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mircea_popescu: no such thing ; the dead mechanism either rots and stinks ; or else exactly immitates life - so much so as to be actually alive ; and if actually alive - it heals.
asciilifeform: he did not personally invent his crackpotteries, but carefully cut out of actual works of philosophy, translated to sv porchmonkey language, and marketed.
asciilifeform: nothing so strange. somewhat rhetorically-savvy fella, gathers a buncha sillycon valley types, and convinces them that (in their words) 'smartest human who ever lived.' money rains in, chix put out, etc.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform sanity is homeostasis. what is this "functioning liver by itself" ?
asciilifeform: maybe if derp finds The Ring of Popescuinity in the mud, and cleans it up, and wields some of its powers, he still isn't mircea_popescu ?
gabriel_laddel: mircea_popescu: is the "nightlife" in montevideo the ~same as BA?
mircea_popescu: how does one sit atop the pile of chicks and still derp ineptly ?
mircea_popescu: had no idea this is even possibru.
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: wait what does his new thing have to do with thiel?
mircea_popescu: oh oh! ty
gabriel_laddel: harry potter and the methods of rationality?
asciilifeform: anyway he successfully distilled the most hardcore folks from his original cult into a new thing, is moar funded than ever before, as far as i can tell, and is happily fellating thiel with renewed vigour.
mircea_popescu: where the fuck was that thing anyway.
mircea_popescu takes poorly to false advertising.
mircea_popescu: da fuck, how dares he not humbly suck cock when the world condescends to slap him silly.
asciilifeform: serves hitler, in that enthusiastic and demented way that only a mengele can.
mircea_popescu: why ? twerp is writing fiction "didactically" and "challenges" the world.
mircea_popescu: rather too like the inept romanian wanna-bes for my taste.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: he's on the other side.
mircea_popescu: rather low ever since i taught him how to write and he... failed to engage.
asciilifeform: ^ described in agonizing detail therein, iirc
mircea_popescu: and for no fault of their own ?!
asciilifeform: yudkowsky successfully bootstrapped his inner cult to the next level, of being a properly institutionalized and usgized org, and he didn't need the public www any moar.
asciilifeform: the wind fell from its sails, and the cultists scattered to the four winds
mircea_popescu: which this now ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i also missed this when it happened, but it imploded.
mircea_popescu: for as long as that article stands "less wrong" seriously can't exist intellectually.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-07 18:21 gabriel_laddel: The lesswrong people I've run into out the bay area all tacked on idiocies like "if someone had a really good betting run, then you would pay them to make decisions for you regarding your own life"
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-07#1478082 << if you run into any more make them read http://trilema.com/2016/multivariate-calculus-for-experts/ ☝︎
asciilifeform: but i actually have nfi if that particular chumpatron is still rollin'. all i ever knew of it was from the mr mold film linked earlier.
asciilifeform: like any good organized fraud, the futarchy folks consist of a few conscious sc4mz0rz who know exactly what they're doing, and a buncha useful idiots.
mircea_popescu: nor for that matter fucking fractals and/or positibe feedback
a111: Logged on 2016-06-07 18:18 asciilifeform: some derp named hanson was pushing a crackpottery called 'futarchy', where you have a bitbet-like item that is actually plugged into a robotic monarch that issues edicts
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-07#1478076 << hysteresis no longer taught in schools i take it |? ☝︎
mircea_popescu: uh i don't recall where specifically. tardstalk prolly. or reddit/twitter/whatever.
asciilifeform: 'opin as to .... performance'
mircea_popescu: which this ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: wai where was this
gabriel_laddel: In the sense of: http://bauhh.dyndns.org:8000/clim-spec/index.html
mircea_popescu: buncha fuctards, can't speak in public, opine as to consummate public speaker's performance ; never as much as owned a suit of clothes, comment the suits of dude that's been wearing one since highschool. on it goes.
mircea_popescu: yes. i'd study them to get better.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: would it make much difference if there could ?
mircea_popescu: AS FUCKING IF there exists the webtard that can emulate my rhetoric ability.
asciilifeform: and if you think i will use scrolls that don't respond to mouse wheel, EVER, think again.
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: it just LOOKS like that. All of those widgets are just handle-repaint defmethods.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-07 18:14 trinque: take a breath and think about what's coming out your mouth hole
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-07#1478065 <<< one of the funniest things to me re webtard community was that they read enough trilema to find ancient political meeting videos and hurr durr critically at my performance. ☝︎
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: so explain the atrocious athena soup
a111: Logged on 2016-06-05 14:09 asciilifeform: fella wasn't quite certain what he wanted, and soon after the publication, devil approached him with bargain.
