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mircea_popescu: my socialism sees through corporate pretense. like the damned thing does by default, except in the crazy us implementation.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform bank clerk in charge of the particular real estate, sure.
asciilifeform: (in virtually all cases, the actual title holder...)
mircea_popescu: tax penalty = you get no offsets this year. or somesuch. you get bonus next tax bracket. something.
mircea_popescu: see, if ~I~ were running the socialist state, there'd be a tax penalty and a 6 mo administrative (ie, no judge involved) jail sentence for keeping property empty a full quarter.
asciilifeform: who ever heard of a vermin thinking 'i'ma only make 8 bux but do 10,000 worth of damage, i'd better not' ?
asciilifeform: (or hangs'em high from the hv masts which they - likewise - plunder)
asciilifeform: and it isn't as if anyone catches these folks, or the buyers, and pours molten copper down their necks
mircea_popescu: dude that copper thieve shit... used ac unit is 200 bucks, contains 8 bucks worth of scavengeable metal.
shinohai: So airbnb acquired Changetip. I guess now when people lose 67 cents sleeping on your sofa you can convert it to satoshi right there.
mircea_popescu: where did you find the redbeard ?
asciilifeform: btc-usd moar stable than my mains voltage...
ben_vulpes: there've been a few squats around town, but with the recent explosion in dirt-demand, they're all getting shuttered and replaced with apartments.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: often there is not a known owner
ben_vulpes: and not the property owners?!
asciilifeform: the city maintains the outside superficially so that it is not obvious immediately which they are.
ben_vulpes: and not because people price their houses sanely, no. but because apparently all of california is moving here and will buy at any cost.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: we have houses here that stood empty for years.
asciilifeform: and, aside from the item in the picture, is not in any seriously bad shape afaik.
ben_vulpes: or the place is a condemned dump.
ben_vulpes: turnover ~2weeks, unless there's a full renovation in swing.
ben_vulpes: tisn't how things work in my part of the world.
asciilifeform: ^ house stood empty for a few months, and copper thieves stole the heat exchanger coil
phf: oh yeah need to call grandma
shinohai sheds a tear for Yuri.
phf: i haven't but i'll add it at some point soon. didn't have a bandwidth to hack on anything non-trivial
asciilifeform: phf: the one where the logs url should behave sanely, i.e. not redirect to anything but to ~always~ point to the head of the log
phf: ;;later tell asciilifeform which bookmarkable log url thing?
asciilifeform: it reminds me of a dream i had once, where i was in charge of some kindergarten thing, and a ragged bum knocks on the door, outside - storms, rains, - 'quick, quick, i need to fry in your electric chair!' he gasps. i reply 'sorry, we only have a child-sized one here!' but he persists, squeezes himself in
phf: you mean the recent log bookmarkable url thing?
a111: Logged on 2016-04-12 05:55 ben_vulpes: more like "we don't make much over here, and you don't ride bikes, so i don't think this cult is for you"
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-12#1450407 << ben_vulpes this is iirc why the thread was so lulzy ☝︎
asciilifeform: ;;later tell phf didja ever make a bookmarkable log url thing ?
mircea_popescu: punkman i'm not advanced enough to mix my own ; generally just get premixed whatever greater minds think fit and proper.
mircea_popescu: where the fuck was that
mircea_popescu: o, recall the guy that made a passport pic of chetty ?
punkman: I don't really like the sweet neem thing, definitely don't use it in currys
mircea_popescu: hey, customers have come to expect.
asciilifeform: rname (previously unknown to the attacker) and a new password. ' << l0l!!
asciilifeform: 'Then they came to Namecheap where I have a couple of VPS servers, this account also had 2factor SMS authentication required for login. However the hacker opened up a live chat with Namecheap and requested a password reset for the SolusVM VPS panel, at which point, in a massive breach of their security protocols, they sent a plain text email to the comprised address containing both the VPS panel use
punkman: oic, guess there's a lot of different ones called curry leaves
mircea_popescu: no, that's the sweet neem thing.
punkman: it's a full on tree iirc
punkman: curry leaves are common in europe aren't they
mircea_popescu: then went and fondled the foot tall guys and omfg my kbd hand and everything smells like curry and im salivating
mircea_popescu: in other news, i planted something that was supposed to be "curry", which i had nfi is even a plant wtf, isn't that a spice mix ?
mircea_popescu: anyway, the longstanding rule has been that one can use whathever the fuck one wishes, and reap the benefits of maintenance down the road on their own ass.
phf: can always switch to sbcl overnight, harder to switch back, since sbcl like any high profile project attracts, accumulates and integrates cockroaches.
