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BingoBoingo remind self to not plan a relapse
shinohai: https://s.graphiq.com/sites/default/files/984/media/images/t2/Mythe_Absinthe_Traditional_412042_i0.jpg <<< just got a bottle of this for bday
BingoBoingo: these things happen
shinohai: yeah only noticed the np after i had ctrl+v'd
BingoBoingo: shinohai: Pls no np links to reddit. Strip out the no so if people wanna manipulate voats with bots or socks they can without getting them banned.
davout: and re the hot wallet, kakobrekla sent it to me, and it was added to the 'currently under my control' part of the cash
a111: Logged on 2016-04-13 14:23 mircea_popescu: i let you know already! http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-08#1449011 and http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-08#1449050 and in general, if you're taking the weekend off or not you still have to read the log. at the absolute very least your own highlights ffs.
davout: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-13#1451077 <<< i have, hence the updated report i'm requesting comments on ☝︎
asciilifeform: (e.g., openssl must die; wallet must be cut loose and made to function sanely)
asciilifeform: there is a stupendous amount of work to be done, but unfortunately i personally do not have the free arms and legs to do it, currently
asciilifeform: much as i would like to see that cart move when i'm not actively pushing on it, thus far this has not been the case.
a111: Logged on 2016-04-13 17:09 mircea_popescu: but back to more prosaic concerns, hey mod6 ben_vulpes what's gonna be in this month's foundation report ?
trinque: phf: neat, thanks
phf: trinque: that's the entire bot mgmt code http://paste.lisp.org/display/313414
phf: trinque: actual state machine is a bit more elaborate, but atm incomplete. i'm writing it so that bot is entirely driven by the state machine, but right now only connected, ping/pong and disconnect parts are thought through
BingoBoingo: ^ From the not a typo department
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phf: it measures time since *last-pong* on each tick, and if more then some time passed it sends out ping with current time and goes into waiting-ping state
phf: and there's a state machine in a thread http://paste.lisp.org/display/313413
trinque: phf: what'd you end up changing in that ping/pong code?
mircea_popescu: but back to more prosaic concerns, hey mod6 ben_vulpes what's gonna be in this month's foundation report ? ☟︎☟︎
diana_coman: I'm still internally filtering a list of people I think might be most interested
diana_coman: jay borenstein, he's the initiator of Open Academy as far as I know (I don't know him personally)
diana_coman: and after an initial hackaton thingee
diana_coman: basically there is Open Academy that apparently works to some extent - by that I mean it gets some students to do something useful over a few months with mentors from respective OS projects
diana_coman: hmmm, borenstein is with stanford I think?
asciilifeform: diana_coman: at what school, i wonder, is any of that ~actually~ happening
diana_coman: and it kind of got onto me because of all this current academia apparent strive towards "using OS as a way to get students develop wider skills and be more ready for industry" stuff; see open academy etc
asciilifeform: but this is conjecture.
asciilifeform: also i suspect that the current crop of undergrads will barf - 'omfg1111, 1990s graphics!11'
asciilifeform: i readily believe this. but never having ~personally~ played, am not adequately qualified to make the case.
mircea_popescu: it seems rather obvious that a bunch of undergrads would prefer to hack on a game over any and all other possible tasks they could get. not sure this point needs further argument, but if it does, prolly the blockhead in question not fit for white collar work anyway.
diana_coman: asciilifeform, my not-yet-fully-formed idea was that it offers a. meaning hence interest from students b. active and responsive channel hence support c. wider experience (aka mystical "industry skillz" we need more of) d. (or overall) actually getting them into a wot that yeah, supports learning and not only tech either
mircea_popescu: in this sense no one could ever do anything. heck, i can't explain why roses are fun and enlightening either.
asciilifeform: i mean, if i had to explain how the thing is fun & enlightening etc i could not do a proper job, sadly.
asciilifeform realized that the idea ~very much is~ euloratronic, intrinsically, and as such asciilifeform is not the man to properly push it to skeptics face to face, not being a eulorist
mircea_popescu: jurov more or less bolted scheme on the thing from what i hear. some other guy whose programming experience consists of flash reskinned the client in a coupla days.
mircea_popescu: they can make a perl bot to bid in irc auctions ffs. anything they want, they can make.
mircea_popescu: they can make a smaller part ; or a method to do x. for that matter hooks are exposed and more or less documented.
mircea_popescu: they can make their own node.js client, who cares what tech they use.
asciilifeform: or likely ever again to be.
asciilifeform: yeah but in no remaining american school is that something c++.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you gotta give kids soemthign to do, right ?
mircea_popescu: win-win as they say.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Well the tools aren't there to replace it yet.
asciilifeform: how does eulora relate to this ?
mircea_popescu: can just meld it off eulora, get more class participation while watching more dr who or w/e tyhe fuck it is they do./
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform none of that. teacher has to make up a fucking teaching plan, and establish curricula and scoring criteria and whatnot. THIS IS WORK
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo sad but true.
