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asciilifeform: 'quidnon' is orlov's crackpot design, it will, he wrote, be published as plans on www, and sold as diy kit.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i dunno about his nonsense. every (admittedly, large, expensive) boat i've been in had detachable pannels. you first take the shit OFF, then fuck with the pipes gauges etc in the normal manner. yes it takes 3x as long as if you were doing house plumbing, but that's about it.
mircea_popescu: there is such a thing as "why is e < 3??" "no reason" in nature, and from there in engineering. there isn't really such a thing in society, and from there in culture.
mircea_popescu: the basic, and really only, rule of hermeneutics is : that then you've understood a text when, far from its shortcomings appearing inexplicable errors, they become the actual pillars upon which the damned thing is constructed, and what originally seemed to you sensible and structural takes its true place as accidental. ☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: for the same reason as parrot.
mircea_popescu: you should read the poetry of the time, they were pretty drunk on a sort of adolescent male idealism perhaps best rendered as sportsfan-hiphop in today's terms.
asciilifeform: i bet he saw it as little different from modern bloke throwing out his pack of cigs 'tryin' to quit'
mircea_popescu: oint of forgetting his duties as head of state."
mircea_popescu: anyway, the code || ideology parallel should be pretty obvious. yes people run other [from their wot] people's text, but this is neither obligatory nor particularly encouraged. on the contrary, with ideology as with code as with "wot maintenance best practices" and as with any other text, heterogeny is the key to victory.
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: "In addition, for those interested in keeping their tokens from the losing blockchain as a keepsake, we will support a one-time withdrawal of the deprecated tokens, provided that the losing chain is still functional when you attempt a withdrawal. Specific instructions on how to access your tokens on the old chain to follow."
mircea_popescu: not that it's much of a concern, there's exactly ONE customer doing eth on poloniex. but as a theoretical thing.
mircea_popescu: something that may appear as a subcase but i believe is not (not that the dispute is all that relevant) and in any case is more numerous is the jwz : the fellow that "just wants to" keep right on being lazy.
mircea_popescu: (take for instance the "independent" demo as described in http://trilema.com/2016/please-stop-using-dns-already-and-other-considerations/#footnote_6_65060 and more generally by Ballas. it's well over 100k loi, most of which are involved with covering up the fact that there's any ideology at work in the first place)
thestringpuller: Also they are nailing the doors shut on Ether tomorrow until "clear winner": "As a Poloniex customer, you do not need to do anything. The migration will occur automatically, and your full balance of Ethereum will be transferred to the winning chain. Keep in mind that as we near the fork, we will be temporarily disabling deposits and withdrawals in preparation for the migration process. Trading will continue to operate as normal during ☟︎
Framedragger: asciilifeform: aha! hey might as well start with this, sounds good - thanks for the idea
Framedragger: asciilifeform: so as an example of "given [directory/file] structure, allow sane access"
a111: Logged on 2016-07-18 18:01 jurov: you actually tried lynx? as we are speaking, it claims to read 30MB, at 340KiB/sec, and the keeps getting down
a111: Logged on 2016-07-18 00:29 asciilifeform: it is known to me, for instance, that usg is presently spending stupendous sums on 'biometric' profiling of typing pattern, for as many victims as possible.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: ssd would help much on that machine i'd suspect, if it's really i/o bound, as simplistic as it sounds
mircea_popescu: going back to history for a minute here - at first there was the text internet ; and then as bw and hdds grew up and people could have gifs of samatha fox's snatch rather than ascii art of same, they all rushed to... basically, this shitfest of netscape, internet exploder etc.
trinque: thing's written such that it would hop atop gossipd and provide commands just as easily
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform once there exist as many as five proper pages, you can have a proper browser.
trinque: it can be used as no more sophisticated a thing than a cmdline tool that shits text
mircea_popescu: trinque basically, it should be conceptualized not as a "this is a sheet i printed this and that on" but more like "what'd you like in your plate here ?"
mircea_popescu: trinque incidentally, i suspect the entire website model is dumb as presented. currently, under pressure from ustards/business majors/other unwelcome masses, a website is a collection of webpages that is very similar to how a tv show is a collection of tv frames. MAYBE they'll let the user have a tivo, but that's at the most.
mircea_popescu: if you build alf a web tool that looks and feels like whatever apple doohickey he fell in love with as a kid, he'll love you long time.
mircea_popescu: for instance, it'd evident we want : a) csv, for to grep ; b) tmsr-html, which is NOT html, and not just because it does not allow js ; c) tmsr-svg, which i'm going to pretend is svg, because gnarly. somewhere inbetween b and c a latex fits in as previously discussed in logs.
mircea_popescu: anyway ; the borders are fluid, the "data dissemination" part can just live as a "this is the official tmsr web package ; install it like so ; it's maintained by these people ; it does these things we want exactly right and no more"
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-18#1504937 << in practice a "consensus mechanism" as seen to work among angloderps guarantees everything's broken all the time, but they don't feel too bad about it. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-07-18 17:09 jurov: and it's questionable why export it as html, when browser can't be used and we have to grep it anyway?
Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-18#1504809 << just fyi the new 1.82M ssh key diff won't have that keyword in there, as i've shortened the comment string, as per various grumblings re this. ☝︎
Framedragger: i meant that i supplied them to you as one key in one file. but yeah kk
Framedragger: jurov: oh you mean it as counterargument, it reading from hdd on phuctor. i thought, from local hdd
jurov: you actually tried lynx? as we are speaking, it claims to read 30MB, at 340KiB/sec, and the keeps getting down ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2016-07-18 17:09 jurov: and it's questionable why export it as html, when browser can't be used and we have to grep it anyway?
Framedragger: neat as fuck
asciilifeform: Framedragger: not only would an api take up more complexity than phuctor at present in its entirety, but the thing barely keeps up as it is.
Framedragger: asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: hey i may be up for setting up some kind of searchable thing with everything dumped into postgres. not sure how much worth vs. time, but could be useful as these stats grow
jurov: and it's questionable why export it as html, when browser can't be used and we have to grep it anyway? ☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: alternatively, nobody could foresee the terrorists will use ssh keys as rsa unifying underlying, so they're entirely unprepared for any of this
asciilifeform: as soon as i add this'n'that, it will turn into whorepress.
mircea_popescu: i would say as a matter of policy we should immediately hijack, copy and completely wipe these boxes.
asciilifeform: almost as interesting is the number of boxes with DUPLICATE keys
mircea_popescu: mats what'd you use as a price signal ?
asciilifeform: jurov: the thing starts life as a casting, yes, though.
mircea_popescu: he tells himself this is a stepping stone to a carrier as congress gofer - where he'll suck his boss' cock and do the same thing to "laws"
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-17#1504265 << i suspect by now the "3d printed gun" is moreover useful ; afaik work is underway to the typically ustarded pivot of "we're not forbidding weapons - only working ones ; you can still have 3d printed plastic shit! it'll be just as good as the real thing for what you do with it anyway, which is to say jack off". ☝︎
asciilifeform: it is almost as if they all heard napoleon's 'in every private's rucksack there is a feldmarshal's baton'
reydev: while i'm up, can i ask wrt qntra, is it meant to be non-profit? as in, is the idea that shareholders are like sponsors?
mircea_popescu: anyway, archived as https://archive.is/SiBb5 and https://archive.is/8ffqQ just in case someone wants the names for whatever kill list later on
shinohai: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-18#1504648 <<<< this makes for better slogan "You can have your WoT in any color you like, as long as it's brown." ☝︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform for as long as they have the sense to stay out of the reach of the fortress that sunk teh ether-dao, they'll be fine.
asciilifeform: 'The Web of Trust is a buzzword for a new model of decentralized self-sovereign identity. It’s a phrase that dates back almost twenty-five years, the classic definition derives from PGP. But some use it as a term to include self-sovereign identity authentication & verification, certificate validation, and reputation assessment, while the vibrant blockchain community is also drawing new attention to the concept we aim to reboot it.'
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-18#1504597 << a) beautiful to see phuctor work as gcd proper, innit ? and b) wtf is with these broken ssh keys, they're all used on narrow ip spaces. third case today it's xx.xx.xx.yy vs xx.xx.xx.zz sort of thing ? ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-07-18 13:23 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-18#1504568 << the impalement is inescapable. i simply object to the notion of sparing the hardware they built - it is every bit as insidiously and infectiously idiotic as all of their software creations.
mircea_popescu: i can't quote the item for lacking a title ; romanian copies are curated and collected by ioan ursu as "historia turchesca 1300-1514), editura academiei romane, 1910 - where it's found at page 91 and urm.
Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-18#1504584 << (just realized the 'giant' refers to the fortress itself. but works just as well) ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-18#1504568 << the impalement is inescapable. i simply object to the notion of sparing the hardware they built - it is every bit as insidiously and infectiously idiotic as all of their software creations. ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: especially his discussion of kqueue and the hashtable/array duality + fd_getfile workings strictly indicates a) he's an idiot ; b) that http://trilema.com/2016/cargo-cults-a-case-study/ 's "This is what cargo cultism is, you see : memetic stupidity, inescapable for the aculturated. Even if they try. Especially if they try." is exactly right and, sadly, c) that alf is exactly correct : we can't have computers as a continuation
asciilifeform: i call this notion 'correct C fallacy'. as in, 'if yer hands dun grow from yer arse, you can write Correct C!!'
asciilifeform: large, e.g., mining trucks, had auto gearboxes as soon as it was practical... even in su
mircea_popescu: first i read that as "prophylaxia"
asciilifeform: it is known to me, for instance, that usg is presently spending stupendous sums on 'biometric' profiling of typing pattern, for as many victims as possible. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: (and as a general rule, never read a summary unless you own the producer.)
mircea_popescu: my evaluation of it was "rewrite" rather than "import" fwiw. but unlike tor, i have no beef with it as of yet.
asciilifeform: as soon as you start putting in the missing pieces to make the system actually usable in practice (e.g., no 15 second delay on 'ls' command) you end up with... linux.
