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asciilifeform: i confess to never having given enough of a fuck re the eth circus to keep track in real time. but fortunately ~somebody~ did...
Framedragger: "Someone could trick an autonomous agent into calling get_free_money() at the end of a very long call stack, such that thesend fails, and the agent would lose its money to this contract." etc
Framedragger: asciilifeform: and apparently this particular "such recursion" flaw had already been spotted in a 2015 securiti audit? https://github.com/LeastAuthority/ethereum-analyses/blob/master/GasEcon.md#callstack-depth-limit-errors
mircea_popescu: must suck to want to matter THIS BADLY and yet not be able to
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform lulz of all time : the thing you linked links to qntra via a NOT CLICKABLE reference to https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2s2utx/the_hard_fork_missile_crisis/cnlqcd
asciilifeform: also wtf, buterin hired some imbecile to write the dao thing?!
Framedragger: ooh imma read upthread, didn't see that bit
Framedragger: not that it matters, to a point
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: btw just fyi that sig on that pastebin post is probably all wrong, https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/4oo1io/an_open_letter_from_the_hacker/d4e7efq - just sayin
Framedragger: > realdaoattacker [ba17b74e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.186.23.183.78] entered the room.
mircea_popescu: in other news, trilema servers can apparently take 100k surges without even hiccuping. nb.
Bugpowder: ok… uhhh… I’ll ask more questions once i got gpg running and I get stuk. tx
mircea_popescu: and once you do it, be a darling and put a page on the wiki, for the next guy.
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder btw, there's no ident. we got rid of state. all you do is decrypt a message.
Bugpowder: Keys recovered. Now should only take me 2-8 more hours to figure out how to setup gpg and ident…
Bugpowder: Now to pull the keys off the old machine… Hey it turned on, a good sign!
Bugpowder: not gribble tho, but deedbot? New bot. Can u point me to faq if one exists.
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder yes, you must be in the bot's wot.
mircea_popescu: you can self-voice, pm the bot $up then $v
asciilifeform: ^ this still dun do nuffin, eh
mircea_popescu: win-win, as they say.
mircea_popescu: and when i finally croak ima go to saint peter an' say loudly an' clearly "what are you droning on about, old man, i didn't do nuttin'. ASK ANYONE!" ☟︎
mircea_popescu: pretty lulzy though. i certainly had a nice saturday morning
asciilifeform: so naturally that's where all of the squid ink must be directed.
asciilifeform: the ur-threat to muppet is the man of will
mircea_popescu: slutty wife prays "god, let me be pregnant or not, but in either case please don't let my husband figure out HOW". socialist prays "god, let the etherape happen or not, but in either case please don't let THE BAD GUY have done things!"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it is rather notable though that the largest threat perceived by muppets and their drivers alike is "mp doing things". far, FAR above you know, their shitpile collapsing in a loud mess, the ONE thing that's worth expending the unhappeningium is, mp!
asciilifeform: (roughly in the vein of paragraph1 of http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1108 )
asciilifeform: the parallels are astonishingly close and i've thought about writing whole monograph about it
asciilifeform: as they sizzled, sizzled.
asciilifeform: drunks could grab hold of the wire and become phamous
mircea_popescu: the only thing worse than having something to talk about being not having something to talk about.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the advantage of crypto - it allows one to make absolute statements, but people dunno how to use it, so it at least gives them something to talk about.
realdaoattacker: Thanks for the article in Trilema mircea_popescu
mircea_popescu: don't tell me, let me guess...
thestringpuller: let the price plummet
thestringpuller: fud is the fuel of volatility
asciilifeform: that was the suggested lul yes
daoattacker: asciilifeform, because i'm not the attacker, LOL. yet people ate it up.
mircea_popescu: let 'em pump it to an imaginary billion fiats and get all politically invested in it first, naimean.
mircea_popescu: 200k, not the sort of commitment worth the chase.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: re alts from earlier thread, seems like usg already just now picked successor turdcoin: https://www.dhs.gov/science-and-technology/news/2016/06/17/st-awards-199k-austin-based-factom-inc-iot-systems-security ☟︎
daoattacker: but I wrote the pastebin, the signature is fake ;)
daoattacker: what's hilarious is that the signature isn't even valid
daoattacker: thanks for the trilema mircea_popescu
asciilifeform: or he went out to put moar petrol in the 2-cycle unhappenator motor.
mircea_popescu: check out all teh butthurt.
