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asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: relatedly, at one point i found out that chinchilla fur hat is banned in usa. ( never learned specifically why )

BingoBoingo: In other local weird today I learned the locals consider Chinchillas a type of rabbit rather than the rodent they are

asciilifeform: hm, i suppose 1 possible theory, 'flying police' shot without Official order

asciilifeform: re f15 -- i'm at a loss for why the seekrecy re the shooting of the thing

mircea_popescu: yeah. not the end of the world, mostly making the point that people rarely get the text right. "oh, i didn't realise what this was gonna do" sorta thing

asciilifeform didn't initially notice, i have these switched off on the box where read the lul

asciilifeform: ( veeery selective, and consistent, and on technical matters entirely passable, i oughta note )

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: about a decade ago, i bought, on a lark, a keychain thing that claimed to contain all of the text of the then-pediwikia, and had 'random' button. ~99+% of presses of this button, resulted in 'flyshit, montana'-type nowhere-village article. ☟︎

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-13#1841199 << i'd say that's a typical offering. there's similar pages on ~every small town in the woods, and on the basis of this mass then there's ~entirely similar~ articles on elite topics. ☝︎

asciilifeform: tbh i expected a bit moar output, from 27mil keyz

a111: Logged on 2018-08-13 01:31 asciilifeform: what i'ma end up doing, is to factor all of the small composites, remove'em from db, enter the factors instead, and henceforth never enter composites into factor table.

a111: Logged on 2018-08-12 23:37 asciilifeform: the huawei crapola, for instance, i'm quite convinced at this point would be 100% breakable if anybody got hold of a unit and forced it to generate keys 24/7 for a coupla months

BingoBoingo: That's where I saw it

Mocky: #eulora for one. personally i thought the asciiart dick bird dunking a basketball was a bit much but hey

asciilifeform: what i'ma end up doing, is to factor all of the small composites, remove'em from db, enter the factors instead, and henceforth never enter composites into factor table. ☟︎

asciilifeform: ok, output is happening. up side : there's output, that there was not before. down side : so far all of it is small change crapolade. i'ma really have to do a mod-by-mod walk and gcd(mod, 8192bit primorial from oldthread) . and henceforth on submission. cuz this is lame.

BingoBoingo: I'll have to start reading the phuctor chunks from the bottom up

asciilifeform: the huawei crapola, for instance, i'm quite convinced at this point would be 100% breakable if anybody got hold of a unit and forced it to generate keys 24/7 for a coupla months ☟︎☟︎

a111: Logged on 2017-02-07 18:49 asciilifeform: hanbot: conceivably, a sabotaged generator that yields 2**32 possible keys, will result in ~0 natural collisions, and remain invisible to phuctor unless i first find it via some other means.

lobbes: http://blog.lobbesblog.com/2018/07/auctionbot-eta-and-status-report/#selection-71.0-71.11 << update: I have completed a successful test run of an external .py script communicating on IRC via logbot and the listen/notify mechanisms of postgres. Best part is that I've got a solid foundation for bot command handling as a result of the testing. Blog post soon on the details of playing 'ping-pong' with logbot and postgres as the paddle

BingoBoingo: <mod6> Let's think on it anyway. I guess worst case, BingoBoingo could take a day trip to BSAS and buy some drives. << They aren't cheaper over there

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform really, i wouldn't put that much finnicking into it.

a111: Logged on 2018-08-12 18:30 asciilifeform: i had this knob on the implementation conveyor regardless, because of a certain peculiarity of bernstein's algo which i noticed, where if there is an even multiple of any given factor present in the whole, it will not get found

mod6: Whatever we don't spend will be returned to Pizarro, or I suppose can be held in fiat if need be.

a111: Logged on 2018-08-12 18:29 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: depending on how long it takes to get disks, we can do what i suggested a while back ( but for some reason can't dig up, in l0gz) where we trade space for time, and run on randomized subsets of the db continuously

mod6: Let's think on it anyway. I guess worst case, BingoBoingo could take a day trip to BSAS and buy some drives.

mod6: I'm reluctant to order more drives back to back until we can confirm we can actually receive a shipment.

mod6: And then we still have no spares until BingoBoingo can place another order. Which I'm fine with, but still leaves us kinda in a sticky spot.

asciilifeform: mod6: that's what i was thinking

mod6: BingoBoingo should be ordering drives within a day or so from the btc I sent him on friday.

mod6: i dunno, I just put in a checkin with him in #pizarro to see about the refund. best case, he got the refund and can ship more drives, perhaps today even.