BingoBoingo: AHA! mircea_popescu has a side effect of supporting the entrenchment of English through Eulora!
asciilifeform: or for profs to assign it as hw instead of etherium ?
asciilifeform: is this meant to entice kidz to hack on eulora ?
mircea_popescu: at the core it is - you get the chance to offload most of your actual work on a private company.
asciilifeform: yeah that part also confused me
diana_coman: I think what is difficult to grok at all there is what exactly (even in broad terms) is the offering - what is this millenium of code challenge at core
mircea_popescu: thinking of text in "ai" terms, the more complex the graph / strlen, the tenser.
mircea_popescu: seems a serious loss, as the convo is very tense in the original, and i doubt anyone but they involved even has the priors to grok wtf is being said.
mircea_popescu: on the other hand, i have nfi how to make it shorter. i guess the irc transcript could be made to go away ?
mircea_popescu: well on one hand shoving it under door seems a miserable plan to me. if you can't say to some guy "hey, look into this!" prolly best not molest 'em
diana_coman: fwiw I think asciilifeform has a point there
mircea_popescu: i have nfi how to do this ;/
asciilifeform: imho whole thing should fit on one a4.
mircea_popescu: well why i put the log in notes.
asciilifeform: imho the megalith-of-logz-with-notes only works when 'preaching to choir'
mircea_popescu: to get under the "hey this is too long for me to read - i'm in academia damnit"
mircea_popescu: i was going for this entire "keep it short and notify"
deedbot-: [Trilema] The Eulora Millenium of Code Challenge - http://trilema.com/2016/the-eulora-millenium-of-code-challenge/
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: your article is not very helpful to folks who neither know what is eulora nor can be arsed.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform well, it gets tiresome.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: not mega-seekrit, if i turn on a radio or tv set, 9 in 10 chance i hear precisely this wail.
mircea_popescu: it ensured their survival throughout otherwise very unfriendly history, and it is and likely will remain the central pillar of female socialisation and social behaviour. they wail.
mircea_popescu: there's this group behaviour, the female wail. go into a group and shoot one in the head. see what happens.
mircea_popescu: who the fuck asked a bunch of retarded 14 yo females anything ?
mircea_popescu: because the girls said so.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform when i was a kid in middle school, there was this red headed 14 yo that "everyone knew" was A TOTAL WHORE.
a111: Logged on 2016-04-10 15:58 mircea_popescu: it's these specific lobotomies that allow "certain kinds" of societies to function.
mircea_popescu: (now guess why puritans like to pretend like the brothel is damnation, notwithstanding it is intricately linked to all stories of individual success - take paris for your instance.
asciilifeform: what is the alleged/'wail' type of whore ?
mircea_popescu: also very cheap gauge. no need to risk your head - if the working girls don't worship you, best stay in school.
mircea_popescu: which is why whore (the real kind, that actually works - as opposed to what the female group wail purports) is in all times and places the young leader's best and most trustworthy ally.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform but this also makes you more likely to put in the work to tmsr.
asciilifeform: much less do them on free will
asciilifeform: just as i, employed as another type of whore, have to do things i otherwise would not even want to know ~exist~
asciilifeform: and yes, whore is paid to fuck folks she would not otherwise consider
phf: "eww, mcdonalds, lets go to tgis instead"
mircea_popescu: "ever wanted to eat couch airplane food on land ? HERE IT IS"
mircea_popescu: shitty chain of fast food pretending to be a restaurant
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mircea_popescu: ;;ud tgi tuesdays
asciilifeform: what's a tgi
asciilifeform reads mircea_popescu's thing
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform there are more confounding factors for whores. take simple example : you're paid to eat, but have to eat the food the sponsor pays for. what if you think tgi tuesdays is meh ?
asciilifeform: it echoes the price mechanics of, e.g., industrial equipment
asciilifeform is still thinking about mircea_popescu's revelation re whore pricing
mircea_popescu: or that.
mats: 30% drop over two weeks!1
mircea_popescu: hey, last time euro dropped 1% in a day, you couldn't get out of the fucking "o noes europe is teh end" usg agitprop
shinohai: thx as well BingoBoingo I never miss an opportunity to lol at ETH
BingoBoingo: shinohai: Thank you again.
deedbot-: [Qntra] Ethereum Foundation Outsources Forum To Censorship Experiment - http://qntra.net/2016/04/ethereum-foundation-outsources-forum-to-censorship-experiment/