phf: but none is the answer to why cmucl, and i don't think there's one. mostly why not? it's a question of discipline for me, can i move slow and not freak out against deficiencies. i think that "looking for silver bullet" is just a waste of time, and there's no way that i can possibly explore entire cmucl solution space, until a whole new set of base capabilities is required
phf: there are some arguments now (and some successful projects) that solve gb/s with threads, but this whole idea that threads are a solution to gb/s ~in the compotent circles~ is a novel thing. schedulers are getting better, some patterns emerging, tooling is better etc. people coming out with "perhaps doing it with async is not best option anymore". but for years gb/s was achieved with async, reactor pattern, fork/exec
mircea_popescu: ahh this has been a pleasant convo
phf: tcp had non-blocking mode for a very long time
mircea_popescu: so he rewrites the tcp state machine in c, what :D
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: aha, but then some bozo added tcp to it
mircea_popescu: i thought lisp exiosts so you don't "Get a hang somewhere"
asciilifeform: lack of threads is a sure boat anchor when you get a hang somewhere.
phf: asciilifeform: threads are the worst possible solution to gb/s log demand
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform hey, in geek world the one-girlfriend guy is king.
asciilifeform: wait till there is GB/s log demand.
mircea_popescu: rare to see in lispen battle, a deployment of THAT tank division.
asciilifeform: (if a lang runs on unix box and can't pthread it is a toy)
mircea_popescu: yes yews, but to the other two objections you gave.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform hey, it's been known to happen!
mircea_popescu: pretty sure cmucl's not married to endian-ness. nfi about sanely written tho
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu was probably imagining something like the old crapple 'fat executables' that have 3 sections for 3 cpus
asciilifeform: all i want is for the jit compiler's back-end to be sanely written and not married to x86, and for there to not be weird endian dependencies baked in.
mircea_popescu: "can be ported to new cpu with minimal sweat" is not distinct from "windows claptrap one exe"
asciilifeform: rather than some mythical 'one exe for all boxes' winblowz claptrap
mircea_popescu: and you just admitted you don't want this.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: multibox means that the thing ~can~ be ported to new cpu with minimal sweat
mircea_popescu: so then what multibox support.
asciilifeform: (which imho is the Right Thing)
asciilifeform: phf: aha, commonlisp is unfriendly to the notion of an 'exe' in general
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: in the interest of fits-in-head - sure
asciilifeform: phf: it'd have to be something like sbcl's 'save-lisp-and-die'
phf: asciilifeform: i don't think lisps support cross-compilation in general?
mircea_popescu: security more a concern than disk really.
asciilifeform: you can always run a tree shaker and throw out the src you never intend to use.
asciilifeform: and sure, nobody makes you keep the thing around
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: suppose you want to cross-compile ?
mircea_popescu: suppose the language's compiled. the compiler has no reason to know about non-native microcode.
phf: mircea_popescu: von neumann machines are a lot more similar than dissimilar. difference between x86 and arm is a very thin layer
asciilifeform: what means 'native to' here
mircea_popescu: this is why i'm even using arm or w/e in the first place.
mircea_popescu: mk let's rephrase. if i used a non-x86 box i'd want the thing to be native for that box not an addon to x86.
mircea_popescu: im unconvinced multibox support is a good idea. if i am going to run on non-x86, i sure as fuck don't wantall the x86 stuff in there.
phf: i think since 2009 or so
asciilifeform: and, much as folks like to spit on it - unicode.
asciilifeform: there is also the support for various non-x86 boxen
phf: well, that's the only one that you keep mentioning, and i heard you about it :)
asciilifeform: i consider a general-purpose language without these, WORTHLESS
asciilifeform: motherfucking native threads, for one
phf: what are these "missing but necessary pieces"?
asciilifeform: it always struck me as a kind of 'bsd 4' - yes, 'hackable', yes, 'small', but the ~wrong kind of small~, the kind that will balloon into the same megalith as sbcl if you were to add all of the missing but necessary pieces. ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2016-04-12 14:46 phf: by day to day i mean non-lisp stuff, but yeah, even taking that thing live revealed a lot of annoyances in cmucl (asciilifeform will say told you so)
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-12#1450461 << phf remind me again what the hell the up-side of cmucl was ☝︎
mircea_popescu: "there's this open source project which is also a game and they're really into doing a partnership with a cs dept and would you wanna talk to them ?" works neh ?
a111: Logged on 2014-09-22 23:59 JuliaTourianski_: what projects in the BTC space do you guys like? if any...these conferences seem to be full of frat boys wanting to be men, with projects...many of which seem to be solving the same problem that doesn't exist.
mircea_popescu: and in today's random log link, http://btcbase.org/log/2014-09-22#841603 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: and on top of which the beauty of wot-access-control, perhaps nto apparent yet, is that if you're hit with something it'll be both complex and readily documented. as opposed to the faux-real-world, where one still gets 90% brute force ssh attempts and crap.