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asciilifeform: or the 10,000,001 journawhorez who helped the above 'unexist'
asciilifeform: or the nailgunned folks.
asciilifeform: i'm not certain that anybody cancelled the 'license to kill'
phf: for the good of the country and our fellow law abiding countrymen
phf: latest boind explained it for the rest of us, mi5 with their license to kill is out, gchq with their license to survey is in :p
phf: i'm just failing to grok how that article warrants an "A-ha!" moment, when there's basically an endless stream of ineffectual aha-s for 90 some years (as far back as i read about this stuff)
asciilifeform: but until very recently, the fiction was maintained that 'hackerz are a law enforcement matter'
phf: well, in that article their pretense is defense against the hackers, a "recognized international cyberthreat"
asciilifeform: (which really meant, wrecking su, so alternatives to the reich could not come to exist)
asciilifeform: prior to ~that~, they had half a century of pretense of 'defense against su'
phf: it was always out in the open, they just gain new powers. each cycle brings a new pretense with a new set of powers
asciilifeform: which is beginning to dissolve
asciilifeform: and my point was that, at least formerly, the genuine ideology was ~not~ in the open.
asciilifeform: but what when he saves the nigger from the tree, and beats the kitten.
phf: i don't know ~who~ you're explaining this to, but you're missing my point. nsa/gchq ideology is out in the open, so there's no need to read it into any random event. if a policeman beats up a nigger one day and saves a kitten from a tree another, there's really no reason to read "reinforcement of hegemony" into the second action, since there's the first one
asciilifeform: presently, the main preoccupation of the vermin is dissent and betrayal within own ranks.
asciilifeform: and in general, the prevention of honest commerce as a possible thing to exist.
asciilifeform: and, in particular, the prevention of mircea_popescus
asciilifeform: it means, approximately, the maintenance of status quo
asciilifeform: they have a phrase they use amongst themselves, 'societal security'. ☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: and heard them prattle on
asciilifeform: i have seen these folks in the flesh
asciilifeform: that's the funny thing, it isn't hidden at all.
phf: why look for hidden messages, when there are open messages available
asciilifeform: the lack of any ~actual~ foreign devils worth the mention is no longer mega-seekrit
asciilifeform: phf: the 'idiot mode' thing is a clanging cymbal to distract reader from the brick-in-your-face-obvious fact that nsa et al openly brag about their actual ('societal control') work and are shedding the pretense of 'defense against foreign devils'
phf: every other uber driver tries to pitch me on "uber for X" when they learn im in it.
phf: the story immediately goes into idiot mode, where they say GCHQ called up publisher over leaks, but "nobody knows what they would've done if that was a real leak". triangulated the internet of course
jurov: does the fagspital exist anywhere? here they want only blood, drawn hastily on some unholy morning hour
asciilifeform: 'In a radio interview last week, Nigel Newton of Bloomsbury Publishing spoke about how the publisher had employed strong security measures to prevent possible leaks, including guard dogs and a constant security presence at the printing press. Seemingly, the company also had the support of GCHQ, the UK's primary signals intelligence and surveillance agency.'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: one time, long ago, i pwned a sp4mz0r's box and it turned out that one of his pw's was 'balabusta'. i had the word in the back of my head ever since
phf: "I note from the IPS address template that certain parties – quite possibly of the Jewish persuasion – attempt from time to time to break into the site and destroy it."
mircea_popescu: makes no sense, of course, but then again genre fiction is genre fiction.
mircea_popescu: ie, all the "infected" humans get together into this huge swarwming mass to be avoided.
rithm: ethereum is still a thing?
mircea_popescu: incidentally, "the herd" is apparently a trope in the genre of "post-apocalypse/zombie invasion" copywriting.
asciilifeform: no, but there is a tremendous herd of captive cattle.
asciilifeform: who was it, who wrote 'market can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent'
mircea_popescu: gravity works the way it works ; entropy idem. it doesn't say you can't put things in orbit. it just says it won't be worth it.
mircea_popescu: sure, many things.
asciilifeform: has anything outlived mircea_popescu's fatwa by longer than the eth thing ?
a111: Logged on 2016-04-11 16:22 shinohai: https://i.imgur.com/eUrrFRh.png <<< lol this ETH chart
mircea_popescu: and in today's further installment of weird, http://www.seductivejewess3.com/type-id31-genya-sarah-golub/ (scroll down)
shinohai: https://i.imgur.com/eUrrFRh.png <<< lol this ETH chart ☟︎
deedbot-: [Trilema] The Fagspital - http://trilema.com/2016/the-fagspital/
mircea_popescu: i don't think you understand how teh world worx!
asciilifeform: and what is the 'omniscient' spybot of google for, if not to avoid the schutzstaffel thusly wasting its time ?
asciilifeform: does nobody read the logz.
asciilifeform got YET ANOTHER 'we would l0000ve to have you!1111' from usg
rithm: 30 minutes of voice, so little time so much to say and do
asciilifeform: (see old thread)
asciilifeform: it beat the shit out of the actual job i was doing previously !1111
asciilifeform: the interesting aspect is that this was a glorious and joyous thing, because...
asciilifeform: the korans were of a very spiffy edition that does not exist on our planet, every 'key phrase' was annotated in 6 languages, but only one of them was arabic, the 5 others i did not recognize as earthling scripts at all.
