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Framedragger: mircea_popescu: merely point out
that
the "root layer of
the universe structure" may be a blocker on
this bug. but
the root layer has needed a paddlin' anyway..
a111: Logged on 2016-06-01 14:09 asciilifeform: (and i will add
that no public implementation wrote it correctly, either.)
a111: Logged on 2016-06-01 14:02 Framedragger:
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-31#1474264 <<
that's nice, but doesn't
the beloved cramer-shoup also use hashes?
their scheme,
to quote, "requires a universal one-way hash function"
mircea_popescu:
than fought, yelps" is yet again obvious, and for
the hundredeth or so
time will pass unheeded, i guess.
mircea_popescu: and so
the matter settled : what started on may 25th as a slight disparity between
the usg faux bitcoin exchanges
trading at 448 (bitfinex isn't inclued here, having nothing
to do with bitcoin altogether) while btcchina was reporting 455 (and 2/3 of
the
total volume), eventually peaked out at 510/580 (with btcchina still doing 2/3 of
the volume) and eventually settled at 530/540.
the moral
that "you should have yielded rather
mircea_popescu: so electricity is like, <4 cent / kwh commercial in alberta ? who
the hell knew,
that's pretty good mining pricing neh ?
☟︎ mircea_popescu: moreover, you heat on a .5 kwh/sq foot basis ?!
this article is
too mysterious for me.
shinohai: The best was
the `no 'Web of
Trust' needed` comment. He refused
to read
the relevant
trilema article
that I sent him obviously.
shinohai: Final count was like 13 messages and 5 PM's just because I pointed out
tmsr did it first. Props
to deedbot
mircea_popescu can already picture
the kid in question, 19 yo pakistani with a few online freelancing projects under his belt "spreading out" etc.
a111: Logged on 2016-05-31 23:33 shinohai: Judging from
the flurry of messages I'm getting I
think I
triggered someone.
mircea_popescu: o it's pretty
thick, "terrorists must not be permitted
to provide".
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform except
the life insurance payout is not
the guy's.
shinohai: This will be attempt
to set said precedent
mircea_popescu: so what's
the logic, "this guy pissed us off, his FAMILY
therefore must not get reimbursed for losing
teh means of support etc" ?
shinohai: It's ok for
the USof A
to collectively punish people, but not N Korea, etc ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform oh
that's how you meant. i just reload a current page, yeah.
a111: Logged on 2016-05-31 19:50 Framedragger: aha,
then i guess you don't really enjoy
the fact
that gpg uses aes for session key actually? :)
mircea_popescu: the same sort of
thinking informs it everywhere, and it's
that sight most loathed in nature,
the mental squid of an engineer!
a111: Logged on 2016-05-31 19:46 asciilifeform:
this is 'minsky's dark room' all over again.
a111: Logged on 2016-05-29 14:21 mircea_popescu: and
that finally
there is absolutely no reason
to implement arbitrary division in
the machine, nor does such idiocy exist in nature ;
that
the correct machine representation of numbers is FRACTIONS not fucking "decimals", and
that computers
that natively support bignum up
to
the size of memory and execute gcd in hardware aren't either particularly hard
to make nor
their absence
to date excusable.
a111: Logged on 2016-05-31 19:36 asciilifeform: for instance, i used
to be able
to read
the log by hitting 'reload'
mircea_popescu: i have nfi what
the fuck
they do
to
them in school anymore.
mircea_popescu: that
there's your market, entirely. one cuts, antoher picks. it only works in
that context.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform would you believe
that i quit, never
to return, an assembly of esteemable finance heads when in congress
they didn't agree, nor couldn't understand, why exactly "to split any item
to
two parties : one cuts,
the other picks" is not only equitable, but
the only equitable method so much so any other method is derived from it, and equitable only in as much as it's similar.
mircea_popescu: a market is a poor substitute of either foreign policy or governmental
theology.
mircea_popescu: let's walk
together
through
the history of
this fine "market"
thing, if we shall. so, it solved "the problem of feeding people", with hfcs. nice. and before
that, it solved "the problem of
trading in china". with opium. and before
that...
mircea_popescu: and for
the
things where market - enjoy your corn syrup,
the market chosen solution.
mircea_popescu: well so sure, but
then
the market isn't "a magical solution from god for all
the crazy dangerous shit i don't want
to have
to deal with".
mircea_popescu: but without
those meetings of
the minds,
there isn't a market, just chaos.
mircea_popescu: what was said was
that for as long as you value
the S for a, worth z, and for b, worth x, whereas she values
the sack FOR
THE SAME a, worth y and for
the same b, worth x,
then
therer can be a market.
mircea_popescu: before it manages
that, it's a shitty island on
the side of
the great faith empire of a man on whose dominions sun never sets.
mircea_popescu: when
they don't make
the same lists a market's impossible, which is why britain must "civilize"
the world before it can be a "trade empire".
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no. a market exists when people make
the same lists but order
them differently.
mircea_popescu: trinque ~same as
there's
to envy about having been born again or w/e, having found one's religion, calling, life, hapiness, w/e.
trinque: asciilifeform: who would ask
them?
that's
the point
mircea_popescu: and
there
the problem starts : given
the same sack of whatever pounds' worth selected from
the city dump,
two different people will not make
the same item, same order "lists of assets".
trinque: there's nothing
to envy about being owned.
mircea_popescu: odd
that
this doesn't occur
to you as
the obvious answer
to
the whole "gold brick" bs. "oh, why doesn't mouse go down
THIS
tunnel!" "because
there's a barb at
the entrance and it stepped on it" "what barb ?!?!" "there" "oh,
that ?
that's just a barb!"
mircea_popescu: well, yeah, and plenty of girls have
the scars
to show it.
mircea_popescu: were you in adjust school ? where, war ? killed enough people
to now known how
they
tick ? or where exactly,
that was
true, and
truthful, and you paid attention.
mircea_popescu: for one
thing, it's always hard
to get past
the little voice whispering at one
that he's important, but : what makes you
think you'd know what
to adjust ?
mircea_popescu: no-serviceable-parts-inside hammer still works acceptably for all manner of people not making it
their business
to do complicated
things with metals in surfaces
mircea_popescu: i already shudder at
the
thought of what my statue'll look like when i'm asleep.
a111: Logged on 2016-05-31 19:07 asciilifeform: hey, when
the man is asleep ~somebody~'s gotta proffer
the pineapple!111
a111: Logged on 2016-05-31 19:04 asciilifeform: eh iirc mircea_popescu flies
these in and reprogramms
them
to spec in days.
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-31#1474179 << nothing could be further from
teh
truth. with some regularity mp has
to punish multi-year supposed experts for basic
training items such as "who
the fuck said you may leave".
the equivalent'd be a research lab where one has
to explain
the criteria of divisibility with 2 and 5
to
the research leaders.
☝︎ mircea_popescu: notrly. old means many
things, and here means "no longer sexually interesting
to men"
mircea_popescu: and
to
teh gestapo, and in general, she's got a vocal vulvular valvule an' is not affraid
to use it!
a111: Logged on 2016-05-31 19:01 ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i enjoy
the company of adults, not children
mircea_popescu: and make no mistake about it, she'll pen diatribes
to
the mujahedeen about how
tamara down
the street got
two inches more silk headdress or w/e
mircea_popescu: if
tomorrow muhammad offers a gram more petrocheese / unit
time
than usg.yelp.ceo.my, she's gone.
mircea_popescu: "i am here ;
therefore". and which it is why it needs absolutely no reflashing either asciilifeform
a111: Logged on 2016-05-31 19:01
trinque: because I am here