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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's not MY observation ; but the girl's. i personally neither agree nor approve.
a111: Logged on 2016-05-05 13:14 mircea_popescu: it has been the observation throughout the ages that intelligent people are only happy as slaves ; which is how that whole "behind great man - great woman" thing got started ; or why samuel clemens had to get his daily spankings in wife's bedroom.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-05#1463352 << ahahaha the traditional 'i am mircea_popescu, a demigod, and all ~you~ lusers oughta be in cock cages, puny mortals' ☝︎
punkman: gonna work on the gwern archives later, feel free to suggest any interesting things too look for while I'm searching for gpg keys/messages
phf: so i got 38479 users, i'm going to download their keys, and then perhaps rerun the crawler to see if anyone else comes up
mircea_popescu: now THOSE people should probably be notified.
mircea_popescu: and speaking of neurotransmitters : the most reliable sign of opioid intoxication is decreased respiratory rate. a rate less than 12 where intoxication is a possibility (ie, not outright impossible) practically guarantees it's the case.
shinohai: "Dear Elon Musk, please fund an expedition to settle once and for all the argument of whether or not the moon is made of cheese of petrified ejaculate from space giants."
a111: Logged on 2016-05-05 13:13 mircea_popescu: how do you know the moon isn't actually made of petrified ejaculate ?
shinohai: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-05#1463343 <<< I'll apply for a grant and research this. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: it has been the observation throughout the ages that intelligent people are only happy as slaves ; which is how that whole "behind great man - great woman" thing got started ; or why samuel clemens had to get his daily spankings in wife's bedroom. ☟︎
asciilifeform bbl, sitting on the stake
mircea_popescu: now THIS is entirely within the skull.
asciilifeform: whereas my actual situation does default to defeat and misery, because that is the actual physical space i live in.
mircea_popescu: again : the problem of reacting instead of acting is that you'll necessarily be a muppet.
asciilifeform: the moon does not default to spoodge in my head.
asciilifeform: i am not seeing the victories.
mircea_popescu: how do you know the moon isn't actually made of petrified ejaculate ? ☟︎
asciilifeform: how do i actually ~know~ that any of what we do makes a difference outside the skull ?
mircea_popescu: enemy can fuck with that.
mircea_popescu: and as to the bear and his honey, the moment before is called the endorphin shock.
asciilifeform: i end up in the pigsties (bock, reddit, etc.) when i begin to think that the alternative is really a solipsism.
mircea_popescu: but there's something wrong when the brain parasite takes over the brain, and you start pursuing nonsense at the expense of your wealth, your health, your sanity and eventually your life.
asciilifeform: but it was considerably more rewarding than digging the bocks.
mircea_popescu: for lulz, for the evulz, for whatever the fuck.
mircea_popescu: now, there is nothing wrong with this if engaged in for sport
asciilifeform: i also used to dig in junkyards tho.
asciilifeform: l0l this begins to make sense.
mircea_popescu: it's ridiculous, stop doing this.
mircea_popescu: except there's a price! so you pay the price... except... it's ransomed en route... so you... etc
mircea_popescu: for instance : the seclist has a hottie (you think, for absolutely no reason - have you seen her tits ? there are rules for being a hottie, you know ?)
mircea_popescu: the sad fact here is that you personally fall for this scam ALL THE FUCKING TIME.
mircea_popescu: so then - C wants the hottie ; but the hottie has a blood price. so C pays. except the price is kidnapped on route, so C pays ransom, except hottie falls ill etc etc
asciilifeform: (money also has legs but they are short and caterpillar-like and thus not perceptible to untrained eye)
asciilifeform: aha, where the value has legs.
mircea_popescu: now then. the russian bride is a peculiar variant of this scam, where the value transferred is not pecuniary, and thus encounters "troubles".
mircea_popescu: but they all reduce to "more fluff to make it easier for C to swallow the faux identity painted over a difference"
asciilifeform: the thermodynamic 'taboo against the coincidence' is described in, oddly enough, winnie pooh! '"Well," said Pooh, "what I like best," and then he had to stop and think. Because although Eating Honey was a very good thing to do, there was a moment just before you began to eat it which was better than when you were, but he didn't know what it was called.' ☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: so S sends C you a check ; thereby transferring to you the form of some money ; but not their substance. C proceeds to send S a wire, thereby transferring the form and the substance ; C is out some money.