mircea_popescu gloats over how his lines read better retrospectively than prospectively. THIS is true literature, and i doubt very much one in a hundred "genius writers" and other revered authors of yore qualify.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-17 14:08 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform next, watch the usg agents derping about how "cryptocurrency is dead because our shitscheme imploded" ; and once that goes nowhere, watch them come back to bitcoin to "fix" the "consensus problems" it "has".
thestringpuller: enforce the soft fork, and let the dao holder suffer.
thestringpuller: so the mineres may not
asciilifeform: eh you can prolly buy ~handful~ for the advertised quote
mircea_popescu: well, these numbers are a) arbitrary and b) unbacked.
mircea_popescu: hey, even ripple is still there. "one day".
mircea_popescu: nothing ever truly dies, just falls to the bottommost layer of the dumb ocean.
asciilifeform: or is this more of a 'that is not dead which can eternal lie'
mod6: "here, try this rubber popsicle"
asciilifeform: lel is that toilet plunger ?
mircea_popescu: but in other "visual etherape news for the illiterate generation", http://67.media.tumblr.com/36e00e3012c6f7f252b86d785f444e79/tumblr_o4ja87GL7E1vo212ao1_400.gif
mod6: heheh, someday when i buy the hog and cattle farms
asciilifeform: mats: this doesn't solve the problem in a guaranteed way, as the thing has been known to crash
mod6: i'll think on this a bit while scraping biological gunk out of metal things.
mats: more advice for the future: buy a ups.
mod6: maybe there is something that can be written to heal the index.
mod6: this is almost worth me like creating a development environment where I can take a copy of chain and just do some playing around on there. even with a broken chain.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform has it though. bdb keeps a rather dubious index structure.
mircea_popescu: mod6 dun worry eh, teh republic's eternal.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-18 16:15 mod6: i may try to find some time yet this weekend to take a look at this blkcut thing -- this may be away to roll life saving numbers on your block chain after a power outage in the future.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-18#1484545 << pretty sure it is the ~index~ that gets hosed, not the blocks ☝︎
mod6: was wondering if it makes some sense to do that.
mod6: asciilifeform: ok. im thinking about a new feature for your tool, or perhaps, a new tool altogether.
thestringpuller: np. it's a matter of time
mod6: i'll be back around later. best of luck thestringpuller
mod6: was so glad to finally be done, as of 5 minutes ago. but now, have to go clean gutters :/
mod6: sorry i've been afk much of the week. have been pulling super long days shit-shoveling.
thestringpuller: good advice for the future.
mod6: something like that. does this make sense?
mod6: so if your block index goes from 385,000 to 408,000, you could tell it "407,000" and then the output would contain everything from 385,000 to 407,000
mod6: but it'd be a much better tool to just produce a new file with all blocks in the original previous to block n.
mod6: you could just ditch the entire latest one (numerically)
mod6: s/in the future/after adding a feature/
thestringpuller: damn. i should have tried that
mod6: i may try to find some time yet this weekend to take a look at this blkcut thing -- this may be away to roll life saving numbers on your block chain after a power outage in the future. ☟︎
mod6: i think others have had problems with the same exact thing. power goes out -> bad things may happen.
thestringpuller: i don't think anything was wrong with that build just power outage corruption.
thestringpuller: then we go from there
thestringpuller: so i'll jus tstart synching from ascii's node then i'll swap out for SSD once it picks up
mod6: thestringpuller: anyway, i get that you're "pissed" as you said the other day. if this is production server, you need to have some sort of backups indeed imo. if this is development, well, it's all part of the fun.
mod6: maybe that'd fix his problem.
mod6: ok. cool. yeah, was thinking it'd be cool if we could get his blockchain height, say 408,001 and then chop off the last say, 1000 blocks so he'd be starting at 407,001
asciilifeform: mod6: easiest thing is just to set extract = 1 only when n = B, where B is the block you want.
asciilifeform: there's nothing else to do but looks at every block up to N and wind forward s bytes
mod6: im got my hands full. am asking for thestringpuller who seems to be struggling
mod6: well, im kinda trying to .. lol in a short cut way (without having to try to actually use it)
asciilifeform: but you can trivially add a feature that skips n blocks
asciilifeform: to the -moon !
mod6: asciilifeform: hey (i think I've asked this before) but; the blkcut utility doesn't allow a guy to exacto-knife one block out of a blkindex file does it?
thestringpuller: how to kill a 1.5bn dollar bubble overnight, the buterin waterfall story
thestringpuller: he halted all trading
asciilifeform: l0l! nailing the doors shut didn't help?!111