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usagi: All I am concerned with now is providing 1:1 leverage with silver since I believe we are approaching a long-term bottom in silver priced in BTC

seongyupyoo: i would prefer to have a system that is good by design than have to hire people to watch over it

usagi: That's what I did with my company TU.SILVER. I have a registered CA looking at the books, and a highly trusted community member providing operational oversight

seongyupyoo: if i just leave it as is, i have incentive to make fake accounts and go on a destroying spree

usagi: That's essentially what your doing. It's like a late fee charged at a video store

usagi: so I would not try to justify how you do it, just state that you keep the funds "like a library fine" and leave it at that.

maximian: Bitcoin has a mechanism for multisig transactions - destruction isn't necessary

usagi: Oh nashx. Thats a good idea, if it works you will be rich.

kakobrekla: seongyupyoo, balances and txes are public and audiable... so transparency is not a big issue

usagi: So your goal is to make it legit.. and your not planning to quit, as a result of that? you will see this through?

seongyupyoo: where as if it was under mosaically umbrella, then it would be under a corporation

usagi: I'm trying to understand this, so, you want to run a mining pool?

ThickAsThieves: 1st problem seems like a non-problem with a non-solution

seongyupyoo: also i figured out a way so that nobody will ever have to risk 100 BTC

seongyupyoo: then i'd need to provide many transation id as a proof of destruction

seongyupyoo: i should start running a pool where i keep the transaction fee lol

seongyupyoo: well, if i send a lot of small ones, it would be hard for the traders to check their fund was destroyed

ThickAsThieves: you might want to send a lot of small ones

ThickAsThieves: because you might not want to send a 100btc tx fee

maximian: send 0.00000001 BTC to any address, and specify a fee of 99BTC

ThickAsThieves: you have to send an actual amount (i think) plus a tx fee

seongyupyoo: i'm just trying to clarify how to make a transaction

mircea_popescu: like, make a tx with 100 btc inputs, 1 satoshi outputs

mircea_popescu: 3 you could just add it as miner fee in a tx.

ThickAsThieves: you dont want to be a destroying coins

mircea_popescu: well, 1 justg send them to a fixed address like 1blackhole398759347589

mircea_popescu: A recent investigation has shown that the number of clicks on search results stemming from a given country correlates with the amount of investment in that country

asciilifeform: jcpham: idea: rape the algo traders who read this by implementing a contrarian algo

thestringpuller: haters everywhere, tell em to grow a pair?

gribble: Error: "tiocker" is not a valid command.

gesell: was from a long time ago

gesell: hmm... well i had a lot of orders at $88 that got fulfilled

KRS1: prolly a different exchange?

KRS1: look, its like this..this shit is nuttier than a port-o-potty at a peanut festival

pgp3: someone dumped A LOT of coin... jeez...

pgp3: just looked at chart... shit... a couple hours can be an eternity in bitcoin land... ☟︎☟︎

asciilifeform: don't look a gift horse... in the arse?

MJR_: and lol...there is actually a 3rd entry

MJR_: wow, talk about a time when context could really matter\

MJR_: To increase the liveliness of a horse by inserting an irritant, such as a piece of peeled raw ginger or a live eel, in its fundament.

mircea_popescu: "to feague a horse is to put ginger up a horse’s fundament, and formerly, as it is said, a live eel, to make him lively and carry his tail well. It is said, a forfeit is incurred by any horse-dealer’s servant, who shall show a horse without first feaguing him."

gribble: (ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg|--vol] [--currency XXX]) -- Return pretty-printed mtgox ticker. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure that the three letter code you enter is a (1 more message)

mircea_popescu: what are you like a kantian ?

mircea_popescu: jborkl there was a dude earlier telling me my article is out of date

asciilifeform: more like "prospiracy" (things that happen a certain way, because it actually makes sense, but having the appearance of purpose.)

mircea_popescu: dude everything's a conspiracy with you.

gribble: MtGox lag is 2.923985 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.00585963320143 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from Jupiter to its largest moon, Ganymede (0.007155 AU).

asciilifeform: even if he's a natural.

asciilifeform: rms above is a bad example. he has a "mad hermit" image (external and internal, as well) to maintain.

mircea_popescu: kakobrekla got a better one for you : http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/136685028116.gif

MJR_: anyway, people either avoid challenges or welcome them, that is a great heuristic for separating out those who will learn and those who will do what they are told

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: I'm more of a "reich der zwei" sort of guy

mircea_popescu: fuck, rms needs to be told to take a bath.

