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mircea_popescu: it compares the pubkey it has stored (and which you hopefully signed) to the shit in the hash of the signed document to establish it was not merely signed but actually signed by x.
mircea_popescu: so having a "signature apparently by 8A736F0E2FB7B452, could not verify" is one thing. "good signature from user MP 8A736F0E2FB7B452" is another thing.
mircea_popescu: yes.
mircea_popescu: !up CHRIX
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes the keyid above.
mircea_popescu: nsa reads like a third of their "secure" comms on this basis.
mircea_popescu: a point so fucking readily lost on derpjournos you wouldn't begin to believe.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes gpg saying "signed by x" means nothing if you don't have x's pubkey to check.
mircea_popescu: no ppl i r not insane tyvm stop pming me. i am aware that through the process as described signatures never get in fact verified and one could create a colision and sign for someone else. this is not a bug, it's a fucking feature. you ARE supposed to check YOURSELF the fucking sigs if you intend to rely on the signed documents. it's the only way to implement this correctly.
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: MolokoDeck it's included in the signature block of the signed thing.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes nope.
mircea_popescu: !up MolokoDeck
mircea_popescu: what is this, kansas ?
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo "Now this wasn't particularly notable at all. Now a lot of mining companies are crawling" << you are not allowed to use now as the first word in two consecutive sentences
mircea_popescu: this warning we squarely ignore, because if gribble knows who x is so do we
mircea_popescu: when you feed a string to gpg you either get a "nonsense" complaint or a "signed by X" response, with a warning that "we can't know who x is "
mircea_popescu: no, not using gpg. using gribble.
mircea_popescu: if gribble says so, yes.
mircea_popescu: no bother.
mircea_popescu: RagnarDanneskjol nah i want it to always send from the same address.
mircea_popescu: i need more coffee, amphetamines and cuntjuice over here.
mircea_popescu: shit. via gribble i mean.
mircea_popescu: o, that what you meant, "verifies" via google ?
mircea_popescu: it does not verify the signatures. it merely extracts w/e signature gpg sees in the document.
mircea_popescu: no.
mircea_popescu: ok, so say what the thing is again, let's see if i say yes this time.
mircea_popescu: if someone breaks in and steals the bitcent, hey, more power to them.
mircea_popescu: MolokoDeck it's never going to own more than a bitcent or w/e
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes it goes back all the fucking way to 1930.
mircea_popescu: MolokoDeck so what's the concern ?
mircea_popescu: ;;google trilema story endless korea
mircea_popescu: MolokoDeck yup.
mircea_popescu: all these fucking successful derps for crying out loud.
mircea_popescu: so i figure why no give clueless noobs a chance. send an order " http://mediaparty.info/2014/ << find the afterparty". half hour later, "i can't find anything. nobody is sayinga word on sm, there's ONE picture of a guy and some wine on twitter without enough background to find where it is or anything".
mircea_popescu: this way you don't have to keep updated keyrings locally or verify signatures in any wya ☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: MolokoDeck so basically, bot reads each document, extracts declared sig, puts it to gribble
mircea_popescu: there!
mircea_popescu: ;;gpg info --key 8A736F0E2FB7B452
mircea_popescu: ;;gpg info --key 6160E1CAC8A3C52966FD76998A736F0E2FB7B452
mircea_popescu: grr
mircea_popescu: ;;gpg info --key 0E2FB7B452
mircea_popescu: ;;gpginfo --key 0E2FB7B452
mircea_popescu: ;;ident
mircea_popescu: MolokoDeck http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-08-2014#792431 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: ;;seen bluemeanie4
mircea_popescu: !s nick from:gribble
mircea_popescu: in the endless desert of logs
mircea_popescu: MolokoDeck it cabn, gimme a sec to find the solution.
mircea_popescu: it would extract the nicks from the signatures in the .txt. the mechanism to do this relies on gribble, did you see that ping ?
mircea_popescu: no.
mircea_popescu: MolokoDeck nevermind what one wants, say what the thing does.
