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asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: actually i might have what you want ( supposing i correctly apprehend what you wanted. ) it was called 'harvard architecture', i even have a few here, it was once popular in single-chip fiddycent microcontrollers
phf: mircea_popescu: well, in that case there's no value to lisp ~at all~, since the bulk of lisp advantage comes from this fact. but pretending that you somehow can get not-this with a turing machine results in what we have now
phf: mircea_popescu: that whole data/code equivalence is one of the core (advertised) principles
mircea_popescu: and in other "i have no idea if alf will think this is a human face or no", http://68.media.tumblr.com/ec2b3b3a67382908205ac498e1fc22ab/tumblr_o84ox08CwI1uu3p4bo1_1280.jpg
a111: Logged on 2017-07-08 07:23 sina: mircea_popescu: I am guessing tmsr is not fond of things like JSON or YAML
mircea_popescu: at least ben_vulpes was pushing it that way.
phf: mircea_popescu: i think you could design a pretty straightforward discovery protocol once you decided on the wire. we can see this process with irc bots here
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: except that the monster lang never fits in any head.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: depends on the item, neh
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: possibly
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in crumblandia, http://68.media.tumblr.com/338b84922777ea8da27086a07da01077/tumblr_ordlzd96P81uya9i0o1_1280.jpg
a111: Logged on 2017-07-09 08:36 mircea_popescu: in other lulz, i took girl + car out on a survey of local brothels tonite.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> lol lynched to death. what other kinds are there, lynched to orgasm ? << Well there's the incomplete version which is just a beating
a111: Logged on 2017-07-09 03:18 mircea_popescu: can take the ram from the crapple and put it in the pc or camera or w/e
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-09#1680872 << no, would among other things, have a standard for expressing structure metadata. see information_schema for a bad example in idiotlandia, or WSDLs for even worse, or... ☝︎
mircea_popescu: and in other "unlike my mom, i'm actually good at what i do", http://68.media.tumblr.com/f4278e64cf59227db1d18fe4e0c5459a/tumblr_opv3456GKV1qilbqfo1_500.gif
a111: Logged on 2017-07-08 22:31 mircea_popescu: one doesn't follow from the other.
mircea_popescu: and meanwhile at the rancho correcto cocksucko, http://68.media.tumblr.com/a0f030f386bd4c45ef2b7b40bedc133e/tumblr_mr6dx93W6E1rxn0tjo1_1280.jpg
sina: mircea_popescu: suggestions on avoiding ad-hoc datatypes? one idea I was thinking was for example rather than ../messages/<msg_hash> file with contents "sender,delivered_by,message", have a directory ../messages/<msg_hash>/sender|delivered_by|message files?
a111: Logged on 2017-07-08 00:44 mircea_popescu: a breadboard is, for electronic circuitry, exactly what a general purpose db is for programming.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> "i don't know, baby... we'll have to ask your father..." << lol. cuckdad may want in too!
mircea_popescu: but in other teen issues, http://68.media.tumblr.com/ab5bbea07c6980664a38d8f081687c4b/tumblr_o8m5pi5a2C1uw19aqo1_1280.jpg
a111: Logged on 2017-06-13 15:17 mircea_popescu: and this model ENTIRELY explains all of the "luminaries". werner koch worked the feeder-chumper cycle. stallman worked the feeder-chumper cycle. curtis yarvin worked the etcetera.
mircea_popescu: but alright, let's get back to basics then. http://68.media.tumblr.com/e5bd4ea1b58dcd51b5e907a09fd4de7c/tumblr_osjxauzx6I1v2rgrno1_1280.gif
mircea_popescu: meanwhile @shopping, http://68.media.tumblr.com/6f4052f9a62eb621d5369b59e1e7f08d/tumblr_olnkldFYU21s4dxj3o1_1280.jpg
sina: still needs a tad work to make the code a bit easier to read and finish model.delete_peer()
sina: mircea_popescu: still around?
