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mircea_popescu: dude ~maybe~, if i know them personally and care on some sort of level i might update some dork's gender. unless you invent fucking vlsi the odds aren't too good of that.
ben_vulpes: you won't even taste the poop anymore. it's really nice...
ben_vulpes: you don't want this nice abstraction layer?
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i don't really know what you're asking. his uses llvm-ir to tie into cpp, it's the ~whole point of it.
ben_vulpes: don't know?
asciilifeform: i can't really think of any excuse why the 'machine anchor' of common lisp HAS to be any bigger than, e.g., tinyscheme's
a111: Logged on 2017-01-23 21:47 asciilifeform: !~later tell phf do you know of any public cl implementation where all os-specific liquishit is reasonably compartmentalized ? (it isn't in sbcl, cmucl, or ccl, and did i miss anything..??)
danielpbarron: shinohai, it didn't. you need a colon between chapter and verse(s)
danielpbarron: i only have the one domain and it doesn't need changing so I rarely have to actually use the thing
danielpbarron: got a lot more unrates but maybe i'll keep those out of the chan as it's mostly just cleaning out names that i haven't seen in years
a111: Logged on 2016-01-20 04:34 danielpbarron: http://www.atruechurch.info/aa.html >> A.A. admits they have no cure, but that's because they are under the delusion that there isn't one.
mircea_popescu: well ? chicks loyal to her son's father which didn't do much for her yet nevertheless bb shouldn't be allowed to like the club that fixed a problem for him ?
asciilifeform: !~later tell phf do you know of any public cl implementation where all os-specific liquishit is reasonably compartmentalized ? (it isn't in sbcl, cmucl, or ccl, and did i miss anything..??) ☟︎
phf: namecheap just lost my domain records. i would not have known about it, if fastmail didn't send me a notification, that mx records have changed..
BingoBoingo: shinohai: The peter jokes are good, but the mentioned peter's just aren't people enough.
asciilifeform: which nonsense. (traditionally) the handlers don't even let near the wheel, anybody who showed symptoms of having so much as latent ability to tell usg to pack it
asciilifeform: it isn't intended to ~work~, srsly
asciilifeform: in other lulz: https://archive.is/THGQG >> 'Asked whether a missile had mis-fired, she said she was not going to get into "operational details" and would not say whether Mrs May had been told this. Questioned by the BBC's Andrew Marr on Sunday, Prime Minister Theresa May refused four times to say whether she had known about the test firing ahead of the vote. ... "There is a convention that we don't talk about the deterrent... because
phf: apropos, http://btcbase.org/log/?nick=phf will highlight all the messages from and to nick (it's half baked, like it doesn't get preserved when you switch pages, but i have the logs bookmarked that way, so that i can see if i got mentioned at a glance)
phf: "they don't come here" "we don't go there"
phf: i can kind of grok how my bethesda, maryland acquaintances didn't see it coming, but you live next door to blue collars, and you can't see it?
mircea_popescu: idly going through older trilemas we come upon http://trilema.com/2014/agency-and-other-notes/#selection-181.0-178.2 wherein mp predicts "go doesn't have a decade left in it", in 2014.
mircea_popescu: so talk to the spammers, buy a server farm setup with a few dozen ips and use it for your purpose purpose. as you won't get blacklisted nobody will give a shit. bout $50/ip/month is where the market is now, can readily bill your employer triple and if he won't pay ditch him on the spot.
Framedragger: (project is to build a 'roboadvisor' for real estate. use past real estate purchase price data to build time series, also use near-realtime rental data, combine all into a training set for a model which predicts what's worth to invest in. (not my project idea but i'll be doing some dev work for it.) will need to scrape things which don't particularly like to be scraped. need addresses. "make real estate more transparent")
mircea_popescu: yes but i don't particularly want money nor am i interested in supporting non-tmsr anything. so there's no upside for me whatsoever.
Framedragger: if by chance you actually 'own' them in the sense of having your contact info there in ripe db, they can be 'transferred'. i haven't done it before tho so may be talking nonsense?