Framedragger: insulting as fuck
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform imagine for a second such a thing as a proper controlled-by-owner-computer phone existed.
asciilifeform: as in, gpu, etc
asciilifeform: not pointless, but important to understand that result will eventually be the same pile of shit as everyone else's pile of shit.
asciilifeform: 'Stanley Quayle, a computer emulation consultant, has seen contractors desperate to find the parts they need. "I have a prospective customer supporting a U.S. missile defense system that is buying parts on eBay," says Quayle. "Any parts they do find are as old or older than their system," meaning they’re sometimes no more reliable than the pieces they replace.'
asciilifeform: about as achievable for most folks as a stint in the reactor business.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-17#1504156 << it's the unfortunate side effect of the bezzlar washing process, that the naive / youthful fixate on the intermediate steps as if they were actual things. ☝︎
asciilifeform: this is a very typical, incidentally, 'hopeful' fella as per Framedragger's http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-17#1504193 ☝︎
asciilifeform: e auto mechanics of the IT industry, all flocked to Perl because they could tinker so well with it with no required knowledge or skills. Thus was "programmering performed by tinkerers" born as a concept, and the tinker toys of the unskilled became better and better.'
asciilifeform: where instead of a hardwarized and guaranteed-correct array allocator, bignumatron, etc., there are 10,001 tiny ad-hoc pieces of shit, like the little space heaters, melting carpets, starting fires when you so much as blink
Framedragger: (incidentally K&R (as everyone here of course knows) included shitloads of hurtful idiosyncrasies and plain mistakes, not that this would be unexpected - just lulzy.)
Framedragger: c-machine as in von neumann machine
asciilifeform: the entire subject, of software as a cultural product, as opposed to a disembodied thing floating unanchored in possibility-space, is discussed ~nowhere else.
asciilifeform: and with 'open source software' stack as a culture.
asciilifeform: it is an ancient idea, and not useless, but does absolutely nothing vs protocol-level holes, which are pestilential in 'existing IM clients', as is i think known to ~everyone
asciilifeform: Framedragger: pgp is a sad, duct-tape-laden thing, as discussed on plenty of occasions in the logz. but the proliferation of psyop 'alternatives' casts it in a surprisingly good light.
Framedragger: asciilifeform: actually with pgp you'll just end up trusting your much dreaded aes256 since openpgp will do the whole 'session' thing as you know
asciilifeform: as for 'real time', there is this marvelous device known as... a clock
asciilifeform: they really ought to make it as a bipartite thing
mircea_popescu: hey, i made nitrocellulose in my kiddy lab, the "unstable as all fuck" thing was a bonus
asciilifeform: goes off, as ~everyone probably knows by now, on its own, when it feels like it, but this is a minor detail to room temperature iq 'l33337 jihad d00dz'
mircea_popescu: absolutely run of the mill mitm attack - you credit erdos' ip, which results in a market for "erdos-like ips" which people buy FOR THE REASON that they ARE NOT erdos ; but wish nevertheless to get your packets sent over as if they were.
mircea_popescu: it is unmoglich! as the gent said
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform incidentally, re temperature : this is trivial for the box! there's this "weapon" idiocy of a beam which heats water in skin. not too practical as deployed, but perfectly usable in box - low latency.
mircea_popescu: from bmi 30 onwards, each lb of fat carries the same excise as 1 ton of gasoline.
mircea_popescu: does "we take them out back and shoot them if there's any sort of an emergency" count as a plan ?
BingoBoingo: "One spot that is getting more foot traffic than usual is the Jefferson County Jail, which is apparently an official in-game Pokestop, a place where players can gather items and catch Pokemon. One observer recalls seeing players staring at their phones as they walked around the jail's parking lot." http://www.riverfronttimes.com/artsblog/2016/07/14/pokemon-are-popping-up-in-strange-places-around-st-louis
a111: Logged on 2016-07-17 00:57 mircea_popescu: actually a proper, accelerometer based, precision instrument (glove ?) as described here seems a required item, thinking about it.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-17#1503939 << gloves suck donkey cock, for same reason as laser keyboard etc. -- no mechanical resistance, no damper. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: actually a proper, accelerometer based, precision instrument (glove ?) as described here seems a required item, thinking about it. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: and as phf can no doubt tell you, only orcs vocalize /ʎ/ as /ʃ/. and the worst kind, too.
mircea_popescu: (similarly argentines don't read ll/y properly, but as sh instead. hence /saˈkate la moˈʧiʃa/ instead of the god given /saˈkate la moˈʧiʎa/.)
mircea_popescu: this is what hillary & friends at state perceived as their "nuclear option".
mircea_popescu: hanno boeck ( http://trilema.com/2016/psa-hanno-bock-still-a-deceitful-shitbag/ ) definitely hoax. turkish "coup", not hoax - major usg.dos success. as far as those go these days.