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asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-09#1479680 << not that, either. because how do you VERIFY ????? ☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: ddos only exists for the rest of us. ☟︎
asciilifeform: as for ddosing, usg infrastructure is ddosproof because they multi-head their dns or whatever the term was for the thing you can ONLY do with crapflare
asciilifeform: there is ~no tech, only duct tape and chewing gum.
asciilifeform: and that's with 2+ DECENT unixlike boxen, with DECENT bandwidth and ~reasonably reliable hardware, that you CONTROL...
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu ever personally arrange a db replication thing ?
asciilifeform: but more importantly, the software stack that gives you anything like smooth migration between rapidly born and dying machines, is NOT THERE
a111: Logged on 2016-06-09 23:06 mircea_popescu: do anything you damn well please - from hosting your (uninterdictable) website on half a million random machines to nuking whitehouse.org
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-09#1479676 << i suspect that there are not half a million machines with decent bandwidth and disk. ☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: one of them things that costs more to parcel out than it is worth.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-09 23:04 mircea_popescu: does this make sense to anyone outside of yours truly ? asciilifeform ? davout ? jurov ? phf ? trinque ?
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-09#1479673 << i distinctly recall mircea_popescu outlining this wish list a while back. but must confess that i suspect cpu cycle rental - even PINCHED cycles from OTHER PEOPLE, in botnet - to be a -ev proposition. strange, but there it is. ☝︎☟︎
mod6: i probably could/should have all of the tickets clumped under one tree. but i need to work on the tickets and ordering etc.
asciilifeform: vs the text that wants to be in them bubbles.
asciilifeform: why should there be ocean of white
mod6: its hard because there are like a number of disconnected graphs, or hard because of mental gymnastics? i'd like to make it better, so your input helps.
mod6: <+asciilifeform> http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-09#1479597 << veeery labour-intensive to read << ok, noted. so my first stab at this... more here please. ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-09#1479630 << lel what in satan's name is this for?? ☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-09#1479597 << veeery labour-intensive to read ☝︎
shinohai: Since we finished the rss thing last night, I'm already working on a new one xD
trinque: mircea_popescu: mike_c told me he was able to connect to my db; subsequently haven't heard from him
mod6: watch out or you'll start writing #!/usr/bin/perl all the time
shinohai: Well this place has kinda mrphed into full-time between Bitcoin and Qntra lol
mod6 turning people to the dark side, one at a time.
mod6: much more to come / work on.
mod6: salud; now that we've got a ticketing system, we can see how much there really is to do still! haha.
shinohai: Glad to have been help and not hindrance ... 'twas an honour to participate.
mod6: Couldn't have done it without you though, thanks for all the testing help. Most sincerely.
shinohai: btw mircea_popescu "Pace in our Time!" good one ☟︎
mircea_popescu: mod6 anyway, go ahead an' write it up, i already did a qntra today
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-09#1479756 <<< i dun recall where that got mired ; iirc mike_c wanted some data from trinque no idea if he ever got it an' he's been kinda awol. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-06-09 23:39 mod6: I feel like we've needed this tool for some time as he was only needing a way to track and graph the work required.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-09#1479749 << this is tru ☝︎
mod6: unless mircea_popescu wants to have the honor, then by all means.
mod6: he'll get back to us, im sure its fine.
mod6: jdawg: does that work ok?
mod6: Ah, he's the man on that then, ok.
BingoBoingo: mod6: You arrange that with jurov
mod6: But I'll take a shot at it I guess as long as the proceeds can be donated to The Bitcoin Foundation.
gribble: mike_c was last seen in #trilema 6 weeks, 1 day, 20 hours, 40 minutes, and 5 seconds ago: <mike_c> at least you won the 'most famous mircea popescu' award - https://duckduckgo.com/?q=mircea+popescu
BingoBoingo: mod6: Well I asked the question in case you or mircea_popescu wanted to have the honor of writing up T
mod6: I feel like we've needed this tool for some time as he was only needing a way to track and graph the work required. ☟︎
mod6: BingoBoingo: did you read these tickets? don't miss out on Mr. P.'s vision for TMSR~ here in the story.
