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asciilifeform: diana_coman: it is now taught as official state of the art, believe it:
mircea_popescu: no but wait. WHY is it that programmers don't write like mp.
diana_coman: in my days at uni I failed students precisely because of trying that idea
asciilifeform: diana_coman: we had a thread re programming as medieval medicine. it is in the logs...
asciilifeform: diana_coman: there are maybe 20 programmers then.
diana_coman: not monkeys pressing levers until the light turns on or whatever
diana_coman: in my book programmers are exactly those who write code as a rational creation
asciilifeform: hanbot: what can i say, he didn't buy the 'seekrit evidence' and now sees mircea_popescu as вредитель etc. and very tiresomely repetitive.
diana_coman: asciilifeform> other reason is that most programmers don't write code in the sense that, e.g., mircea_popescu writes essays. instead, they take a shit, and strip away elements of the shit until the compiler is happy and the 'tests' pass. <- fwiw I don't think that those are programmers
mircea_popescu: hanbot nuca nu-ntelegi tu umorul &c. it's all a ploy!
hanbot: maybe we're talking of very different people, or whatever. but i've never seen or heard of anyone more effervescently challenging of other's illusions than mp. ☟︎
asciilifeform: and the still-tuned-in #t folk, to lesser extent
hanbot: for that matter Framedragger i start on that dpaste out of curiosity, run into "Getting out of the way: The most basic level is based on avoidingchallenging others’ delusions, and factoring them into your own thinking. The “organizing” merely involves arranging matters so things and people you care about are moved out of the way of an impending train wreck."
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: he's working the stay-behind folks.
mircea_popescu: anyway, ima fish out "how #b-a started" later, it's like two lines.
mircea_popescu: lol. why's he keep lying anyway ? it didn't work the previous n times, gonna work next ?
hanbot: "ftr when he joined this place, it was purely about business and so was he. later he was wrapping business in propaganda, which is tolerable, as the core is solid. now he is wrapping propaganda in business wrap, at which point it becomes intolerable for any reasonable mind." << i don't, for example, seem to remember the same thing. at all.
hanbot: i find the hypocrisy outrageous. so i guess i care.
asciilifeform: rather than as any kind of rational creation.
asciilifeform: other reason is that most programmers don't write code in the sense that, e.g., mircea_popescu writes essays. instead, they take a shit, and strip away elements of the shit until the compiler is happy and the 'tests' pass.
hanbot: lol kakobrekla is still in his self-justifying tailspin i see?
asciilifeform: proggy does not compress. head does not have the handy lossy compressor, as for human text. ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2016-06-23 09:54 mircea_popescu: ps : why is "common wisdom" in agreement that "no man could possibly hold 1mn lines of code in head" when i actually have 10mn words worth of trilema articles in my head ?
mircea_popescu: anyway, for argentine as well as any derps who have nfi what "night life" means : follow along the fucking pictures http://www.clujlife.com with the knowledge that a) the nudes aren't published, by convention, but girls go naked all the time ; b) it's a tiny fucking town, half a mil population if the school's in session.
mircea_popescu: Climategate, another thing that "didn't happen".
mircea_popescu: Framedragger well yeah but this was a specific lulzpocalypse.