sina: mircea_popescu: I am guessing tmsr is not fond of things like JSON or YAML ☟︎
sina: if its a matter of moving a key from keys/available/???.key => keys/assigned/name_of_peer_assigned.key ...or symlinking as you mention
sina: for the assigned keys, it seems fine to have a directory like key/name_of_peer_assigned.key
sina: mircea_popescu: do you have 5-10m to discuss the filesystem thing re gossipthing
sina: mircea_popescu: http://paste.sina.id.au/
sina: oh yeah, the other day, inspired by ben_vulpes wotpaste I made this in golang https://github.com/sinner-/tinypaste
sina: looks like this now: 2017-07-08 05:54:50|delivered_by:*local|sender:sina|hello world
sina: fair. names are limited currently to [a-zA-Z0-9_]+
sina: mircea_popescu: "self" just signifies the message was published into the local messages list by the local client itself. suggestions are open for other ways to signify same, e.g. if you think the entry should simply be blank
a111: Logged on 2017-07-08 01:11 mircea_popescu: the amusing part not yet picked up (i was expecting alf to jump) is that... it has inband encoding. "self" is a special word!
mircea_popescu: and in other gateways, http://68.media.tumblr.com/b83ff7af950e69b8ed32a2bb05c1ee0c/tumblr_opsq7iDY4U1v5qo9eo1_1280.jpg
asciilifeform: i'm already on record as having described, in agonizing detail, why it is a monumental waste of time, but if mircea_popescu et al not convinced -- welcome to 'piss on electric fence'
a111: Logged on 2017-07-08 02:31 mircea_popescu: this locks into an older discvussion re bitcoin fs, which was iirc still stalled at perf-ing the various available fs thoroughly for massive directory/file usage.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: tru!!
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: ( dare i presume that you want the englisch )
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: https://www.sefaria.org
asciilifeform not dedicated aficionado, ben_vulpes will have to dig for himself
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: there's an ipnoje version etc.
mod6: and as far as pete_dushenski or whomevers quest to write a log digest or whatever, it never happened. the foundation briefly considered a role for gathering up trb related parts, but that was set aside in exchange for tb0t
asciilifeform: iirc it was pete_dushenski who compared to talmud.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: you could write an entire mega-essay re subj, they are legion
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: gotta love these
asciilifeform: i'll go ' this one time mircea_popescu and asciilifeform had mega-dispute about planar tilings, where was it... or did i dream it ' and 6 hrs later..
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: hexdump -v -C
a111: Logged on 2017-07-08 02:07 mircea_popescu: mod6 i used to enjoy the luxury of multipass reads through the log. but it's under threat these days
a111: Logged on 2017-07-08 02:01 mircea_popescu: certainly above qs could have been asked just as well by a noob, and vague "large threads" reference dun help him any.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-08#1680532 << at one time we had a fella ( pete_dushenski ? ) embark on a 'major life and times of the l0g' thing. what became of this ? ☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ikr? i was having tea and saw l0gz and 'wtf'
mircea_popescu: and in other real dollies, http://68.media.tumblr.com/a72431bb9683fd3181791b292e410b95/tumblr_oqv0v1DHGW1sd72xuo1_1280.jpg
mircea_popescu: mod6 there's a part two of our show : http://68.media.tumblr.com/949f80bdc5e21cf0d317e4f5b5a3b369/tumblr_oo02vdxVUK1rat4opo1_500.gif
sina: mircea_popescu: I guess the gist of the question is really, how is implementing my own btree different at all to using the pretty much identical thing in sqlite
mod6: mircea_popescu: daang.
mircea_popescu: and speaking of locks, http://68.media.tumblr.com/47ddf0e0d49eaf4cdafb9e5af8e0287b/tumblr_oo02vdxVUK1rat4opo2_500.gif
mircea_popescu: in today's "bro, does she even lift?!?", http://68.media.tumblr.com/07cb6203aad968e0f035cacb3a1d5fa9/tumblr_mizikdktI41s4ukh7o3_1280.jpg
sina: mircea_popescu: but still even in that case I need to "walk" the list of assignments, looking for ^available, so I need to use grep or write a iterating-finder-thingo myself and then something like sed to change the line or write a text-changer-at-a-line myself
mod6: mircea_popescu: re, logs, inline-pr0n helps too :D
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> 2017-07-08 00:06:57|delivered_by:self|sender:urmom|ugachuga << lel @ this message, and it seems to work!
asciilifeform: unless mircea_popescu has a very odd, martian meat comp
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the only accurate , useful model, is 'player piano'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it is possible to form a realistic mental model, of computer per se. but far less so of 'optimizing' claptrap.
