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ben_vulpes: my foul mood has nothing to do with childrearing
mircea_popescu: if it makes you feel better, my parents were about your age when they were blessed with the wonder that is i.
mircea_popescu: hey, it's the first day of the rest of your life
ben_vulpes: davout even i think was older than i for his
ben_vulpes: ergo find new friends who are also doing the same.
ben_vulpes: i am possibly the youngest hipster /deciding/ to have children. this means that none of the other hipsters want to be friends any more, because what sane person with hobbies etc hangs out with married and children.
ben_vulpes: tanning tanks still reek as ever
mircea_popescu: incidentally danielpbarron mind showing the i'll pay for tits thing to https://twitter.com/aella_girl thx ☟︎
mircea_popescu: so you've impregnated both the wife and the mistress and they're cooing in unison ?
asciilifeform: no moar wwwtron warehouse with piss tanks ?
ben_vulpes: but hey the girls are helping each other nurse already so the project moves forward
ben_vulpes: that'd tend to imply the marching of people to the kibbutz
ben_vulpes: she is childproofing and driving the kibbutz incubation project quite nicely thank you very much
ben_vulpes: and /i/ soaked the scale
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: no /i/ spilled the coffe
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes anyone ever told you you've got housewife problems ?
ben_vulpes: Framedragger: that's more a baseline requirement
ben_vulpes: spilled the coffee, soaked the chinese shitscale
mircea_popescu: Framedragger was mostly confirming your assumption. yes, if the motherfucker goes to indochina i want a nigger there hiding in a bowl of rice ready to suck its pubkey down.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: well. i guess the spider could could include a ipv6 address crawler to populate a ipv6 address list. but beyond that?
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: teething isn't really my problem
Framedragger: and visits http://motherfuckingwebsite.com/ more often than should admit
mircea_popescu: what happened this week ? teething ?
ben_vulpes: magical tank of wine with particles of shit that is still drinkable somehow?
mircea_popescu: i read it to mean he doesn't use django.
Framedragger is a non-bullshit wwwtronicist, depending on definition. are you folks looking for some clean www read-only interface to a db? sorry for much interjection
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform well, ben_vulpes has been making noises about things ; for one. maybe mike_c is bored, who knows. till you ask you don't know.
mircea_popescu: i dunno, you're pretty talented, or at least i liked your www output :D
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ah. so are we looking for a wwwtronicist at this spot ?
mircea_popescu: Framedragger just make sure you add the ip to your comment.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-20#1469732 << because i am not a wwwtronicist. the thing does not intelligently generate the web crapolade from the db in any way, it manually and agonizingly 'if phuctored then display this-here colours' etc. ☝︎
Framedragger: so, like, presumably, one would want keys of ssh servers that are behind *all* routable public ipv4 addresses?
Framedragger: but kk, it's clear it's not relevant to current effort as current effort is about factorization of rsa keys
mircea_popescu: that;s a call up to you as a putative eventual lord of teh republic neh ?
mircea_popescu: then what's the point of factoring it ?
Framedragger: i think so, yes
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: of course. :) btw can i assume that ecdsa keys are not of interest? only rsa?
asciilifeform: not purging, but further entumouring, there isn't a way to do it cleanly
mircea_popescu: myeah. will take purging. sorry for your loss.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the most complicated piece is the www crud
mircea_popescu: Framedragger many thousands read teh logs ; not everyone speaks, or directly. the republic shades a much larger area than meets teh eye. nothing wrong with that either.
mircea_popescu: honestly asciilifeform i'd much rather if phuctor held a table consisting of e,N,comment,pgp_crud1,pgp_crud2,etc. should be indexed by hash of first three fields. should not depend on the trailing fields existing
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: that was useful. so btw this fromphuctor__, i take it he hasn't much reappeared. was good idea, his
jurov: okay. the ssh format is blessedly simple, not much to convert
mircea_popescu: Framedragger see http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-02#1461422 and around there. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: ah. and you were calling this later "convertor" ? whereas i was calling the former.
mircea_popescu: ok im well confused. so jurov : you have a thing that takes ssh keys, spits them out as e,N,comment lines in a csv. that right ?
jurov: but we can't have selfsigs, only the key
Framedragger: openpgp is bulky but maybe not that bulky
Framedragger: oh maybe rfc4880 in itself does not include a whole certificate bloat thing. ok
Framedragger: jurov so the convertor does the whole "create x.509 certificate" thing etc? nice nice
Framedragger: the convertor converts keys into some kind of tmsr rsa format, then?