mircea_popescu: no charges were pressed, of course, because silk road is totally where crime happens, rather than the back offices of each and every single ivy league "college" / real estate scam
Framedragger: yeahyeah the whole weather modelling in the future based on specific chosen parameters and models is hilarious, and gets regurgitated by media etc, i too have general aversion to this; does not mean that all of it is useless but hell if they don't show how they got there then that's even more ridiculous
mircea_popescu: (that were trying to take over the public spending in this field)
mircea_popescu: and b) a RICO-worthy criminal conspiracy, replete with fraud etc, to marginalize, intimidate and if need be assassinate "opponents" as defined by a group of nuts ☟︎
mircea_popescu: a) a model that you could put anything in, such as the weighs or the ages of your past girflriends, to take out the same exact pattern
mircea_popescu: then people hilary clinton'd their servers, and found
mircea_popescu: they wouldn't share the model
mircea_popescu: what they had done was, take ~50 years of atmospheric data, "reconstruct" on its basis about 100k years of imaginary history, then show on the basis of this projection rebranded as "data" that TEMPERATURES ARE RAISING!!11\
mircea_popescu: back in 2010ish, some derps from us academia came with "proof" of the (at the time still called) global warming nonsense, in the shape of a much-loved-bymedia "golf cross pattern". ☟︎
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: heh can't find much on the internets for "golf club pattern" indeed, but also don't get its initial idea/appeal? O.O
a111: Logged on 2015-06-08 15:46 jurov: they have api limit 6000/hour
Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2015-06-08#1157231 << i haven't checked but apparently https://github.com/torvalds.keys is available? not sure if helpful at this point, if already scraped etc, and maybe this posses other problems (user enumeration, additional rate-limiting etc) ☝︎
mircea_popescu: seriously though, one of the best meta-patterns. "this is how stupid people think things go." sort-of like the matchbox sign in clinical psychopathology : once you see the guy bringing you little boxes you know he's got Morgellons ; once he whips out the golf club patterns you know he's got stupid.
mircea_popescu: http://ctrl-d.ro/app/uploads/2016/06/e388bdd9-0bf0-4a26-ba03-02657f521b72.jpg << check out the golf club pattern! which mysteriously disappeared from all literature (ie, fiction writing) on the subject (as well as google, "scientific" paper search engines etc) after it was so humiliatingly debunked. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: the notion that "navajo culture" is ridiculous on its face. it's entirely built on equivocation between the term of art (EVERYTHING noetic is "a culture" in say anthropology) and the common term (no, the united states does not have a culture ; even if it has a civilisation. let alone fucking navajo - never had one, never could have had one.)
Framedragger: i suppose this is "fuck you am dragon" territory?
Framedragger: article literally starts with quote "Two-Spirit people balance society, the world, and the cosmos."
mircea_popescu: navajo feminist gender activism ? what the everloving.
Framedragger: ""My own work differentiates the mere intersection of Native and queer representations from a two-spirit gaze by noting a two-spirit gaze’s greater focus on traditionalist, nationalist, and activist representations of community-identified two-spirit images.7 Given a critical mass in two-spirit Navajo film and the strength of Navajo cultural, feminist, and gender activism, this article foregrounds Navajo LGBTQ2 gazes on two-spirit Navaj
Framedragger: the navajo gaze seems to originate at least in part from an article called something like the navajo spirit gaze
mircea_popescu: incredible how much empty noise three people can make, especially should they be the sort of people who couldn't ever find a job, once liberated from the need to look for one.
Framedragger: wikipedia mentions "navajo spirit" something something in connection with that acronym?!
mircea_popescu: oh, wait, there's also LGBTTTQQUAA! i kid you not!
mircea_popescu: Framedragger are these the "fuck you, i'm a dragon" nuts ?
Framedragger: 2 for two-spirited
Framedragger: "LGBTQ2 refers to people who identify as lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, queer/questioning or two-spirited."
mircea_popescu: meanwhile, they added another coupla letters to "lgbt" ? i wonder how long before it smashes the stack.
mircea_popescu: romanian "nazi" press is having all the conceivable lolz because "the boss of the faggot jews" (ie, LGBTQ mission to Israel) is one Kurlander. (cur = ass in romanian, the poor guy's name sounds exactly on the money)
Framedragger: ..soo, this generates ssh keys based on the broken debian prng: https://github.com/g0tmi1k/debian-ssh - github keyset has been matched against these - wonder about them host keys....
mircea_popescu: "if you let the sheep in, the sheep scent soon follows."
Framedragger: i just wanted to quote this exact sentence lol - yeah another fruity area
mircea_popescu: "However, a search on GitHub reveals thousands of results where code containing AWS secret keys can be found in plain text, which means anyone can access those accounts." ~ http://www.itnews.com.au/news/aws-urges-developers-to-scrub-github-of-secret-keys-375785
Framedragger: would still be curious to write/find a tool which detects low hanging fruit for EC ssh host keys / keys with shitty parameters
Framedragger: ahh i didn't look there
Framedragger: gov.uk too lol, though no surprise
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: if you mean "nobody smart", then that's one thing, but if you mean in terms of actual numbers, then i'd probably have to disagree. shitloads of ecdsa ssh host public keys anyway (stats and breakdown to be published at some point in teh future)
mircea_popescu: lol compromised in the attack : spotify, python core and crypto libs, django and ruby.
mircea_popescu: in other news, nobody uses ecdsa. considering what they spent trying to get people on it... such success.