mircea_popescu: not all these dts are exploitable in practice ; but all are exploitable in principle.
mircea_popescu: the way the scam works is that the settlement of substance.money does not in fact coincide with the settlement of form.money. this because there's an absolute thermodynamic taboo against coincidence.
mircea_popescu: the form of money is obvious, in the sense of the taste of food being obvious. it produces expected reactions in the senses.
mircea_popescu: the 419 scam is a particular arbitrage of the knowledge problem. the way it works is that money in modern society consists of a substance and a form. its substance is hinted at by the "aml/kyc" bs, which is a whole other pile of lulz we won't be getting into here. you prefer to refer to it as "X couldn't own rembrandts" internally.
mircea_popescu: you know what that is ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform let us study this problem together, working on the basis of a 419/russian bride scam.
asciilifeform: i'm still at a loss how to properly separate this concept from full-bore solipsism.
mircea_popescu: the principle of the thing! you don't fucking top me from the bottom ffs!
mircea_popescu: what's next ? i'm going to show online sub why i should be her master ? am i under the influence of brain parasitosis ?
asciilifeform: skin not worth the tanning?
mircea_popescu: their choice, let them make it.
asciilifeform: so show'em this.
mircea_popescu: ah, the readers. why do they read there ? they could read here.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you perhaps still entertain this delusional hope that man is what he wishes to be / sees self as.
asciilifeform: not the folks posting!
mircea_popescu: and i would estimate absolutely none of the people there should be here.
asciilifeform: there are the castratos.
asciilifeform: some of whom prolly ought to be here.
mircea_popescu: the only problem is that even if you put the effort into bowdlerization, you will not obtain a result better than i do ; because the "formal test" is actually devoid of substance.
asciilifeform: that particular list is quite popular among thinking folk.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: then consider applying your methods..?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform that's nonsense. mircea_popescu is a matter of substance, not form. what oyu call full bore is merely an aggregate of stylistic choices i prefer [and i prefer them enough to put above the needs of others, because i simply don't care enough about unknown others], but otherwise it has an infinity of formal homomorphisms, and necessarily an infinity of those could match any arbitrary formal test.
asciilifeform: well, full-bore mircea_popescu prolly would not pass the mod
mircea_popescu: how's this a trick.
asciilifeform: well the trick is that it's a heavily censored official organ
mircea_popescu: the best policy is to fucking decide if you're gonna or not gonna ; and then do or not do. doing sorta halfway is painful. even to watch.
mircea_popescu: you know, you can be trained to do this right ; you're intelligent enough. but it's a slog, and it's also a lot like learning to play an instrument.
asciilifeform: the pig was there!
mircea_popescu: doh. did i not tell you ?
asciilifeform: i go and engage with the motherfucking heathens,
hanbot: group projects, in most people's hands, need no further reasons to fail
a111: Logged on 2016-05-05 03:20 mircea_popescu: i suppose eventually they couldn't stand each other anymore or somesuch
a111: Logged on 2016-05-05 03:09 mircea_popescu: the complaints are poor decision process, lack of transparency etc. i wonder if the actual valuable contributors packed and left the various hanno bocks, bob becks and other undesirable politicos behind.
deedbot: [Recent Phuctorings.] Phuctored: 3600611471329672289855022328627 divides RSA Moduli belonging to 'Marcus Benjamin <markymac99@mac.com>; Marcus Benjamin <markymac@charter.net>; ' - http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/3F884718CC1F7BBD6425044BB98EB5128654EC09BB8F8D8FFE2F4EFA26F4CC53 ☟︎
mircea_popescu: i suppose eventually they couldn't stand each other anymore or somesuch ☟︎
mircea_popescu: all analysis seems to point to the whole substance of that thing being based on a very tooth-and-nail neoprotestant stubbornness of collective action.
asciilifeform: something let the air out of the thing, and the denizens dispersed to the four winds
mircea_popescu: but what happened to their home island of caspiar ? it fucking sunk ?