mod6: and as we start to work on these features, it is meant (at least by me) that tasks and other atomic work will be children of the features.
mod6: your tickets are awesome btw
mod6: that might make it that much more clear.
mod6: but to me looks like everything goes the right way, and dependentcies are in the correct direction
mod6: i guess this can be re-worked if it invokes too much mental gymnastics.
mod6: this looks right to me
mod6: so yeah, we start with a large chunk, and it breaks down to smaller chunks.
mircea_popescu: well no the other way around ; 7 depends on them
mod6: and the same for 3, 4, 5
mod6: so for ticket 6, i may have put in its antecedent as 7
mod6: yah, i kinda modled it after how the tree looks for V.
mircea_popescu: i guess just takes getting used to
mod6: and the 5, 6, 4, 3, are the leaves
mod6: ok then that should be fine it kinda looks funny i suppose. but 1 is the root.
BingoBoingo: So who is writing up the Qntra "T Ascendant"?
mod6: so ticket 1 is a saga, which can't be complete until 8 is complete, correct?
mircea_popescu: did i do them backwards ?
mircea_popescu: shouldn't arrows point from root to fruit ?
mod6: hm. so is ticket 1 an antecedent (parent) of ticket 8?
mircea_popescu: of course... aren't the arrows backwards ?
mod6: the next update ~should~ contain them all.
mod6: probably because it was related to the timing of entering the tickets.
mircea_popescu: maybe not yet long enough though
mircea_popescu: http://thebitcoin.foundation/tickets/UCI_tickets.html << only 4 tickets oddly.
mod6: i'll check into that.
mod6: ah, yeah, ok. i see all of 'em came in at nearly the same time. should have handled it, but looks like it got a bit confused.
mod6: ok, yeah, i see all of those in the file. lemme see what happened when you were entering 'em. thanks for doing that, might be a weird timing issue or something, not sure.
tb0t: Project: UCI, ID: 8, Type: F, Subject: Create UCI supervisor, Antecedents: 2,7, Notes: Interacts with UCI worker through interface ; interacts with peers through #trilema standard bot. Maintains list of prices for exposed abilities and Bitcoin address for payments ; list of trusted peers for accepting orders and verifying Bitcoin payments ; administrative policies as appropriate. Directs worker to execute accepted commands,
tb0t: Project: UCI, ID: 7, Type: I, Subject: Research and design UCI/worker interface., Antecedents: 3,4,5,6, Notes: UCI element should expose significant portions of native ability (at a very minimum networking ; math processing - CPU and VidCard ; storage - RAM and HDD) through an unified, lightweight interface. Feature load less important than simplicity.
tb0t: Project: UCI, ID: 6, Type: F, Subject: Create UCI worker for Embedded/ARM, Antecedents: , Notes: Worker should interface with kernel, execute all UCI commands, meter resource usage.
tb0t: Project: UCI, ID: 5, Type: F, Subject: Create UCI worker for Mobile (Android, iOS/OS X), Antecedents: , Notes: Worker should interface with kernel, execute all UCI commands, meter resource usage.
tb0t: Project: UCI, ID: 4, Type: F, Subject: Create UCI worker for Linux (Ubuntu, Debian, Mint, Fedora, Centos etc), Antecedents: , Notes: Worker should interface with kernel, execute all UCI commands, meter resource usage.
tb0t: Project: UCI, ID: 3, Type: F, Subject: Create UCI worker for Windows (10, 7, 8/8.1), Antecedents: , Notes: Worker should interface with kernel, execute all UCI commands, meter resource usage.
tb0t: Project: UCI, ID: 2, Type: F, Subject: #trilema standard bot, Antecedents: , Notes: Should be capable of maintaining connection to channel ; interfacing with deedbot ; interfacing with Lordship/voiced users.
tb0t: Project: UCI, ID: 1, Type: S, Subject: TMSR's own Unified Computing Interface, Antecedents: 8, Notes: The goal of TMSR as far as computing is concerned is to deploy a cheap, effectual, networked computing interface that can not be disrupted significantly under any circumstances by any adversary for whatever reason.
