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mircea_popescu: people who do shipping know where proper loading docks are. you don't give them one of those, you don't trade.
asciilifeform: so i get them in my corp addr.
mircea_popescu: not so : they'll ask where you want it delivered, you'll give a residential address, they'll drop the inquiry.
asciilifeform: but yes some items are prolly only available by the megatonne.
asciilifeform: i beg to differ.
mircea_popescu: if the log scatters of discussions of my buys hasn't illuminated the matter yet lol.
asciilifeform: like so many tonnes of bauxite
asciilifeform: well real estate is supposedly this thing that you can buy with money
mircea_popescu: so then what's all this to do with what we were discussing.
asciilifeform: was my thought.
asciilifeform: five tonnes of promise, 0 gram of goodz.
mircea_popescu: problem is they might have figured you're not in the demo.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i thought you were getting merged visits and stuff ?
mircea_popescu: title ? none of these people ever had or wish to ever have title to anything.
asciilifeform: a few dozen folks promising to return call, and 0 did.
asciilifeform: a couple days ago i did experiment, 'what is the cheapest box one can buy title to in bmore, where the roof is intact and inside is not full of vermin and rubble'
asciilifeform: the 'baltimore workshops' thread
mircea_popescu: i think the convo might have spliced. what do you mean ?
asciilifeform: or is this a 'seekrit evidence', 'your prices are not the real prices!1111' thing
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform same place you get the young whores. hipster part of town.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-27 18:17 phf: you get a balmore workshop not because it's a conan thing to do, but because you're insane and need to paint astral vaginas whether or not there's market for it, and you can afford to pay $90/mo (sometimes late) for your apartment and $100/mo (mostly late) for your studio
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-27#1491353 << can be had by the 100s for 100s. ☝︎
asciilifeform: not as if there is any shortage of these.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-29 05:29 mircea_popescu: the stupid consist of cents and dimes, sum to a thousand dollars if that.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-29#1492644 << amusingly, judging by the comment count on the official announcement of the latest blunder ("for best results running our fix for the attack - please don't run it at all!"), even 1k total seems exaggerated. ethereum is dead as disco, will take at least 6 months to re-inflate. prolly more like 18. and i somehow doubt the "many years spanned by experience in experience" people have t ☝︎
mircea_popescu: so drone wants to be ant rather than bee. whoopee. still drone.
mircea_popescu: still the same substance. i entertain no distinction.
asciilifeform: aha them
mircea_popescu: eh, the ones that start in engineering / actual work roles usually end up "managing" a project/team, not really selected for chen minjness.
asciilifeform: tunnel vision to the max
asciilifeform: strictly technical
asciilifeform: at least in asciilifeform's experience, these folks are entirely disjoint with the 'sexism politruk' etc. business
asciilifeform: though not this
mircea_popescu: aha. usually they start as http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-28#1491735 and advance from there. ☝︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i worked with these folks for many years.
mircea_popescu: they're usually central/east asians for a good reason : the "government is all things" mentality is not commonly found outside of that shithole. there, it's part of the culture.
mircea_popescu: it's an underclass of capons the empire is promoting, the equivalent of the roman libertus.
a111: Logged on 2015-11-15 00:40 mircea_popescu: http://www.anderson.ucla.edu/faculty/finance/faculty/chowdhry << in case you're wondering what the vermin usg has created looks like.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the minj chick is the equivalent of the akshay aggarwal doofus. recall the fabulous case of the famous mr chowdhry http://btcbase.org/log/2015-11-15#1324477 ? or the fascinating case of mr bharara http://qntra.net/2015/04/judge-preet-bhararas-brinkmanship-endangers-fair-trials/ ? or the betrayer shkreli ? ☝︎
mircea_popescu: and to not forget the various other usg tools with a more remote, disavowed involvement : gavin andresen, emin gun sirer, and a whole list of various derps who unilaterally claim involvement : amir chetrit, anthony di iorio, gavin woon, joseph lubin etc,
asciilifeform: right in the bio?
asciilifeform: 'Stefano Bertolo is a civil servant advising the Foundation in a strictly personal capacity with the formal permission of his employer. ' << holy shit, srs?
mircea_popescu: meanwhile, ethereum itself is brought to you by ming chan, "an mit alumna", vitalik buterin, which you no doubt remember as an obscure bitcoin punk, jeffrey wilcke, bernd lapp ("bern lapp's background and experience in management experience spawns many years"), stefano bertolo, yessin schiegg, willioam mougayar, thomas greco (omise), and vladislav martynov. see https://archive.is/Se89j ☟︎
asciilifeform: strangely enough, afaik the only folks who can afford the Real Deal are - usg. but in this case they skimped ? go figure.
asciilifeform: (if that.)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: typically this 'audit for hire' crapolade is simply meat-powered 'lint'
a111: Logged on 2016-06-28 22:19 mircea_popescu: and to round the lolz farm, " The code was open-sourced on March 3rd, so experts had almost two months to find vulnerabilities before it was deployed. It was also audited (at an alleged cost of $250k) by the same firm that audited geth before the frontier launch." (you remember, by the "dejavu" derps, that proud scion of bitcoin security of bitcoinica days. https://archive.is/yZ0ke )
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-28#1492472 << to truly round up yesterday's derp list, one has to mention the dejavu "security" team (aptly named, seriously, we've seen this nonsense more than enough times before from the sort of posturing idiots without a wot presence) : akshay aggarwal, "a passionate entrepreneur", adam cecchetti, "ceo", michael eddington, "cto", see https://archive.is/JqJos ☝︎
deedbot: [Qntra] Microsoft Withdraws Paid Fitness App, Existing Users To Lose Access - http://qntra.net/2016/06/microsoft-withdraws-paid-fitness-app-existing-users-to-lose-access/
a111: Logged on 2016-06-29 12:09 thestringpuller: https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0075.mediawiki << The first of many AML/KYC improvements proposed by derps to add to bitcoin.