a111: Logged on 2016-05-05 02:57 mircea_popescu: e previous point, he's got a rationalist amulet to protect him from things!), but also i notice - that lesswrong thing is essentially dead, isn't it ? one wiki edit (his), "0 points" throughout whatever that may mean, recent posts nobody cares about, latest diary from February, 5-th most recent blog from last month etc etc. i thought there were many idiots in this thing, turns out it's just a handful of derps that meanwhile f
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-05#1463233 << pet informs me that 'there is a lesswrong ~diaspora~, self-identified, in a buncha places, even tumblr' ☝︎
mircea_popescu: depends on the tumour.
a111: Logged on 2016-05-05 03:09 mircea_popescu: the complaints are poor decision process, lack of transparency etc. i wonder if the actual valuable contributors packed and left the various hanno bocks, bob becks and other undesirable politicos behind.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-05#1463243 << quite unlikely. you can't just take a tumour off like a knapsack and get up and go... ☝︎
ben_vulpes: a us bank is willing to touch customer keys? o.O
mircea_popescu: the complaints are poor decision process, lack of transparency etc. i wonder if the actual valuable contributors packed and left the various hanno bocks, bob becks and other undesirable politicos behind. ☟︎☟︎
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: once again for teh illiterate?
ben_vulpes: dag that's some /jew/
mircea_popescu: e previous point, he's got a rationalist amulet to protect him from things!), but also i notice - that lesswrong thing is essentially dead, isn't it ? one wiki edit (his), "0 points" throughout whatever that may mean, recent posts nobody cares about, latest diary from February, 5-th most recent blog from last month etc etc. i thought there were many idiots in this thing, turns out it's just a handful of derps that meanwhile f ☟︎
mircea_popescu: he usual crap] ; it doesn't occur to him that while this is true, the expectation that "all the people" are a sort of given, and polyamory must be applied TO them, as they are, warts and all, as opposed to THEM being applied to it, through an extrudation process which substantially changes THEM, as just so happens to be the absolute historical norm both in theory and in practice - but hey, he needn't know this anymore than th
mircea_popescu: http://lesswrong.com/r/discussion/lw/9p9/open_thread_february_114_2012/5v6g << i followed this link off the guy's page ; turned out to be exactly as worthless as expected (take the most glaringly obvious point - he protests that polyamory practitioners are rich powerful valuable people [which he can't confront so he has to mangle up in terms of skin color etc, which doesn't make him a racist because rationalism or whatever, t
asciilifeform: and imagined what their 'trips' might feel like.
asciilifeform: when i was a bored, sn0r3d kid, reading usenet, i sometimes read the dope groups
mircea_popescu: ah, and obviously - fully dedicated to "safety in tor"
asciilifeform: it is ~also~ possible that he ate nothing.
asciilifeform: it is in the logz - this is the pill that mircea_popescu wouldn't even notice if he ate.
mircea_popescu: maybe that's just the official truth.
mircea_popescu: it boggles the mind, what nonsense people can sell themselves on, for lack of friends and anything useful to do.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform he's not JUST into lesswrong, wikipedia, bla bla. he's also convinced "darknet" is relevant in general, that a bunch of inept shitheads were "a cryptoanarchist revolution" and, wonder of wonders, that the pill poppers had some sort of impact in bitcoin whatsoever.
asciilifeform: model has proven remarkably durable despite the constant wearying turmoil of exit-scams and hacks and as I write this in mid-July 2015, there seems to be little chance that things will change substantially soon. (If Tor hidden services are cracked, the DNMs will simply move to I2P or Freenet; if Bitcoin starts getting too easily tracked, transactions will be settled in Monero or another cryptocoin with better anonymity properties, et
asciilifeform: 'I'm no longer as interested in the DNMs as I used to be. I was originally lured in by the fascination of watching a small cryptopunk revolution, and I was hopeful that it would go beyond the SR1 model into multisig and beyond. But we have seen little multisig usage, and that augurs ill for the distributed marketplaces. (What if someone built a trustless distributed blackmarket and no one wanted to use it?) Instead, the SR1 business
mircea_popescu: i almost prefer the vapid floozies. to hear these schmucks " I feel like this post deserves a montage or a slideshow with music. So much reminiscing and joyful sadness. ", makes my skin fucking crawl.