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mircea_popescu: s/you/those/
mircea_popescu: what, you really thought we seriously let you people do the coding ?
mircea_popescu: midnightmagic plenty of people have custom clients that don't get crushed by the hearn introduced nsa bug.
mircea_popescu: a a yeah. missed that part.
mircea_popescu: so you don't trust the guy.
mircea_popescu: MolokoDesk welcome to irl.
mircea_popescu: teh pluses or teh minuses ? sodium or -oxigen ?
mircea_popescu: which are the better ?
mircea_popescu: and your skull over there too, with this brain matter in a wet soup, also got its pluses and minuses.
mircea_popescu: only nsa wants that.,
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes think of it the only right way to thinl of it : any restriction on the process for others is tantamount to a restriction on the domain of the trng.
mircea_popescu: s like water.
mircea_popescu: it
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes you really can't say what process a third party uses to discern trustworthyness
mircea_popescu: it's cool and all, but it has to pm to the commanding nick
mircea_popescu: ^
mircea_popescu: yeah this is a pm bot srsly.
mircea_popescu: ahahha geekbot.
mircea_popescu: DoctorBTC i don't recall what i wanted to commend you about, but it was something.
mircea_popescu: RagnarDanneskjol i don't think tao can stay unless it starts answering ,chart in pm only
mircea_popescu waves at DoctorBTC
mircea_popescu: that chart thing is fucking evil.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla yeah but it had to be invited
mircea_popescu: souch
mircea_popescu: !up Tao_Jones
mircea_popescu: um how did this shit go
mircea_popescu: i thought it was mostly py
mircea_popescu: MolokoDesk and you actually have php irc bots somewhere ?!
mircea_popescu: ;;google php does pipes ? the band
mircea_popescu: o wow. what a band name.
mircea_popescu: php does pipes ?
mircea_popescu: but it sounds like just the sort of thing to become a nightmare.
mircea_popescu: MolokoDesk i dunno how you get gpg for php for instance.
mircea_popescu: RagnarDanneskjol i got #trilema like that, it consists of me and some other cool kids logging into gribble.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes for the most part, we're here to escape the teenage angst of the interwebs.
mircea_popescu: i dun care.
mircea_popescu: then you'd best include notes on how to get a stock php server into a stater where it can run your code.
mircea_popescu: what you writing this in ?
mircea_popescu: well once it's done it'll be on github and hosted somewhere.
mircea_popescu: cool. address ? ☟︎
mircea_popescu: !up guest8374
mircea_popescu: you've now got 11 things to string together and that's that.
mircea_popescu: MolokoDesk that's not really your problem. one person could send five documents in one pastebin. three other people two each
mircea_popescu: might be just uk, i dun recall.
mircea_popescu: midnightmagic the one advantage of living in the us : afaik it's actually illegal to try and colect on euro defamation cases there.
mircea_popescu: yeah it's an extra step.
mircea_popescu: also, tx id is not as reliable.
mircea_popescu: comes to fewer bytes than tx id
mircea_popescu: MolokoDesk block-and-address. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: sadly, gay marriage wasn't a thing then.
mircea_popescu: i'd be so curious to fuck the imaginary daughter of knuth and buffett.
mircea_popescu: well, 80% of it anyway
mircea_popescu: kinda what the whole discussion has been about
mircea_popescu: decimation at no point are keys examined in this process at all.
mircea_popescu: mp service philosophy : "make small, absolute promises"
mircea_popescu: but the idea is, once an hour.
mircea_popescu: of course server may be under load or w/e.
mircea_popescu: i'd rather have it fixed.
mircea_popescu: !up MolokoDesk
mircea_popescu: MolokoDesk 1 hr.
mircea_popescu: * asciilifeform sees 'golang' as a mild misbehaviour, but won't try to convince people << be fgucking thankful it's not ruby.
mircea_popescu: <decimation> ought these pubkeys be cached by the bot or grabbed from the keyserver per request ? << ?
mircea_popescu: MolokoDesk http://pastebin.com/iuk6rard ☟︎
mircea_popescu: one sec ima write it out plainly.
mircea_popescu: yup.
mircea_popescu: checked. see ?
mircea_popescu: ;;gpg info --key 35D2E1A0457E6498
mircea_popescu: of interest is the signature packet: algo 1, keyid 35D2E1A0457E6498 line
mircea_popescu: RagnarDanneskjol MolokoDesk http://pastebin.com/yrL9xW6z ☟︎
mircea_popescu: we're not getting too far here, lemme write it out as a formal spec.
mircea_popescu: mno.
mircea_popescu: MolokoDesk what do you mean by "are valid" ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you know you need to fix the links.
mircea_popescu: i never noticed b4
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform why is the pgp corp named twice in the rfc ?
mircea_popescu: hit me.
mircea_popescu: MolokoDesk ok, so one final time, to check this off.
mircea_popescu: what one woman takes as violence another takes as courtship, a point the state is desperate to hide from the more unfortunate of youze.
mircea_popescu: first off, violence is a subjective psychogenic construct.
mircea_popescu: no state ever had or ever actually used any sort of "monopoly" on "violence"
mircea_popescu: hence musolini's famous "i demand god strike me down"
mircea_popescu: all the politics of infantilism, where one makes demands of god, are suddenly exposed to reality, because in either of these degenerate systems of governmance (really, sides of same coin) one actualy may entertain the delusion of it.
mircea_popescu: which is supported by practice.
mircea_popescu: computational soundness is so 1970s.
mircea_popescu: welcome to philosophically sound software design (tm). i hope to see a lot more of it in the future.
mircea_popescu: (and signed).
mircea_popescu: quite.
mircea_popescu: the verification of identity relies on acts by they who know who you are.
mircea_popescu: MolokoDesk the signature of someone you don't know is worthless to you.
mircea_popescu: don't make it something stupid.
mircea_popescu: gimme a pastebin with something you signed please.
mircea_popescu: try it.
mircea_popescu: MolokoDeck it can extract a keyid from the signature block.
mircea_popescu: if a matter of repudiation arises, then that is dealt with by testing the sig.
mircea_popescu: just like irl, the registrar of deeds does not verify your signature, merely looks that this shitwas signed
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes all it determines is that the document formally looks like one signed by that guy.
mircea_popescu: simply do this : separate the pastebin into individual signed bits, put each through gpg, take the apparent, unverified signer id, put it through grible to verify wot id, put it through gribble again to verify assbot linkage and you're done.
mircea_popescu: MolokoDeck don't.
mircea_popescu: this is not something that may or can be centralised.
mircea_popescu: !up MolokoDesk