mircea_popescu: 3) publish the results somewhere so alf can scarf them
mircea_popescu: 2) process the results on some sort of periodicity (daily ?) with jurov's soon to be published convertor
jurov: https://www.shodan.io/search?query=ssh there's also this, but access to raw data is prolly paid
Framedragger: i suppose i should search logs for previous discussions? unless anyone wants to give a more particular summary? spider as many keys from as many hosts running ssh as possible?
mircea_popescu: Framedragger the task is 1) create a spider that connects to all servers/routers/anything that takes a ssh connection, and asks for key. there's an example given in the logs coupla weeks ago that prolly can be taken verbatim and improved as needed.
Framedragger: "also, anyone want to run a ssh server key spider ?" << heh, k, i'm up for this, might as well be useful while i brood ☟︎
mircea_popescu: but hey, on the upside you;ll be able to take the button out.
asciilifeform: prolly i am doomed to rewrite whole thing again...
mircea_popescu: principally in the form of "keys aren't pgp format, but tmsr format, of which ssh, pgp and others are idiotic restatements"
mircea_popescu: so this will have to be catered to.
mircea_popescu: that may be ; but the problem here is that politically, we do not wish to recognize rsa is owned by pgp.
asciilifeform: the thing is pretty solidly congealed around pgp.
asciilifeform: 2) hash of moduli AS THEY APPEAR IN PGP FORMAT
mircea_popescu: so far i'm trying to understand what specifically the db is like.
asciilifeform: no it is also a pgp key turd, that is re-parsable to obtain all of these
asciilifeform: try to understand how special cases make complexity of a proggy explode. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: wtf is in that key, a date, an email, a name and a comment
asciilifeform: as per the structure of the db
asciilifeform: this is not even a thing.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform and if it finds only the comment field and the rest null it dies ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: yes. but when a key is phuctored, it expects to find the fields associated with a pgp key in the requisite db table.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo jesus wtf is wrong with these imbeciles.
mircea_popescu: also, anyone want to run a ssh server key spider ? ☟︎
mircea_popescu: jurov can you publish the convertor you used somewhere for later reference ? like your blog or w/e ?
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell punkman yo
gribble: Error: The "Later" plugin is loaded, but there is no command named "punkman" in it. Try "list Later" to see the commands in the "Later" plugin.
mircea_popescu: so there were three : get the github keys - jurov did it ; get the ssh server/router spidering going, and convert. iirc nobody was doing this ; get pgp keys out of the gwen / sr dump. punkman was hm where is he.
mircea_popescu: well... i guess you make a tmsr - to - rfc 448866221133massachussetts convertor.
asciilifeform: not the least.
mircea_popescu: and it is at this juncture we discover alf doesn't actually have that implemented yet :D
asciilifeform: wai these are converted already ?
mircea_popescu: phuctor eats well today!
Framedragger: hahah. oh i *bet* that wears you off after a while!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform well they did send children on a crusade once...
asciilifeform: iirc ships of fools were already common parlance even prior to sebastian brandt's 1400s mega-b0000k
mircea_popescu: these schmucks think they're all part of the cast of friends.
Framedragger: parliament, say, is often referred to by durnių laivas, as well as the whole country, its populace, etc; same with "kaimas" being used interchangeably with populace
mircea_popescu: they get tiresome.
mircea_popescu: alrighty, so it's basically a durnish laivas that thinks itself the capital [of the world].
Framedragger: or are you referring to some actual place?
Framedragger: can't think of a specific word - there's a notion "idiots' ship" - durnių laivas - and also: the whole word "village" (kaimas) has very clear connotations of idiocy, in and of itself, and is used thusly sometimes
mircea_popescu: what's the idiot village called in lithuanian folklore ?
mircea_popescu: the place is great for the first months. then the idiocy of the population starts to wear you down.
Framedragger: oh that was before you moved
Framedragger: didn't you say something to the tune of "i'd like to die here" :)
Framedragger: it's nice to hear that argentina is a livable place, then. i enjoyed the pix on trilema fwiw
Framedragger: yeah glasgow is a student population to a degree, quite so, and that is indeed nice
mircea_popescu: warwick castle was epic, but finding something you'd stick your penis into was ~impossible. i was stuck with imports the whole time.