hotwallet, add to which 3.35043347 (335.04334737×.01), comes to 118.63585027 altogether. that sound right ? winner pay you yet ? ☟︎
BingoBoingo: davout: fxd'd I think?
davout: BingoBoingo: the "highest bid at 86 Bitcoin" link has extra spaces
mircea_popescu: mod6 they have it on mouseover.
mod6: so cheers for getting them up and going. :]
mod6: glad to be back reading the logs though.
mod6: btw, these logs could use a hh:mm:ss ts on the front
pete_dushenski: davout: cheers. you're probably not the only one who would've preferred known and (somewhat) trusted owner vs. unknown quantity, but hey money talks and bullshit walks.
davout: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-07#1448228 <<< sorry! i have to admit i was slightly disappointed to see you didn't take bb home ☝︎
davout: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-07#1448250 <<< i just did, ty! ☝︎
mod6: asciilifeform: thanks for the ada link
pete_dushenski: not like i wasn't planning how i'd overcome this retardation if i was going to be handling >100 txen per mo, but hey, someone else's problem now i guess
pete_dushenski: omfg do they ever
mod6: pete_dushenski: hey I did get your message about the weird balance thing. i've seen that myself too.
pete_dushenski: ;;later tell ben_vulpes i can see why you like that shelbyllet : it's aircraft meets muscle car. and wouldja check out that inboard/pushrod suspension! mega-nifty. largely unseen on street cars outside lambo aventador ($500k) and, of course, pagani ($1mn+++)
mod6: good convo today re: ada/c/math machine, etc.
mircea_popescu: that was the roaring 2010s tho neh ?
mircea_popescu: bucharest was in the same position.
mircea_popescu: fortunately no earthquakes. hopefully they mostly fixed it.
mircea_popescu: and tbh, at some point in the 90s moscow was half falling over, actually.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> like the sov towns in far east that are frozen ghost towns now. << this makes one hell of a trip btw.
asciilifeform: (as do the scum, yes)
asciilifeform: like it or not, 'good things flow to the city'
asciilifeform: note also that the far east ghost towns in su, but moscow is not.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Did not emerge from asphale, about 15-20 feet away from asphalt. Crew that exploded pipe was doing some shit to prep the site for an old folks home.
asciilifeform: and when i get small voltage dip and call repair truck, it shows up in 40 min.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: you say this, but i've never seen fireballs emerging from the asphalt.
asciilifeform: like the sov towns in far east that are frozen ghost towns now.
asciilifeform: point being, the time will come when $infrastructure explodes and is not repaired.
BingoBoingo: Anyways, my zimbabwe is prolly less zimbabwe than yours.
BingoBoingo: You'd be surprised where they pipe gas here
asciilifeform: zimbabwes weren't meant to have piped gas.
BingoBoingo: So, I drove by well over a million dollars in ruined construction equipment this morning.
mircea_popescu: hanbot no, she physically mans the kiosk. like the job someone would be normally hired to do, and get a wage.
mircea_popescu: yet there they are, mesmerized contributors.
mircea_popescu: much like byzantine peasant couldn't construct the orthodox delusion ; much like alf teh bee dog can't construct washington.
hanbot: i thought it's some sort of leave yer shit in our kiosk and we'll sell it sorta deal
mircea_popescu: the only thing she can't do is, construct the mental infrastructure of pretense she subscribes to.
mircea_popescu: hanbot but she has to do the sales as it is!
hanbot: the initiative and work involved in the actual sales is rarely something an old woman can accomplish
asciilifeform: right here they are, i imagine, holding up reagan
asciilifeform: so - them!
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: didja have in ro the old folks holding up pictures of stalin ?
hanbot: particularly when old age enters into this.
hanbot: mircea_popescu it's possible something like that is the cheaper option for a certain sort of person in a certain sort of context
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> i'm in awe of what ustardia can do to people. << PUBLISHING!!!
mircea_popescu: these people are, basically, very dedicated cultists. they WANT a CERTAIN SOMETHING to be how things work. and will disregard and ignore anything and everything else. because they're not, fundamentally, opressed. they're, fundamentally, nazis.
mircea_popescu: as evidenced to me and for my needs by the plain fact that even when the actual rational explanation is no longer applicable,
mircea_popescu: which is the problem here. even when it works, the "appstore" didn't work for the rational reason, but for the irrational one.
asciilifeform: busker is a very active, in your face thing
mircea_popescu: da fuck, most buskers make more than her by a fat margin.
asciilifeform: it is a lulzy reversal, actually, normally it is i who 'none of these apparent X are true X'
mircea_popescu: and ftr, the woman would make 10x to 100x more selling on street.
mircea_popescu: a similar cognitive process would be to say : a) i don't fuck bricks ; b) another exists ; c) therefore, another fucks bricks.
mircea_popescu: this isn't a point, this is a psychogenic bit of nonsense.
asciilifeform: like in the 'pioneers land' trilema article.
mircea_popescu: so... no. no folks. no anything. just a snake of pressed shit eating its tail and wondering why the process is lossy.
asciilifeform: but my point was that folks-who-definitely-aren't-me own the whole lot.
asciilifeform: i suspect even my arse has owner, somewhere in a filing cabinet some parasite has title to it.
mircea_popescu: you think the situation is peculiar to gold ? it is not.
mircea_popescu: it's mortgaged, hypotecated, securitized, sold, bought and transfered. nothing belongs to anyone or anything.
mircea_popescu: nothing you can possibly touch in a day of trying has an owner. nothing.
mircea_popescu: nobody there.
mircea_popescu: yeah, they are. again : wizard of oz.
asciilifeform: every sidewalk tile i step on has owner.
asciilifeform: recall the lab robot thread ?
asciilifeform: the more poisonous - the better.
asciilifeform: any fly in their soup is a friend of mine.
asciilifeform: the folks who carved up and own the whole fucking universe, are responsible for this.
asciilifeform: it is classic app store - 'don't like it? go sell on the street, keep 100% of the pennies you get'
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no i know the history of how it ended up in. i'm just saying, it really is pretty stupid, useless and wtf already.
mircea_popescu: dude... what happened to full price for the stock + full wage for me selling it + benefits.