tb0t: No such ticket was found with id: 1.
mircea_popescu: if it is computing, it belongs to us.
mircea_popescu: map the entire dns system, eavesdrop the entire internet, create your own dns, launch satellites and nukes (hey, who's to say what peripherals a given machine has, amirite ?), whatever.
mircea_popescu: do anything you damn well please - from hosting your (uninterdictable) website on half a million random machines to nuking whitehouse.org ☟︎
trinque: I recall the last thread about this
trinque: seems you could execute things on a variety of UCI workers and compare results
mircea_popescu: does this make sense to anyone outside of yours truly ? asciilifeform ? davout ? jurov ? phf ? trinque ? ☟︎☟︎☟︎
tb0t: Project: UCI, ID: 8, Type: F, Subject: Create UCI supervisor, Antecedents: 2,7, Notes: Interacts with UCI worker through interface ; interacts with peers through #trilema standard bot. Maintains list of prices for exposed abilities and Bitcoin address for payments ; list of trusted peers for accepting orders and verifying Bitcoin payments ; administrative policies as appropriate. Directs worker to execute accepted commands,
mircea_popescu: %add UCI F "Create UCI supervisor" "Interacts with UCI worker through interface ; interacts with peers through #trilema standard bot. Maintains list of prices for exposed abilities and Bitcoin address for payments ; list of trusted peers for accepting orders and verifying Bitcoin payments ; administrative policies as appropriate. Directs worker to execute accepted commands, returns results to peer." 2,7
tb0t: No such ticket was found with id: 8.
mircea_popescu: ns results to peer." 2,7
mircea_popescu: %add UCI F "Create UCI supervisor" "Interacts with UCI worker through interface ; interacts with peers through #trilema standard bot. Maintains list of prices for exposed abilities (in satoshi/Gb/second of storage for instance) and Bitcoin address for payments ; list of trusted peers for accepting orders and verifying Bitcoin payments ; administrative policies as appropriate. Directs worker to execute accepted commands, retur ☟︎
tb0t: Project: UCI, ID: 7, Type: I, Subject: Research and design UCI/worker interface., Antecedents: 3,4,5,6, Notes: UCI element should expose significant portions of native ability (at a very minimum networking ; math processing - CPU and VidCard ; storage - RAM and HDD) through an unified, lightweight interface. Feature load less important than simplicity.
mircea_popescu: %add UCI I "Research and design UCI/worker interface." "UCI element should expose significant portions of native ability (at a very minimum networking ; math processing - CPU and VidCard ; storage - RAM and HDD) through an unified, lightweight interface. Feature load less important than simplicity. " 3,4,5,6
tb0t: Project: UCI, ID: 6, Type: F, Subject: Create UCI worker for Embedded/ARM, Antecedents: , Notes: Worker should interface with kernel, execute all UCI commands, meter resource usage.
tb0t: Project: UCI, ID: 5, Type: F, Subject: Create UCI worker for Mobile (Android, iOS/OS X), Antecedents: , Notes: Worker should interface with kernel, execute all UCI commands, meter resource usage.
tb0t: Project: UCI, ID: 4, Type: F, Subject: Create UCI worker for Linux (Ubuntu, Debian, Mint, Fedora, Centos etc), Antecedents: , Notes: Worker should interface with kernel, execute all UCI commands, meter resource usage.
tb0t: Project: UCI, ID: 3, Type: F, Subject: Create UCI worker for Windows (10, 7, 8/8.1), Antecedents: , Notes: Worker should interface with kernel, execute all UCI commands, meter resource usage.
tb0t: No such ticket was found with id: 3.
tb0t: No such ticket was found with id: 5.
tb0t: Project: UCI, ID: 4, Type: F, Subject: Create UCI worker for Embedded/ARM, Antecedents: , Notes: Worker should interface with kernel, execute all UCI commands, meter resource usage.
tb0t: Project: UCI, ID: 3, Type: F, Subject: Create UCI worker for Embedded/ARM, Antecedents: , Notes: Worker should interface with kernel, execute all UCI commands, meter resource usage.