Framedragger: quora is ~cancer in my books, and i have higher tolerance level than say alf. so that tells ya something :D but seriously, quora is a ridiculous site run by a ridiculous "company". to quote maciej / idlewords, "Quora's declared competitor is Wikipedia, a free site that not only doesn't make revenue, but loses so much money they have to ask for donations just to be broke. Recently, Quora raised $80 million in new funding at a $900 milli
Framedragger: (rehosted that particular post of his here: http://fd.mkj.lt/stuff/vc-21-jan-2017.html i don't think he'll mind. apparently he took a vacation after they seized his equipment)
Framedragger: re. vc blog, he's using a let's encrypt cert, and archive.is doesn't seem to like that cert also. :/
mircea_popescu: totally. it's not like "america" in the swj sense hasn't ever existed ; nor that rolling stone stopped mattering about the time mtv started airing. no, no, it's just that trump, thirty fucking years late to the party, "ruined" "things". what things ? the things hacks squatting an abandoned trade magazine hallucinated & confabulated into being, those things!
mircea_popescu: it's kind of funny to watch unintelligent narcissists observe their solipsist bubble popping. "oh the thing that didn't exist didn't exist and the random element which happened to pop it IS TO BLAME"
mircea_popescu: sadly his page doesn't load.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-21#1605954 << i dunno, i've seen some engines that lost oil monthly and i didn't think they were all that perfect. ☝︎
ben_vulpes: "i want a boat, are boats free?" "sure, baby! free boats!" "but what about the people who make the boats, shouldn't they get compensated for their labor?" "you mean their COERCED LABOR? in world of free, nobody works who doesn't want to work, and we all work for the joy of it!" "wait but then how do boats get made"
ben_vulpes: sex should be free is lulzy but you quickly veer into the "wait but most men aren't worth the lubrication"
trinque: didn't the ancestors of those people have that one?
ben_vulpes: makes them very uncomfortable and they don't quite understand why.
pete_dushenski: didn't we do this "jews ain't white" thing already
trinque looks out window, doesn't see anybody marching
pete_dushenski: wtf is this women's march bullshit. seriously. buncha herpyderpy broads had their chance to matter with bahamas and then with shillary. they can't actually believe that anyone cares anymore
mircea_popescu: i don't think i ever used it. anyway, run of the mill email provider, remarkable because loud refusal to hand over cert keys or some such
mircea_popescu: i don't think thought went into this
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: couldn't seem to find current zoolag ip in logs. only managed to find `72.82.9.184` as the last known IP
mircea_popescu: and what is with all these peasant feet anyway. they don't have heels where these women live ?
trinque: https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-0roefSIjONM/VuAFk1fyE4I/AAAAAAAAT3g/L7cjKrRkRwk/s320/foot-fetish-781439.jpg << I can't tell if this one is fetish for feet or accountants
mircea_popescu: you know, women having feet isn't perverse.
shinohai: didn't thestringpuller tell me she was a perv?
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron julia t looks great next to you thar.
mircea_popescu: (can have it sterling etc, so it doesn't tarnish. but srsly, work that rod girl!)
danielpbarron: doesn't silver tarnish?
mircea_popescu: im kind-of surprised they haven't yet come to the obvious sensible thing that is the silver dildo.
phf: yeah, the folder where logs are stored are exposed to public, i don't remember what the url is though, i'll have to check later
phf: i apologize for the bot, not sure what's going on (i guess i'm overdue for a crash) and i won't have access to machine for another four hours or so :/
asciilifeform: 'Flights full of women are marking their way to Washington, D.C. for the Women's March on Washington. On social media Friday, many people tweeted photos of airplanes predominantly filled with women on their way to D.C. The Women's March, which was planned to demonstrate solidarity following the election of Donald Trump, will take place on Saturday in D.C., and sister marches are planned for all 50 states and in 32 countries around t
Framedragger: (overkill if you say don't need the log-internal line reference thing in btcbase)
mircea_popescu: which still is the actually sane approach, people aren't happy with silent bot can use the other reference.
Framedragger: (i won't restart bot to manually enable btcbase quoatation right now as i may go afk soon, and when a111 comes back it'll be hell.)