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell peterl otherwise, the point that "bitcoin is the chosen" by the very code is quite sound and an intelligent way to go about it.
mircea_popescu: so tell me again what you think this is, best way to go about thisa
mircea_popescu: cool.
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell peterl " This got me thinking about the topic, so I decided to write up some thought I had on the subject a while ago." <<< the "i decided" device is the absolute worst intro mechanism for a blog post possible. it connotes this guy : http://trilema.com/2011/cred-ca-pe-alocuri-se-exagereaza/
mircea_popescu: MolokoDeck hey. so as i was telling RagnarDanneskjol, i have no problem covering you if you can deliver the thing by what was it, end of sept ?
mircea_popescu: whoops
mircea_popescu: le
mircea_popescu: i mean contravex
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2014/of-mendacity-mold-bugs-and-other-things/#comment-106873 >> lmao check out douchecanoe
mircea_popescu: nu cere fapte si minuni care n-au chip si nume.
mircea_popescu: lycerion ce din genuni rasari cu-o-ntreaga lume,
mircea_popescu: RagnarDanneskjol well like nao
mircea_popescu: aite well, enough excitement for one day. later all.
mircea_popescu: pankkake the idea is to have good sites.
mircea_popescu: fucking noobs.
mircea_popescu: punkman why is the guy trying to scam dollars anyway.
mircea_popescu: interesting, who knew ads have a motivational function for the publisher.
mircea_popescu: i'm sure it's all the rage at the mahjongg club, but again, to exist that retirement house in florida needs a lot of externalities in place.
mircea_popescu: i don't. i care enough about the perniciously castrated "o noes, don't argue boys, cocksuckers getr more done" to point out it doesn't belong in bitcoin, or generally among grown-ups.
mircea_popescu: once we've hung dutta, hearn and so forth and the bitcoin republic is well established, if you're still alive, you can come back and teach at the university or w/e you can do.
mircea_popescu: just, don't be amazed that nobody with actual involvement cares for your nonsense.
mircea_popescu: you're more than welcome to continue livng in your imaginary blind kitten fantasyland. you're too old to be particularly useful in any political sense anyway.
mircea_popescu: no, it was not fud.
mircea_popescu: de raadt kicked all the misbehaving doods to the curb.
mircea_popescu: look at what exactly happened in openbsd once the teeth of the nsa stooges were felt.
mircea_popescu: you think you did at any rate.
mircea_popescu: it does not work in environments which have to self-maintain, especially not against significantly hostile pressure.
mircea_popescu: it only works in environments other people maintain for your benefit.
mircea_popescu: the misbehaviour is to display this sort of behavior.
mircea_popescu: this isn't kansas.
mircea_popescu: i had no idea it's yours, but at issue is the nonsensical "k. A cooperative effort where teams share ideas and cross-pollinate with less ego gets more done"
mircea_popescu: you'll need to supply some context.
mircea_popescu: problem fixes itself over time.
mircea_popescu: when in shit, much more important than finding saints, is steadily applying nooses to the worst behaved.
mircea_popescu: midnightmagic certainly.
mircea_popescu: "WRONG ANSWER!"
mircea_popescu: "what is your favorite hole ?"
mircea_popescu: i spend most of my time that way.
mircea_popescu: but no difference, the gallows hold.
mircea_popescu: karpeles was too busy to obey too, there's a never ending string.
mircea_popescu: his problem.
mircea_popescu: then six months down the road let's wonder why the asshole's stretched and there's no path back to innocence.
mircea_popescu: people have this idiotic attide whereby "whatever, i do what i want"
mircea_popescu: because gavin not listening to what i told him to do when i told him to do it.
mircea_popescu: no.
mircea_popescu: also your mother is a sickly whore.
mircea_popescu: omg fu derps. they're NOT behaving badly. you are.
mircea_popescu: Since Conformal doesn't act this way, either they have a like-minded funder who enjoys watching strife, or their funder doesn't know how badly they're behaving."