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i don't believe that separation is a matter of fact.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: don't know about you, but I would prefer a system that is up-front about the goal of separating people from meatpuppets, rather than pretending to do a million other inconsequential things

gribble: MtGox lag is 118.574281 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.2376215315 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin between Earth and Venus at their closest approach (0.254 AU).

mircea_popescu: sounds like a beating.

MJR_: just a small example

MJR_: i figured out how to use *nix systems because i didn't have a computer and wanted my iphone to do everything a computer could do

MJR_: i usually find that i learn the MOST when i have to solve a problem...no problems, no learning

mircea_popescu: my cto used to drive a truck for instance.

asciilifeform: "The world's best magician cannot pull a rabbit out of a hat unless he is already in the hat."

mircea_popescu: MJR_ then you're a gypsy racist

asciilifeform: "education" is a seriously abused word in application to the schooling of the masses. The root 'educe' being == 'to bring out.' There isn't usually much to bring out.

MJR_: that is a good first step

ThickAsThieves: as a species we are capable of absolutely anything, it's just a matter of when we decide to do so

MJR_: not because you want others to give you credit for having attended a school and paying tuition

mircea_popescu: will sit patiently in a glass waiting

mircea_popescu: it's a "rational agent", ie, like water : can be dammed, can be piped...

mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves the unions have a great idea on the subject.

mircea_popescu: MJR_ azns get the stick. a lot.

mircea_popescu: i don't propose this as a practical solution, mind.

ThickAsThieves: everything we do could be called a big distraction from self-awareness of our own mortality

asciilifeform: "with an ugh and a groan and a click of the heels, death comes quiet or it comes with squeals..."

asciilifeform: times table and lashes plus a real person = educated, functional; times table and lashes plus a meat pupper: expert at dodging punishment.

gribble: MtGox lag is 50.300903 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.100802446415 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ten times between Saturn and Titan (0.0802 AU).

mircea_popescu: jurov not as a theory.

asciilifeform: the kid is taught the times table to see if he is trainable. as witnessed by the fact that the times table continued to be taught, even in times and places where the people running the show don't give a damn whether anyone actually knows their times table.

mircea_popescu: MJR_ for that matter, people keep going "o, i dunno what good a philosophy degree would be IRL"

ThickAsThieves: yet i got a job that involved it and took to it quickly

mircea_popescu: age honored way is to go "either you learn this or i mash you into a pulp"

ThickAsThieves: use a more applied way of schooling

ThickAsThieves: admittedly i'm a bit more of an idealist, evolutionist

ThickAsThieves: yes, and we can do a better job helping them to do so

mircea_popescu: you can't expect them to self-motivate. if they had enough of a clue as to what's what they wouldn't need school.

mircea_popescu: there's a lot of power in the conservation instinct.

asciilifeform: any system of organizing society (education, work, whatever) that doesn't include a hard mechanism for separating actual people from meat puppets is doomed.

asciilifeform: the urban poor are a tremendous profit making engine for various industries (e.g. pharma: http://partialobjects.com/2011/06/staggering-thought-of-the-day/) into which oceans of money are funneled through them.

mircea_popescu: listen, it's very simple. kid today as 5000 years ago has to answer a simple question : why the fuck am i learning all this ?

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the us employers are forced into being a sort of government subsidiary.

ThickAsThieves: can we get a picture of you taking a picture of you taking a picture of yourself?

asciilifeform: drug testing is a multibillion-dollar business in the U.S.; arguably it is the employers who are the chumps here (they are bamboozled into thinking that it matters whether the fry cook smokes dope.)

mircea_popescu: motherfucker. got a new camera, has EVEN SMALLER USB

ThickAsThieves: is that a need or a preference?

mircea_popescu: it's a fact.

mircea_popescu: here's the thing : there's always going to be a class of people who need to be told how to live.

ThickAsThieves: how about a anthropological or philosophical perspective then

jurov: but had to wait for libertard who expounded for hour and a half

asciilifeform: " It is a curious fact that in America public assistance is only made available to the miserable and the downtrodden, not to those who are in need of some free money but are otherwise perfectly content. Although it is just as possible to be poor and happy in America as anywhere else, here one must make a choice: to avoid any number of unpleasant situations, one must be careful to hide either the fact that one is

jurov: omg, i was only admin for 7 years in a little company