Framedragger: a switch which can be operated by bot operator + l1 makes sense, then? (note, to avoid the whole "don't trust freenode to keep stateful maps", it'd have to do the challenge-response thing, which would be fun to do anyway on my part)
thestringpuller: is there any live TRB node that isn't blackholed right nao?!?
shinohai: Yeah poor indiancandy seems to have a hard time all around. Few paypigs knocking and she won't do penetration with toys, so .....
asciilifeform: can't help but think of http://trilema.com/2016/xkcd
Framedragger: yes mebbe #bitcoin-otc is a better place; if only it weren't dead...
davout: in the meantime the indiancandy chick is apparently trying to recruit paypigs on twitter, doesn't seem to be working out that well
asciilifeform: lol mr t must have toothache or sumthing
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform isn't it notable how ~none of these fail to share both factors ?
mod6: i'm making some good progress on my V changes this week. hopefully won't be too long be for I can help you out with any wallet related things you might be doing on trb.
mircea_popescu: (the official line btw is that "the polls weren't off by much, because clinton got 2% of popular vote vs 4-5% predicted". supposedly incredible ineptitude on an unseen-before scale is to be pivoted into "we're still right, smart and the icons of humanity ; the electoral system is rigged" and this'll somehow fly because the democrat voting bloc doesn't form memories for longer than half a week and nobody else properly speaking
mircea_popescu: can't fucking ping my own fucking servers. IDIOTS.
Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-20#1605500 << i've heard good things about zumdahl, but haven't vetted myself ☝︎
asciilifeform: so, if it's an x86 box, this means that no opcode executes on it, from cradle to grave, that didn't come out of (hypothetical) compiler with mandatory bounds/type checks.
asciilifeform: mod6: i can't speak for others, but i specifically am interested in a ~0-c~ box.
asciilifeform: defective in all kinds of ways but it isn't as if another is to be had.
phf: this is not really the case with scheme, T, clojure, etc.
mod6: well, yeah, but arn't all scheme interpreters built with C?
phf: asciilifeform: i wonder how much of scar was removed in sbcl. i know while newman was still hacking, he removed a lot of gunk. i vaguely suspect that cmucl can't be improved without tackling the bootstrapping problem, which is probably going to look very similar to sbcl's solution
asciilifeform: now, it isn't as if i had a better cltron to offer.
phf: girl couldn't figure out how i can eat so much (now) and not gain any weight was a mystery. few weeks ago a lightbulb "ooooh, it all goes to thinking!"
mircea_popescu: yesterday was a 2 gallon pot of bolognese with smoked mozarella. today was 7 sushi rolls. this isn't counting the pastries, cookies, cocktails etc.
mod6: don't fuck with a guys meat.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no dude, it's literally roast beast, can't fool us.
mircea_popescu: ahahah. so "in point of fact tinyscheme doesn't"
mircea_popescu: i don't recall, what was the objection to tinyscheme as the root ?
phf: i'm pretty sure he was doing around the same time as you were doing loper, so i'm surprised you haven't seen it. i think he might've been doing it under TUNES umbrella
phf: asciilifeform: there are text files (he makes adequate technical logs of most of his efforts. i'm using his notes to recreate arm port for cmucl), but i won't be able to find them at the moment (i'm not on my main machine)
mircea_popescu: the problem with "string" isn't there just to fuck with mp's ai bot.
mircea_popescu: but they can't.
phf: i didn't know what stm32 was, i thought it was some PIC variation
phf: it uses the word "modern" a lot, but from cursory glance it doesn't look insane
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-19#1605315 << yet shouldn't be overlooked that several folks came to play immediately when there was a shared repl available ☝︎
mircea_popescu: i guess i haven't worn these since i was last on roof.
mircea_popescu: incidentally, if the various dreppers etcs actually had any friends, the whole rot wouldn't exist in the first place.
mircea_popescu: i don't insist re implementation ; was just included as example
asciilifeform: i don't disagree.
mircea_popescu: i don't want the functionality exposed.
mircea_popescu: that doesn't mean the cpu die must be cast in such a way as to allow anyone else to do it.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-19#1605192 << this wouldn't hurt anything. ☝︎
thestringpuller: btcbase search didn't show it from browser. weird.
phf: you could maybe put cmucl's interpreter vm into l0, have vops as operations that you need but that you don't have in a vm (simd, floating point)
phf: re cmucl threads i think that it doesn't always preempt correctly. like it has explicit yield, which you don't always have to call, but it being there implies. also hunchentoot wasn't working right without putting a yield somewhere in the scheduler. it's all very vague, because i've not spend any time looking at it
phf: well, you were right, it's the lack of threads. you can't build for cmucl green threads like it's native.