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asciilifeform: back when i rode in buses, i was usually the only white face aboard.
a111: Logged on 2016-04-25 02:47 asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: much of the complexity comes from the paucity of airport
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-25#1457108 ~all , actually. pretty fucking hard to get two things to collide outside of the very narrow approach lanes ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-04-25 02:46 asciilifeform: (if the things were reasonably common, the order-of-magnitude diff b/w e.g., ohio and d.c. would not appear reasonable even to idiot)
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-25#1457107 << it would, yes. notice that even if the town has bus service, a TWO order of magnitude difference between what a meal costs appears reasonable even to idiots. ☝︎
asciilifeform: not even speaking of the air.
a111: Logged on 2016-04-24 22:37 mircea_popescu: yeah, minus the industry. they only kept the "jobs", which anyone has and as best as anyone can discern, consist entirely of paychecks.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-24#1456960 << if the folks showing up to 'job where there is only paycheque' were taken off the board, there would be quite enough room even on motherfucking 'beltway' (infamously congested road circling washington) ☝︎
ben_vulpes: the shares though, you have some
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: the bridge is for sale in nyc
ben_vulpes: you have a bridge too, right?
asciilifeform: run the numberz.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: there is quite enough space in the martian-desert states for this.
ben_vulpes: "oh but they would all live in the country with nobody around and each with their own runway!"
ben_vulpes: individuals can stay up for quite some time, but if you have any concentration of them taking off at 7a to get to work, there's your density-close-to-the-ground problem ☟︎
asciilifeform: with the treeline at the runway ? let'em.
ben_vulpes: falling derps is not the problem, it's collisions unavoidable due to relative speeds and human inability to a) perceive and b) react in time
asciilifeform: and your grandparents - were not flattened by falling derps in their cardboard flyingcoffins.
asciilifeform: usg packs them into tiny space, then yes, clearly, usg control is 'necessary' to keep'em from colliding.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i'm quite convinced that the difficulties of air traffic are artificial. ☟︎
asciilifeform: just the folks who can afford 80 hp flying. which ~ought~ to be a few %.
ben_vulpes: relative to car infrastructure
ben_vulpes: consider relative velocities and arc seconds involved tho
asciilifeform: ups the density.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: much of the complexity comes from the paucity of airport ☟︎
asciilifeform: (if the things were reasonably common, the order-of-magnitude diff b/w e.g., ohio and d.c. would not appear reasonable even to idiot) ☟︎
ben_vulpes: air traffic control on the scale of car-economy would be an utter nightmare
asciilifeform: i still think that small planes were bureaucratically strangled to avoid threatening the real estate racket.
asciilifeform: for a while folks really thought 'plane was the next car'
asciilifeform: the 'ercoupe' thing in the background is interesting. i live not so far from where the old 'erco' factory was, where the things were made. it was, iirc, a plane with simplified controls and extremely stable dynamics, for lamers to fly. sold like hotcakes, until the bottom fell out of the market in '47
asciilifeform: i feel hardly any envy for the joe stack folks of today, who spend an hour filling out forms for every 2 flown
asciilifeform: and, witness, pre-bureaucracy artifact - no radio in there
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo would approve of the old wood'n'cardboard'n'tinfoil airplanes - no lardarse could go up in it
mircea_popescu: and for this very reason no doubt.
asciilifeform: i found the thing incredibly appealing.
mircea_popescu: (computing engineering and airplane engineer have a lot in common - the fully visible thing is a security and maintenance thing. just like bash.)
mircea_popescu: and if you didn't play the harp just so, could very well end up fulfilling that motor's lawnmowing destiny.
asciilifeform: i wonder if davout ever went up in a machine like this
asciilifeform: there were literally no hidden parts but for the motor, which was a very modest 80 hp thing
asciilifeform: and could see all through fuselage (original, unmolested) all the way where they led into wing & tail.
asciilifeform: whole thing was moved by steel cables that you could actually ~see~ and grab, right in the cockpit
asciilifeform: it was interesting, thing was really no more complicated than a motorbike
asciilifeform: in other 'news', http://imgur.com/4nqeK3A << in a museum (hands on right hand side are of pet). one of the machines on exhibit was gettable into ☟︎
mircea_popescu: (anyone grinned at the ever, period pun ?)
mircea_popescu: suppose in some way you end up in possession of a world-renowned female for ther buttlove skills.
asciilifeform: not that i can presently think of.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so you're telling me that there's no possible configuration, context or circumstance in which you'd rather fuck girl in ass, ever, period.
asciilifeform: somewhere in recent trilema article.
