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asciilifeform: Mocky: unrelated q -- are qataris fixated on precious metals, like in dubai ?
asciilifeform: good q -- what's their notion of charity, anyway
asciilifeform: lol
asciilifeform: hm so not like turks, then..
asciilifeform: Mocky: cat is a++ mohammed-approved beast. biznis d00d oughta have opened a cat biz.
asciilifeform: aaah western women
asciilifeform: anywhere
asciilifeform: Mocky: out of curiosity, didja see even one dog ?
asciilifeform: ( what's next , pet pig rescue in israel ?? )
asciilifeform: diana_coman: ikr? it's the last thing i'd think of pitching to dar-al-islam ☟︎
asciilifeform: Mocky: funnily enuff, it's how i deal with americans..
asciilifeform: thus far sounds like typical savages, with both plus and minus, won't buy 'how to dig well' but will buy musket.
asciilifeform: but i'ma let Mocky elaborate, possibly diff will become clear
asciilifeform: diana_coman: hmm, from my reading seems that they won't pay anybody for 'which screw' , gotta also supply a physical talisman they can hang on wall
asciilifeform: possibly will be a tough audience for the traditional type of consulting, where you '$ 1 : turned screw $499,999 -- knowing which screw'
asciilifeform: Mocky: sounds like they're perfect candidates for selling iron to, rather than softs, then
asciilifeform: Mocky: is the implication also that they dun bother to look into totalcostofownership before buying ? hence the legends of bedouin sheiks buying a merc and leaving it in desert when fuel tank empty ..? ☟︎
asciilifeform stands up ears, tunes in
asciilifeform: and come to think of it, i dun think i've used mine in several yrs.
asciilifeform: afaik the only thinking folx today with copy of 'flash' are , like asciilifeform , running it on dedicated winblowz leprosorium, specifically for unpacking virii which require it...
asciilifeform: whereas 'html5' past ~decade of graphical browsers will mostly display (if with eggogs)
asciilifeform: they're distinguishable ~only in that 'flash' at this point requires elaborate gymnastics to run, involving pretty much sacrifice of a whole box (sorta like java)
asciilifeform: but for the most part crapple succeeded in exterminating flashism ( to replace with own 'html5' abortion )
asciilifeform: somewhere, on some forgotten www, prolly even 'shockwave' lingers
asciilifeform: ok as i thought, ty
asciilifeform: lol afaik even the heathens have largely forgotten flashism ☟︎
asciilifeform: diana_coman: which item in your 'shelf' contains the most recent keccak , to go from ?
asciilifeform: billymg: on list of 'definitely nobody in his right mind will use' -- sslism comes to mind
asciilifeform: if your thing is bookmarkable, and readable in 'curl' output, it's generally healthy.
asciilifeform: ( various heathen sites routinely 'load content dynamically' etc )
asciilifeform: e.g. building a www that doesn't correctly display when put through archive.is , is evidence of having done something dumb
asciilifeform: there aren't really explicit lists of 'don't's, the philosophy is really 'don't do obviously dumb things'
asciilifeform: (afaik nowhere else)
asciilifeform: js is used pretty much entirely for mircea_popescu's linkable-text-selection thing
asciilifeform: billymg: most folx have multiple boxes, for different occasions, with diff contents
asciilifeform: ( iirc there's even somebody with early 2000s 'opera' )
asciilifeform: billymg: pretty much errybody uses 'lynx' at least occasionally, and sometimes ordinary graphical browser
asciilifeform: loads
asciilifeform: oh hey
asciilifeform: really, keccak oughta be doable in-place. but i haven't loaded it into my head yet and cannot immediately say how to rewrite equation so that it could
asciilifeform: aite, will wait for full postmortem
asciilifeform: phf: what does your ulimit -s say ? mine's 8192 kB
asciilifeform: Mocky: what sorta humans ?
asciilifeform: http://www.runivers.ru/bookreader/books/18669/0005.gif << oblig illust.
asciilifeform: 'И, склонясь в дыму кальяна На цветной диван, У жемчужного фонтана Дремлет Тегеран' (tm)(r) !
asciilifeform: aah hm.
asciilifeform: i'm curious what it was that overflowed it tho
asciilifeform: will have to check
asciilifeform: possibly my stack is set smaller than yours ?
