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asciilifeform: could check that the curve had been generated from the seed. Since SHA-1
asciilifeform: function SHA-1. Given the seed and its associated elliptic curve, anyone
asciilifeform: cients of an elliptic curve were derived by passing a seed through the hash
asciilifeform: special class of curves, a simple procedure was devised whereby the coeffi-
asciilifeform: 'To ensure that the NSA-generated elliptic curves did not belong to a very
asciilifeform: e. People were stunned. In those days the NSA representatives at standards meetings would sit quietly and hardly say a word. No one had expected such a direct and unambiguous statement from the NSA. The ECC standards were approved.'
asciilifeform: 'The nontechnical industry representatives on the ANSI committee were impressed by the RSA argument. As the heated debate continued, the NSA representative left to make a phone call. When he returned, he announced that he was authorized to state that the NSA believed that ECC had sufficient security to be used for secure communications among all U.S. government agencies, including the Federal Reserv
asciilifeform: 'The first time the NSA publicly and decisively gave support to ECC occurred at a meeting of the American National Standards Institute (ANSI) in December 1995. The backers of RSA at the meeting were casting doubt on the safety of ECC-based protocols; in the mid-1990s a page called “ECC Central” on the RSA website carried statements by leading personalities in cryptography that characterized ECC
asciilifeform: quite possibly, these folx read the logz.
shinohai: MAy as well shutter the DEA now
trinque: shinohai: I can add css to whichever tags you need styled
shinohai: trinque: am I missing something, or I cannot format like this: http://i.imgur.com/7s2ZFyD.png?1
shinohai: For now just going to strip all the old stuff to basic parts and go from there I guess.
shinohai: yeah working on wiki stuff trinque ... trying to learn clwiki formatting, of which there seems to be little
asciilifeform: https://www.pgpru.com/servisy/packetdump << they have a pgp packet dumper, but it seems to barf on anything i give it
asciilifeform: yah well in that sense worx great, a++++
mircea_popescu: still fucking overflowing, to this day, 15 years later.
mircea_popescu: it's not supposed to work in THAT sense. fuck the orcs, who cares. it's supposed to work in THIS other sense.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: another minor l0l, https://www.pgpru.com/forum/rabotasgnupg/gpg4wincherezanusrasshifrovyvaetkirillicu << all the orcish font support is for naught, gpg4win craps out rubbish when used with cyrillic
asciilifeform: but crying in the right direction!111
asciilifeform: not quite, mostly folks crying into their drinks
asciilifeform: (whole forum is like this. found it via phuctor reflogz)
shinohai: k, thanks
shinohai: Quick question twiw: Does deedbot operate on the same L1 & L2 scheme as assbot did?
deedbot: [Trilema] Vasile, c'est tout. - http://trilema.com/2016/vasile-cest-tout/
mircea_popescu: you can tell by the face ?
asciilifeform: that face - no theorems.
mircea_popescu: shinohai is that gord ?
mircea_popescu: so... no. tis not teh women's fault in any sense.
mircea_popescu: all the worship of one gender by the other does in practice is sink that other, moldavian men are some of the most miserable, whiny, incompetent and discapacitated dudes you'll ever see. almost gypsy level (and guess why gypsies - much like niggers btw - are cowardly ? yes it's because female worship, of fucking course).
davout: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-10#1465428 <<< can't wait for the "plane" version ☝︎
mircea_popescu: not even any man specifically, manhood as a transcendental superiority. visible in how seventeen year olds behave in public to a larger degree than the insolence of anglos is visible ; visible throughout.
mircea_popescu: http://olegbumbac.blogspot.com.ar/2012/05/normal-0-false-false-false-en-us-x-none.html << maybe interesting to the esl crowd that earnestly believes "western decay" is "woman's fault" because they somehow oppress males or are feminazis or whatever : the supposedly independent republic of moldavia exhibits the EXACT opposite atmosphere (like many ex soviet sattelite provinces, actually, orcland). the females are outright worsh
mircea_popescu: seems to be ok
mircea_popescu checks this out
a111: Logged on 2016-04-30 01:13 mircea_popescu: mod6 could graph be vertical rather than horizontal alligned ?
mod6: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-30#1459548 << mircea_popescu, so would a Left to Right orientation be alright then? ☝︎
mircea_popescu: grunts on the ground need the fucking model, because muscle memory.
mircea_popescu: if the fucking chopper pilot needed a lifesized model to land his bird...
mircea_popescu: eh, i imagine it must utterly suck to work pr for the usarmy etc. you're stuck reading the internet, this unique mezclado of pointed ignorance and cured coincidence.
asciilifeform: perhaps they forgot that the real scene does not fold to fit the chopper...
mircea_popescu: "accurate" in this context does not mean "geometrically identical to rando tourist with a camera", but "of such configuration all scripted scenes can be filmed without visible difference". you can fold it, which is what they did. burbank does the exact fucking thing all the time.
mircea_popescu: these people are idiots. the mock-up is accurate.
asciilifeform: incidentally might ask archive.is why they ssl.