asciilifeform: it's a fable from the fables of mircea_popescuaesop
asciilifeform: nor ought to try
asciilifeform: mats: that 'phriendship iz magick' or, in other words, you can't make the other kid give you the chicken
mats: hoped to sign on one day, to contribute to either s.nsa
mats: i didn't learn anything from the s.bbet story, no
asciilifeform: as in the famous jp midget tankz
mircea_popescu: jus' one of the rare cases where english diminutive obviously wurx
asciilifeform: the 'tanklet' existed also! танкетка, tanquette, or what in english world is called 'midget tank'
a111: Logged on 2016-04-24 21:59 mircea_popescu: and since we're on it... tachanka... tanklet.
asciilifeform: i've no use for the convex ones
mircea_popescu: wouldn't it depend on the manjka in question ?
asciilifeform: i confess i prefer the front.
mircea_popescu: mats i'd expect it to live neh ?
asciilifeform: (it is no mega-seekrit that mircea_popescu and i disagree on 1,001 things, yet he keep inviting me places. for the time being at least.)
asciilifeform: mats: i assume you learned something from the bbet story.
asciilifeform: mats: i cannot answer for the former, i have 0 control of it.
asciilifeform: mats et al: there are two s.nsa's. there is the mpex asset, which you were prolly asking about, and there is my actual work, which is to 0 extent actually enabled by the ~450 btc in the piggy, and will continue even if mircea_popescu one day drums me out of the chan
shinohai: ^ Doesn't look too promising BingoBoingo, I my redact that and call bullshit
shinohai: ;;later tell BingoBoingo http://ix.io/xxi
ben_vulpes: phuctor is phucking nao, mircea_popescu sounds pleased or at least entertained, so i imagine it's bought a stay from the divestment for a quarter...
a111: Logged on 2016-04-19 21:54 mircea_popescu: mno. at the rate we're going s.nsa is publishing a closure statement early may.
mats: but does s.nsa live or die? this is the question burning in my chest
asciilifeform: lel thats a chik?!
mircea_popescu: check out the aspiring triteness.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: pretty sure ms flight was written by 1 guy and they purchased it
asciilifeform: we had a joystick, funnily, but it never worked, brother bought it at outdoor blackmarket, we could find no port to plug it in 'iskra'. then in usa we ended up with 'commodore' and guess what - that thing fit...
mircea_popescu: i enjoyed it for this purpose.
mircea_popescu: about as bad as the shit apple came up with in the same period, you'd just look at it and wonder wtf is this
mircea_popescu: the ~only game made by classical microsoft (the shitshow that was trying to get windows 3.1 to be something) was a "flight simulator"
phf: oddly enough i've never played any games that involved flying
asciilifeform: made for 'trippy' memory of the gamez
asciilifeform: it went to the 1bit mono mode where the cga colour turned into dither
asciilifeform: buncha shit was unplayable until my brother wrote tsr util that diddled the video board when magic key hit
mircea_popescu: i mostly liked the bar scenes
mircea_popescu: anyway. liked f-19 but never played that muych either. just... rt not my cup.
mircea_popescu: actually 3do i thought ?
asciilifeform: space war thing
a111: Logged on 2016-01-02 20:21 phf: i like how the first one uses protective incantations. "henceforth and therefore ipso facto ... DATABASES!"
mircea_popescu: there was a peculiar "I am the X-approved candidate for Y supported by K L and M according to token Q and item W" idiocy i saved somewhere, lemme dig it up.
mats: it was all 'my mentor is now SVP at IBM', 'my cube-mate went on to work for former Intel CEO some-guy-i-don't-care-about', 'i learned so much working with the board at Silicon Valley Bank' at every tech, bidness conference i have ever been to
mircea_popescu: yeah, on one end of the spectrum. on the other, the very fucking grammar changes, with a lot of "the x of y" constructions, verbing of nouns, periphrase-by-metaphor and all sorts of weird.
mats: name droppers are the worst
mircea_popescu: it's ridiculous, at this rate the language will be mostly nouns before the century is out.
mircea_popescu: the most amusing thing re ustards is, the sheer volume of NAMED entities they need to produce as much as a paragraph
phf: well, not even a decenarian math containment then
BingoBoingo: Not that contained if you recognize Stallman
asciilifeform: realize, almost every named ustardism mircea_popescu digs up, i end up having to look up
asciilifeform: eh the latter still worx
mircea_popescu: nor a general spiteful distance from all of them.
mircea_popescu: well somehow. you're not an anthropologist. as a result, you don't have the ability to pick any random culture you wish
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i was spared all of this somehow..
mircea_popescu: oh the gothic fiction. yeah. prolly better quality cunts than the norm.