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: LGP - 30 - Wikipedia: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGP-30>; LGP - 30 - Ed Thelen's Nike Missile Web Site: <http://ed-thelen.org/comp-hist/lgp-30.html>; Librascope LGP - 30 - CHM Revolution - Computer History Museum: <http://www.computerhistory.org/revolution/early-computer-companies/5/116>
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: waiwat
sina: mircea_popescu: re pseudocode is exactly how I view it
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: dbus is a poetteringism
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: dropping it into a pyturd gives 0 useful result -- becomes nonconstanttime , potentially
mircea_popescu: do it in v so eg ben_vulpes can just merge it in.
sina: ok, thanks for validating mircea_popescu, tearing down the shithost
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: mIRC : Internet Relay Chat client: <http://www.mirc.com/>; mIRC - Wikipedia: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIRC>; mIRC - Free download and software reviews - CNET Download.com: <http://download.cnet.com/mIRC/3000-2150_4-10001733.html>
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i also dun see why not irc-driven. protocol fits on index card, and no need to write it again with shoestring and dead squirrel
mircea_popescu: 2017-07-08 00:06:58|delivered_by:sina|sender:sinatron|hello worl
mircea_popescu: 2017-07-08 00:06:57|delivered_by:self|sender:urmom|ugachuga
sina: mircea_popescu: ssh root@45.77.66.53 in two windows, one 'gossipd'. other 'gossipc --send-message --source whoever --message whatever' and then 'gossipc -g' to view msgs
sina: mircea_popescu: you wanna play with this gossipthing yet?! otherwise I'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: their www seems to be one of those 'onion to http converter' things
mircea_popescu: EIC https://anarplex.net/hosted/files/secondrealm/blog_post.html << the obvious objections being that formally this reads just like yet another ustarded neoprotestant "i heard there's a world yesterday and here's how to fix it" tract, as so many before starting with abolitionism and aparently never endingly ; and fundamentally that "autonomy" is utterly naive. i do not permit autonomy my slavegirls, in the sense they don't ge
a111: Logged on 2017-07-07 23:21 mircea_popescu: you mean #trilema ? here's a part of the magnificent new tech of the republic : you too can be just as old as everyone, as soon as you get arouind to it!
asciilifeform: but meanwhile, from asciilifeform's 'vintage USEFUL material' file, http://programming.sirrida.de/bit_perm.html .
a111: Logged on 2017-04-27 18:59 mircea_popescu: inb4 us medical profession wakes up to the sad fact that the raise in autism has nothing to do with ~organic~ causes. the kids just don't like the environment any, opt out.
a111: Logged on 2017-07-07 15:03 mircea_popescu: this pretty much sits at the core of the whole dispute. by "fit in head" tmsr simply means "do not engage irrelevant complicacy". complicacy serves as a term of art here, to denote things that are constructively complicated, as opposed to the naturally complicated. what your woman means when she speaks is complicated ; but marriage is complicacy.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> "you know belinda ? the tall one with fake tits ?" << lmao
asciilifeform: https://www.bountysource.com/people/19615-gabriel-laddel << gabriel_laddel_p -- yours ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i sent g_l a surplus 'x61', complete with pen. not a bad box, though weathered
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel_p: did it work for what you were doing ?
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel_p: yer welcome
deedbot: gabriel_laddel_p voiced for 30 minutes.
asciilifeform: !!up gabriel_laddel_p
asciilifeform: didn't mircea_popescu have an article re greece, where, 'if idiot throws money into a toilet, he is doubly idiotic for expecting to see it again' or how did it go.
a111: Logged on 2017-07-07 15:27 mircea_popescu: the matter of disciplining the us population into 90% consumption cuts and 50% productivity gains over the next three to five years is not even vaguely contemplated, amusingly enough.
a111: Logged on 2017-07-07 15:27 mircea_popescu: the matter of disciplining the us population into 90% consumption cuts and 50% productivity gains over the next three to five years is not even vaguely contemplated, amusingly enough.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> at least the argentards had this in their press, back in 2014, editorials and shit about how "the international neocapitalists" try to make them work moar and waste less, and how THEY ARE ORGANIZED AND WILL RESIST!!1 << Prolly wouldn't make it past typical US head plugs
erlehmann: asciilifeform i think mircea_popescu may be onto something with awareness of transitions. there was this one organization for sucide help (something swiss) and many people who get greenlighted by them actually do not kill themselves.
erlehmann: mircea_popescu thanks for link to article about social meaning of train suicide
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