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell gwern hey, you around ?
mircea_popescu: why thank you. and speaking of dubiosenii,
asciilifeform: ask them, not me.
mircea_popescu: why the fuck even bother with https already. it's insecure, we know this.they don't even cursory make an attempt. what's next, go on tor ?
mircea_popescu: somehow nobody makes any hay of the fact that THE SERBS WERE INTERCEPTING NATO MILITARY COMMS. IN 1999!
asciilifeform: (y'know, the place where the carcass was stored)
asciilifeform: i still wonder why cn forgave the 'accidenting' of its embassy so easily.
mircea_popescu: experimentally, intelligent girls they forget to teach about how they're creative and can't learn math accidentally learn math just like normal human beings. idem intelligent boys they forget to teach they should be shy and inept do just fine. in other news, http://i40.tinypic.com/69i0dz.jpg
asciilifeform: no matter if there is no one else around.
asciilifeform: recall the chimp cage in the zoo ?
mircea_popescu: but they teach girls to "not can" math with the same instruments.
mircea_popescu: the difference being that there's good anatomic reasons for female physical weakness ; there's no good reasons whatsoever for intelligent kid social ineptitude.
mircea_popescu: it's a typical behaviour of the weak (which is how women end up so ensconced in the general aspic of stupid womanhood), that's veheheeerily carefully cultivated by socialist/female society.
asciilifeform: ah l0l! the grinding wheels !
mircea_popescu: this usually overlaps with the subset that has any chance at getting any.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no. it's the sort of kid that seeks approval in school.
mod6: i need to look again,but have handsfull at current second
asciilifeform: on 2nd thought i never said precisely where.
mod6: hrm. must have mis-remembered that
a111: Logged on 2016-05-09 23:50 mod6: this would be possibly because of integration of stan's ideas about heart/eyes/hands/brain, etc.
mod6: <+asciilifeform> http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-09#1465348 << imho none of this needs to be ~in~ v. << yeah i gotta re-read all of this stuff again. ☝︎
mod6: alf: congrats on the quitting
a111: Logged on 2016-05-09 22:27 mircea_popescu: as i age i'm simply rediscovering what i knew as a nine year old, which is, that i really can't stand "smart kids".
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-09#1465312 << not sure what it has to do with 'smart kidz' though. it is really more about folks who have been behind the barbed wire for too long, of whatever level ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-05-09 23:20 mircea_popescu: because he purports to misrepresent reality, and worst of all - the reality of his own fucking experience - in castrato terms. o really, "elitism is bad" ? fuck you. if you believe that, how come you're here ?
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-09#1465316 << not why i linked it, but this is a point. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-05-09 23:50 mod6: this would be possibly because of integration of stan's ideas about heart/eyes/hands/brain, etc.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-09#1465348 << imho none of this needs to be ~in~ v. ☝︎
shinohai: I like the framework, simple no nonsense
mod6: Thanks for getting him going trinque, this is most important work. And salud to you for providing the framework!
mod6: He's already plugged in and doing things with wiki.deedbot.org :]
mod6 tips his hat to shinohai
mod6: i'm getting closer with that part, just trying to make the graphing a bit better.
mod6: i'll y to make some steps towards getting a genesis going -- gotta get through this `t' stuff first tho
mod6: and perhaps thats better anyway.
mod6: although, i haven't done enough thinking on this yet to actually have a plan or anything. just throwing that out there.
mod6: i also think that V might get a huge overhaul perhaps.
mod6: mircea_popescu: ah yeah. some of this crossed my mind.
mircea_popescu: (this, incidentally, has some interesting interplay with key updates - suddenly in a V world, the principal reason to get a new key is, "i'm sick of all tyhe old bullshit, wanna take a year off and rebase everything. here's my new key.")
mircea_popescu: no reason to rush it, no. but still... hasta be done :)
mod6: i guess i don't see much of a reason to rush this
mircea_popescu: although some pretty major cataclysm is needed to invalidate a genesis. you can just patch it into correctness downstream neh ?
mircea_popescu: and then they'll use the new one.
mircea_popescu: the only way you'll ever find out it was wrong would be through people using it
mod6: and it's actually quite hard to get people to use it it turns out.
mod6: well, i guess i was hoping that more people would use it.
mircea_popescu: this has ~never stopped nature, has it ? hence byproducts like trump, obama, clinton, bush etc.
mod6: but for instance, let's just say that everything about the graphing or whatever things were being discussed this weekend were wrong.
mircea_popescu: will have to be done eventually. ☟︎☟︎
mod6: <+j-dawg> mod6: just curious - why you have not published v patches in v? << yeah, i feel like, it's not yet mature enough to warrent its own genesis.
mircea_popescu: gtfo already. it never was a game, it was always rape, and we always raped them. what "not a game anymore".
mircea_popescu: all the bullshit about a very faux, miserable definition of "ethics" - no, ethics is pointedly NOT what he thinks, not anymore than capitalism is what the us runs ; all the bullshit about how "it's not a game anymore" as if a) it ever was and b) the losers, ie, "law enforcement", derpy marketeers and generally the feminine enemy is possibly ever in any manner even conceivably winning anything...
mircea_popescu: the intimation that losing it means you've "grown up" is particularly pernicious. you don't "grow up" by going bald. you just grow old, is all.
mircea_popescu: generally this "why can't we all get along, you don't really HAVE to hold your legs crossed like that in the subway, not REALLY, do you" bullshit readily irritates me.
mircea_popescu: if you're a woman you can be a cow. if you're not, there's nothing. that's it.
mircea_popescu: the only option for the non-elitist, other than feeding the worms immediately, is a life of hypocrisy. there is nothing above, beyond or outside of elitism