asciilifeform: mod6: drive shortage will have to be cured ; if i gotta fly with crate of disks, even.

asciilifeform: i had this knob on the implementation conveyor regardless, because of a certain peculiarity of bernstein's algo which i noticed, where if there is an even multiple of any given factor present in the whole, it will not get found ☟︎

a111: Logged on 2018-08-12 17:09 mod6: Sincen we only have ~one~ spare remaining on hand until we get our other drive shipments, I kinda wanna hang on to the foundation

mod6: <+mircea_popescu> http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-12#1841047 << ok, but i mean, can't have phuctor grind to a stop because of it neh ? << If it's critical, it's critical, and will sell disk to S.NSA. ☝︎

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: depending on how long it takes to get disks, we can do what i suggested a while back ( but for some reason can't dig up, in l0gz) where we trade space for time, and run on randomized subsets of the db continuously ☟︎

asciilifeform: 10tb mech disks are ~400bux where i sit

a111: Logged on 2018-08-12 17:09 mod6: Sincen we only have ~one~ spare remaining on hand until we get our other drive shipments, I kinda wanna hang on to the foundation

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-12#1841047 << ok, but i mean, can't have phuctor grind to a stop because of it neh ? ☝︎

mircea_popescu: i'm not strictly against the configuration, put four large disks on it w/e. see what pizarro says too, but i'm amenable.

asciilifeform: when i provisioned the boxes, eater operated at ~10 units / sec, instead of 150 .

mircea_popescu: or else yes i agree s.nsa can afford more drives if it wants them

mircea_popescu: what am i agreeing with here ? yes i agree pizarro should have on hand a dozen of each type of disk it uses, at the least. and yes as per ancient http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-13#1825188 it seems a good move for it. ☝︎

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform connection's been shit, i suspect they're "fighting spam"

asciilifeform: i've a irc bot also, but currently just short of working, connection drops

asciilifeform: i'ma not ask for anyffing to be bought until mircea_popescu wakes up.

mod6: Sincen we only have ~one~ spare remaining on hand until we get our other drive shipments, I kinda wanna hang on to the foundation ☟︎☟︎

asciilifeform: only the typical 5v one ( i.e. needs lappy-sized drive )

BingoBoingo: mod6: I'll dig out the cabinet inventory

lobbesbot: mod6: Sent 1 hour and 53 minutes ago: <asciilifeform> do we have spare ssd remaining ? i'ma need one asap, running out of temp storage .

a111: Logged on 2018-08-12 15:05 asciilifeform: !Q later tell mod6 do we have spare ssd remaining ? i'ma need one asap, running out of temp storage .

mod6: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-12#1841025 << Well, I'm under the impression that there might be a spare for the bitcoin foundation. ☝︎

asciilifeform: meanwhile... i'ma do a speshul singleshot run with ~only~ mats parcel1 (i.e. minus errything prior to june) as input , just to get a sense of what lies ahead. output will appear in #asciilifeform later today.

asciilifeform: ... in fact, loox like there won't be any moar phuctor output until i get a 1TB disk hooked up ( will have to be on a usb snake, luckily i left BingoBoingo with one -- as all 4 drive bays on dulap are full )

asciilifeform: !Q later tell mod6 do we have spare ssd remaining ? i'ma need one asap, running out of temp storage . ☟︎

asciilifeform: aaanyway i'ma bbl : meat .

asciilifeform: ( i'ma see what mircea_popescu thinks )

asciilifeform: thing is fast enuff that i prolly oughta give it a proper api thing

asciilifeform: lobbes: naaah, too cheap. i can already picture 'mandatory solutions', $100K eyeball scanners in ignition locks & whatever crocks of shit, make $50k 'cesna' cost 150 , etc

asciilifeform: '"Nah, I mean, I don't need that much help. I've played some video games before," the man responds.'

asciilifeform: 'Earlier in the flight, the man says: "This is probably like jail time for life, huh? I mean, I would hope it is, for a guy like me." "Well," a controller responds, "we're not going to worry or think about that. But could you start a left-hand turn, please?"' << gold

asciilifeform: lobbes: i suspect they'll have usg.net-connected hotel-style locks before long.

asciilifeform: aaaand lol, just as i said this, realized that index gen will bring the machine to its knees for coupla hr.

mircea_popescu: i wonder wtf that was all about.

viznut: allright, so this is starting to get much deeper than i expected. will need some time to explore

viznut: this channel was mentioned at loper-os.org, which i stumbled upon via http://worrydream.com/why-2017-05-08/ which i found by doing some searches on myself

asciilifeform: ( all i found is, lol, http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-31#1761693 ) ☝︎

mircea_popescu: "I've discovered batter for southern style biscuits." << lmao. 000 and beyonds fine ground flour is for pastry. coarser ground works best for bread.