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: I use the CLX native backend and will be moving to framebuffer when it makes economic sense.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: well, still in the sense that the urbit thing chugs along
a111: Logged on 2016-06-07 17:50 asciilifeform: specifically to 'we do not want to be bitcoin, bitcoin users will be crushed by usg'
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-07#1478060 << still with that stupid shit ? ☝︎
asciilifeform: why does clim have to use any of the native gui widgets ?
shinohai: Hey that Gsharp thing looks pretty nifty.
gabriel_laddel: We do have to deal with X...
asciilifeform: more than whole os + bitcoinatron ought to weigh.
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: one step at a time. I cut out all the "backends" and got the LoC count to 100,803 lines of CL.
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel a number of times.
trinque: how bout that, I'm lispfamous
gabriel_laddel: trinque: didja see your quote on the new McCLIM site?
asciilifeform: trinque: nobody was looking for stalin. instead it was 'capitalist' spray paint on the old popular vote nonsense.
trinque: oh, we will find our stalin and then follow him
gabriel_laddel: mircea_popescu: have you sailed across the river to montevideo yet?
trinque: gabriel_laddel: whole thing is fucked as soon as the cultural notions of born slaves enters the process
asciilifeform: i have nfi whether they're still at it, and if so - how.
asciilifeform: the 'futarchy' folks were trying to give ye olde demoooooocracy a new spray paint coat.
trinque: soon as someone does something that works some other idiot comes along and wants to make a religion and government out of it
gabriel_laddel: The lesswrong people I've run into out the bay area all tacked on idiocies like "if someone had a really good betting run, then you would pay them to make decisions for you regarding your own life" ☟︎
trinque: and losers lost capital which diminished their ability to take part
trinque: where people made predictions and were paid for them if they were correct
gabriel_laddel: under the name of "prediction market"
gabriel_laddel: ^ this is what I've encountered people pushing irl
asciilifeform: some derp named hanson was pushing a crackpottery called 'futarchy', where you have a bitbet-like item that is actually plugged into a robotic monarch that issues edicts ☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎
a111: 1 results for "prediction markets are for tards", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=prediction%20markets%20are%20for%20tards
gabriel_laddel: $s prediction markets are for tards
asciilifeform: trinque: mold was actually representing sanity in that one
trinque: what, everyone has the same amount of capital?
trinque: skipped ahead, heard tripe on prediction markets being "just an advanced form of democracy"
shinohai: umm's and ahhs\'s seem to be common mannerisms amongst basement-dwelling scammers.
trinque: take a breath and think about what's coming out your mouth hole ☟︎
asciilifeform: has various strange 'darth vader' nervous ticks, presumably from years of living in cave
asciilifeform: and the man is very clearly not camera-ready.
asciilifeform: trinque: last time i saw him on video, it was https://vimeo.com/9262193
trinque: jesus christ, the "umm"s coming out of this guy
asciilifeform: specifically to 'we do not want to be bitcoin, bitcoin users will be crushed by usg' ☟︎
asciilifeform: as in, max transactions PERIOD.
asciilifeform: ^ mr mold, apart from the 1,001 other atrocious design decisions, added cherry to the shitcake by making his 'coins' have 9 lives.
a111: Logged on 2015-08-04 21:35 ascii_field: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/urbit-dev/qgxfZ-I-nJ4/q6mKVUA7b1oJ << obligatory, the mega-flamefest that followed
asciilifeform: arguably that one pre-dated the others. just took a while to fully bloom.
shinohai: God these shitty crowdsale?ICO coins are like viruses. They keep mutating.
asciilifeform: ^^ -----> say hello to new ethercrapcoin
mod6: shouldn't be too bad
mod6: gotta add one last part before we can really use it in here; get it a pgp key, register it with deedbot, then build in functions to selfvoice
mod6: worked through the test plan after 2 small fixes, seems to be working as designed.
shinohai asked tb0t for a cup of tea, only got hot water.
mod6: well, that's probably incremental, just not sequenced
mod6: sure, that'd be something too
mircea_popescu: so get the line number.
mod6: anyway, i can make it happen. just gotta ensure its fast, don't want any io to slow stuff down.