asciilifeform: it will have to be cured at some point, keccakization currently eats 8x moar memory (9x if counting the fact that it cannot run in-place) than it ought ☟︎
asciilifeform: phf: not sure yet, the bytes->bits bloatism might get in the way
asciilifeform: i was on a box without the standalone keccak, so tried to use vdiff to get keccakization
asciilifeform: ha
asciilifeform: try it yourself, the 40M snapshot txt from last night was the trigger
asciilifeform: and it happens prior to any output
asciilifeform: phf: it's an ada stack overflow, so almost certainly in keccak
asciilifeform: really mmap is the champ for disk i/o on unixlikes.
asciilifeform: bonus, will run substantially faster.
asciilifeform: ( once i finally shit out the cleaned/reground/keccakized genesis thereof, it's near in the conveyor )
asciilifeform: there is of course another method, keccak could use my mmap thing
asciilifeform: iirc can even be set machinewide, but i fughet how
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: imho yes
asciilifeform: errybody oughta see exactly ~same~ output.
asciilifeform: adventurous souls who can spare ~hour of CPU, are invited to shit out own snapshot, and diff w/ above.
asciilifeform: !Q later tell phf plox to snarf http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2018-October/000315.html into 'experiment' tree.
asciilifeform: ( for the impatient : http://nosuchlabs.com/pub/trb/snap_546400.txt ) ☟︎
asciilifeform: ( and yes mod6 it will have to be reground, but it experimental patch, so this is not avoidable at any rate )
asciilifeform: meanwhile: ACHTUNG, PANZERS! >> http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2018-October/000315.html ☟︎
asciilifeform: there is not a magical way out of this on linux, sadly.
asciilifeform: but , importantly, will have to arrive at a max, if using stack.
asciilifeform: it's a fairly simple fix, as i understand, gotta up the max stack
asciilifeform: !Q later tell phf i found today that your keccak-vdiff is unable to eat a 40MB file ( dies politely with stack overflow ) ☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: ACHTUNG, panzers! zoolag going down for ~30min for test of experimental patch, in ~10m
asciilifeform: and come to think of it, tech #1 did look rather like a 'ows' ...
asciilifeform: finally vendor sends an actual tech, who fixes and takes pics, then reveals 'oh him? he was a fraud'
asciilifeform: srsly! d00d showed up to fix leaking condensate drain, took 3 (!) trips to... not fix anyffing, ceiling drip, drip
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i had one of these not long ago !
asciilifeform: imho it was great
asciilifeform: whatever happend to http://summaries.logs.esthlos.com btw ☟︎
asciilifeform: i'd buy a troo b&w crystal in a heartbeat, but nobody afaik ever made'em in usable ( http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-08#1859393 ) or near, res, or in such a way that'd electrically fit any available box ☝︎
asciilifeform: extinct afaik
asciilifeform: 235 x 143 mm .
asciilifeform: https://www.elinux.org/images/3/3f/PQ3QI-01.pdf << datashit. (sorry , pdfolade )
asciilifeform: the only mass prod / gettable one , is pq3qi-01 .
asciilifeform: test unit here is 'n150' .
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: best as i can tell, nuffin but samsung n30, n150, lenovo s10-2 (but not s10-3, i opened one and no dice, cabling too short) will eat the thing.
asciilifeform: it's moar or less ideal box for expeditions into deep orcistan. but to work on it all day would be pretty painful.
asciilifeform: the 'qi' crystal has '90s-style viewing angle, too. coupla degrees left or right and it's ~half visible. i suppose for some applications this, too, is win
asciilifeform: at least i can only with difficulty picture anybody wanting to steal it..
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo : it's pretty much exactly like those things sold in the sunday market in BingoBoingostan
asciilifeform: in moar minor noose, http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-18#1863610 is a++ display but pretty sad box, i forgot just how rubbishy these were, cramped kbd with coarse molded plastic feels like sumthing straight from toy store, touch pad thing is the size of 2 postage stamps, arm rest creaks... ☝︎
asciilifeform: they own fleets.
asciilifeform: Mocky: herr baron himself aint 'limo driver' tho. even in nyc most medallion owners do not themselves drive cab.
asciilifeform: Mocky: afaik pilots already live with ~exactly this system
asciilifeform: what's an extra 100k on a 2mil lambo
asciilifeform: usa is a peculiar horror, with little-to-no reliable public transport in most places; but pretty much errywhere else, could easily do as above
asciilifeform: re drivers -- why not, e.g., combine license and taxi medallion. wanna drive ? register as driver, buy medallion, dun have to carry passengers or paint livery on 'cab' if you dun feel like, but pony up.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: stalin pioneered
asciilifeform: picture, roads where transport actually moves...
asciilifeform: ( norway ? )