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-10#1840904 << i fear he has it exactly right... the intent is not "omfg we're fucked" but precisely "oh noes we matter [enough to...]". ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2018-08-10 21:07 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-10#1840849 << these are not stories of abuse, these are war stories "what i do matters". it's such a huge part of the lore that i wouldn't be surprised if the hotel mgmt does it to attract more of an attention to the event. you mean i get to hang out with dangerous hackers??

asciilifeform: phf: in that case i have Great Biznis Ideas !11 why not, e.g., feed erry 10th one to pirannhas .

phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-10#1840849 << these are not stories of abuse, these are war stories "what i do matters". it's such a huge part of the lore that i wouldn't be surprised if the hotel mgmt does it to attract more of an attention to the event. you mean i get to hang out with dangerous hackers?? ☝︎☟︎

deedbot: http://trilema.com/2018/yes-bitch-i-would-bring-it/ << Trilema - Yes, bitch, I would. Bring it.

mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-08-10 07:01 adlai: at the risk of sounding like a lightly-chipped (for the broken don't spin too good) record: i'd be glad to rent the new rockchip. i promise this time to think before i type, and not play the shitty music too loud.

asciilifeform: http://logs.bvulpes.com/pizarro?d=2018-8-10#412082 << adlai : folx on mircea_popescu's list of the officially sad, can't lease boxen, i thought this was clear

asciilifeform: cool. i'ma prepare the requisites then, when $otherend is up.

mircea_popescu: sucks for the reich. i just come from one, had brass key for the door and steel key for the safe on the ring.

a111: Logged on 2018-08-10 15:04 mircea_popescu: this, btw, is why you DO NOT WANT "electronic" key. wtf is this dumb shit, "key no longer works" ? i paid for a fucking day, i own the fucking lease, you can have your room again tomorrow when im done with it AND NOT BEFORE. jesus fuck wtf is wrong with these people.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-10#1840833 << i expect we'll publish buncha pr0n of the thing, once it starts working ☝︎

mircea_popescu: none of this is "at will". if i rent a room, i bought the option, that's that.

mircea_popescu: this, btw, is why you DO NOT WANT "electronic" key. wtf is this dumb shit, "key no longer works" ? i paid for a fucking day, i own the fucking lease, you can have your room again tomorrow when im done with it AND NOT BEFORE. jesus fuck wtf is wrong with these people. ☟︎

a111: Logged on 2018-08-10 13:15 asciilifeform: e.g. diff chump at same rubber chicken fest, 'Because I declined to have maid service in my hotel room at BlackHat, two security guys came to my room and demanded I open my door and let them do a walkthrough search'

kaniini: i agree that it would be nice to require SMS or something else to register

a111: Logged on 2018-08-04 22:25 mircea_popescu: anyway, tbh i'm mostly encouraging the utter collapse of freenode's "security" model. it should be obvious that lode/ae dorks could just as well REGISTER the spambots. it's a fully automated process, what's the problem, emails ? gimme a break.

asciilifeform: e.g. diff chump at same rubber chicken fest, 'Because I declined to have maid service in my hotel room at BlackHat, two security guys came to my room and demanded I open my door and let them do a walkthrough search' ☟︎

mircea_popescu: reasonably, yes. but possibly ? no ? how do i know.

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-10#1840769 << nonprime e per se dun make for simple break ( tho it tends to go along with other sad, which is why i mark'em in phuctor ) ☝︎

Mocky: so in reading the logs I see that musl is a libc which is smaller and stricter than glibc. is there such a thing for c++ standard library or is it not needed?

kaniini: i can create one i suppose

kaniini: i don't

kaniini: i wonder if checking exponent on these huawei keys will be interesting

kaniini: mircea_popescu i mean, it will open a terminal channel and dump you into a login(1) type program, instead of rejecting the password

kaniini: i'd say at least half of the ips i have seen are like that

kaniini: i guess, the question is, i wonder if we can check somehow in real time

kaniini: i didn't bother to check the keys yet

mircea_popescu: i hope you don't mind the quote.

mircea_popescu: ~relevant bit being i guess "<kaniini> now that's a nick i haven't seen in a while. there is already https://github.com/kaniini/antissh that pops most of them. this stuff about keys is interesting though"

kaniini: well, i am not surprised by the finding that the keys are weak, given it is embedded shitboxes

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform fellow's about to discover phuctor, i guess.