Framedragger: "... to some really large and wide projects"
Framedragger: "After realising I have a public key database of most users on GitHub, I remembered back to the May 2008 Debian OpenSSH bug, where the randomness source was compromised to the point where the system could only generate one of 32k keys in a set. I used g0tmi1k’s set of keys to compare against what I had in my database, and found a very large amount of users who are still using vulnerable keys, and even worse, have commit access to some
mircea_popescu: Framedragger not a bad thing in any case.
mircea_popescu: speaking of that, asciilifeform any idea how it's possible that Submissions: 3305302 Known Moduli: 2708380 Moduli Waiting for Test: 3677 ? shouldn't these add up ? ☟︎
Framedragger: this also means that potentially a large amount of vulnerable/shit keys have been removed from github since then
Framedragger: jurov: have you seen this - analysis of github users ssh keys: https://blog.benjojo.co.uk/post/auditing-github-users-keys
BingoBoingo: Tis the redditard way
BingoBoingo: Using you loc allowance for Disney does that
mircea_popescu: holy shit the brainrot.
mircea_popescu: lol. and even better - he wanted to buy it, to show how easy it is. then it wasn't easy. but instead of publishing a piece about how "i thought it was easy - turns out it's not", he has a ...
BingoBoingo: Apparently they couldn't agree on which reserved words take precedence in the order of operations
mircea_popescu: i suppose that's how the whole soypizdi thing should go, too. "no ty, you're a dude" "I AM NOT A DUDE I AM A STUDENT!!!"
mircea_popescu: i don't get it. gun shop refused selling to alcoholic wifebeater, he identifies as "journalist" and butthurts all over ?
mircea_popescu: but yeah, this is a pretty good model. "natural language is just like a computer language that had no // or quotations." "so how do i know magic strings, and comments, from code ?" "your mother."
mircea_popescu: just because the comment-out is communicated in-band rather than explicitly given as // or whatever doesn't mean it's strongly typed.
BingoBoingo: WHen you start kicking errors because "just want to" makes soemthing overflow
BingoBoingo: Because you can quarentine nonsense as isolated strings and lol about them. If you can't do that they'd eventually start making you stupid.
mircea_popescu: how are they strongly typed ?
BingoBoingo: strongly typed and interpretable
BingoBoingo: Also natural languages are strongly typed.
mircea_popescu: so basically you're saying natural language works because interpretable rather than compiled ?
BingoBoingo: Like any other string that doesn't parse to meaningful code.
BingoBoingo: alf failed to pars the "just want to" and made a point of the statement not parsing. It's not made for parsing though because jwz just wants to. Nothing wrong with tossing around the "just wants to" as a string like any other though.
mircea_popescu: explain this one ?
BingoBoingo: alf tried to parse the jwz "just want to" as an instruction whereas you treated it as a antifact of the broken jwz
BingoBoingo: Some baskets hold water, others you get at the gift shop
BingoBoingo: Like how alf fails to parse the jwz "just want to"
BingoBoingo: Seriouly defect has to limit what they can hold
BingoBoingo: But you forgive their eggog rate
mircea_popescu: is this a perception problem, a language problem, what ?
mircea_popescu: ps : why is "common wisdom" in agreement that "no man could possibly hold 1mn lines of code in head" when i actually have 10mn words worth of trilema articles in my head ? ☟︎
BingoBoingo: But yeah the challenge is how to do editor's pics
BingoBoingo: you get to link yourself later for context
Framedragger: sounds like a good idea to me!
BingoBoingo: Anyways this is why people wanting to blog need to do it frequently beyond the reasons mp lays out here http://trilema.com/blogging-is-a-muscle-and-other-observations
mircea_popescu: maybe articles like that should include an "editor's pick" and then once a year we could total how well qntra did.