asciilifeform: in not entirely unrelatez nyooz, i had a dream that they passed out korans at the office, and bearded blokes walked around to inquire, regularly, how much each schmuck has read and understood.
mircea_popescu: you familiar with the concept that the more intelligent the subject, the larger share of his problems are of his own creation ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: except the thing i 'all nutso' ~about~ was the very notion.
asciilifeform promises that if he ever begs for spare change, he will do it under a d.c. bridge and not ever here.
mircea_popescu: he did not. i asked him if he'd take you, as a personal favour. because you were going all nutso.
mircea_popescu: most disputes as to physical reality resolve through some form of argumentum ad acceleratorum ; it stands then to reason most disputes as to social interaction will resolve through some form of argumentum ad slut hotel.
asciilifeform: 'how'd ya like to bike-commute to my injun farm'
mircea_popescu: the fact of the matter is that irrespective of how foreign, the gyneceum is in point of fact the matrix of a whole lotta things.
a111: Logged on 2016-04-11 06:03 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-11#1449999 << there's something that does : the people involved aren't sexually intimate. yes, slavegirls enjoy working in "open kitchen", often hands in same pot. nevertheless, if you had tried to mix them with their mothers / insufferable siblings etc, watch the fireworks.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-11#1450020 << i can't help but wonder if mircea_popescu actually thinks the inside of his harem is relevant to other people. i find it interesting, yes, but it is rather like the inside of a particle accelerator - not particularly related to any situation i am likely to ever encounter imho. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-04-11 04:48 ben_vulpes: at the risk of giving too much of the secret sauce away, first floor of the office surface-level looks like one of those "open plan" offices. except that desks are arranged around the perimeter, with monitors pointed out
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-11#1450000 << l0lz! ~this~ is where ben_vulpes offered me to work for table scraps at ! ☝︎
asciilifeform: i grasp how mircea_popescu might enjoy hunting idiots for sport from safe height of dirigible, and he has plenty of leisure for this, like medieval lord - but the time budget ~i~ have for idiots, is 0.
mircea_popescu: you don't understand how teh world worx.
asciilifeform: but the fermentation ought to take place in specially-designated barrels, not in my kitchen sink plox.
asciilifeform: they are welcome in my petrol tank
asciilifeform: hey i did not say i dun want them in my fuel filter
mircea_popescu: you know the story of the beanstalk that decided it will not interact with any evolutionary inferior aggregations of matter, but only the superior ?
asciilifeform: or tsetse fly
asciilifeform: i literally don't need them for anything
asciilifeform: there is this strange presumption, apparently shared even by jurov, that somebody looking for work is necessarily unemployed or underemployed and 'will do anything'
a111: Logged on 2016-04-11 05:47 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-11#1449953 << word. nfi when bois figured "the way to carrie" is to "be a recruiter" instead of w/e the fuck those schmucks in friends/cheers/whatevers are. "designers" or "writers" or whatnot.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-11#1450009 << literally 5min ago i got yet ANOTHER call from one of these imbeciles ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-04-11 06:50 phf: although there are two particular towns that are considered something of that, Uryupinsk and Muhosransk. first one is a real town, but second one translates as "town of fly-shit"
a111: Logged on 2014-09-07 17:32 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: sex anal cu tractoare, motocositoare si combine agricole >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mVOd8zY3D8 << 'in Flyshitte, in the Red Corpse Kolhoz... there lived Tractoresse!'
mircea_popescu: in other news, the article i'm writing now is titled "the fagspital"
jurov: looks like my reading comprehension went to shit :(
asciilifeform: in the heart of mordor.
asciilifeform: how did you get this idea ?
asciilifeform: jurov: why do you think this ?
asciilifeform: jurov: what makes you think i can afford to 'not earn much for few months' ?
jurov: asciilifeform: i was some time on freelancer.com picking nuggets that indians won't do (like adding mysql plugin in C, or fixing old perl ERP) and I wasn't earning much for few months, and then one of the people approached me with much bigger and $better$ project.
asciilifeform: (or, alternatively, i'm not 1333333337 enough by a long shot to know where to find it)
asciilifeform: 11:02 <+jurov> but then, why even have a job at all and not freelance? << because there is ~0 demand for what i do among folks who employ freelancers ?
a111: Logged on 2016-04-11 06:04 mircea_popescu: generally speaking, alienation makes untenable socialisation more bearable, which is why alienation is a DEFENSE MECHANISM! so yes, the shittier the job is, the more people want to "work from home". it never occurs to them that the problem isn't going to be solved by "finding the right tweak of the right knob", so they do what they do. as per above discussion of foreskin pullers.
jurov: but then, why even have a job at all and not freelance?
gernika: the telecommute *can* give one more time, as asciilifeform says - 60 hours a month. Health too - commutes are not good for you.
asciilifeform: at any rate, i can't do anything useful while in a moving vehicle, tried many times over whole life
jurov: seems you have hoard/spend bit, too
asciilifeform: nah they could come in handy for something.
jurov: so you don;t want to get rid of them anymore?
asciilifeform: and how do coinz enter into this, in so far as i'm concerned those are a nonrenewable resource that i carefully hoard, i don't get paid in'em
asciilifeform: i don't like being driven any more than driving
jurov: you can pay for train directly with coinz?
asciilifeform: jurov: this exists, it is called the train
jurov: btw, what about hiring some schmuck to drive you around for bitcoins?