shinohai: https://github.com/ethcore/parity/pull/1483/files The dao is still down -12.19 %. Here's a provisional hard fork to make it all better.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-29 09:20 ben_vulpes: i am torn - on one hand, this is a marvelously spiffy box. on the other - what treasures might lie on those hdds?!
asciilifeform: ;;later tell ben_vulpes http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-29#1492654 >> << http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/cff36f92-0107-4529-95d2-89ba47848a3a/?raw=true ☝︎
thestringpuller: https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0075.mediawiki << The first of many AML/KYC improvements proposed by derps to add to bitcoin. ☟︎
ben_vulpes: i am torn - on one hand, this is a marvelously spiffy box. on the other - what treasures might lie on those hdds?! ☟︎
ben_vulpes: while picking delicately through the trash in the 2br housing lord only knows how many ops monkeys it came up that the machine was in no way deprovisioned.
ben_vulpes went to procure a server today (8 cores! 3.33 ghz! 32 gb of ram! probably the heaviest individual slice of computronium i've ever hefted) to find that it was previously operated by a local company of some amount of repute.
adlai: misplacing a key and misremembering a password are the same class of fuckup
adlai: the truly stupid suddenly remember last week to forget their presale password. true story (not mine)
mircea_popescu: the stupid consist of cents and dimes, sum to a thousand dollars if that. ☟︎
adlai: but i agree with you in the sense of "coin moves from stupid pocket to smart"
adlai: sure. but this "usg" is still a bunch of smart muppets scamming the stupid muppets, money is changing hands
adlai: and ethereum is a billion dollar testnet
adlai: it's what testnet does whenever it gets too fucked
adlai: this is the cheapest fix: reset the chain
mircea_popescu: adlai forced mistakes ; long string thereof.
adlai: honestly, why even bother with a fork at this point. just reset the testnet, call it "The Next Frontier"
mircea_popescu: "One cannot imagine Ethereum community doing nothing in response to an existential hack. Doing nothing would say we lack courage and we let thieves walk away with their loot. HF is a must now. The community is reaching a new consensus."
adlai: exactly this. the neuroleptic goat has its place alongside the tolerance break and other shirts of assorted hairyness
a111: Logged on 2016-06-29 04:47 adlai: it's worth taking antipsychotics for the amazing clarity you get once you stop taking them
a111: Logged on 2015-05-15 04:41 mircea_popescu: there is that rabi and goats story, but no.
mircea_popescu: myeah. it's a thing looking just about ready to deflate worth a trn or two.
trinque: yeah, pivoting towards death, not out of the way of it
a111: Logged on 2016-06-29 04:18 trinque: or does some consumer products company somehow "pivot" to surviving a situation where consumers don't have money
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-29#1492583 << actually that happened in the 90s. all the jam tomorrow "web as a business" "venture capital" bs is exactly that - pivoting to try and survive the situation where consumers don't have money. pretend data is valuable and someone cares, pretend advertising is a business, get people to "invest" in this nonsense, it's a thing. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: well, that's problematic, in no small part because of the traditional villain "ha-ha! it was my plan all along!"
mircea_popescu: and all this happens without any sort of cheating needed or implied.
mircea_popescu: when people get excited the "monetary mass" (which is not directly equivalent to the pedestrian notion of money) expands. when people flee to safety, it contracts.
mircea_popescu: suddenly you can appreciate the macrofinance problems.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile on the right, each coin piece changes hands once a week. for trade! thismeans the circulation is about 5bn pcs/year
mircea_popescu: now, the average coin piece in the left changes hands once a year. for safety. this means the circulation (ie, notional market, in the primitive sense this works then) is ~100mn pcs/year.
mircea_popescu: the half to the left gets attacked by the huns ; the half to the right has some derp discover the indies and goes into trade mode, florence style.
trinque: if I had 40 billion turkey dollars and suddenly had to divest from USD denominated assets and companies that relied on consumer spending, where would I go?
mircea_popescu: this was true even in the old days of gold coins. consider the case of two neighbouring countries, each with the same exact mirror arrangements, same pop count, same 100 tons of gold total, circulating as 100mn 1gram pieces.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-29 04:16 trinque: this is nonsense
trinque: this "EU parliament" room is terrible, looks like a shitty state college lecture hall
adlai: if you're new at this - the whole point is to do the trial and error in your head. if the computer move surprises you, you have to hit reset and stare at the setup for another fifteen seconds
adlai studies https://online-go.com/puzzle/2907 (HTML5 turd containing the first third of Cho Chikun's "Encyclopedia of Life & Death")
adlai: my true worth, unlike my net worth, is denominated in TruCoin (tm) (c,) (r) (coming soon to an altcoin daemon near you!)
trinque: "but my true worth is denominated in the love of god!"
trinque: or do, and explain to asciilifeform what can happen when you over-leverage yourself
trinque: now try not frying yourself with acid or whatever
adlai: it also helps that bitcoin has found the motivation to do the dance again, timed well with my asylum exit
adlai: i'm glad to have stopped! and have found again the motivation to bitcoin
mats: i'm sorry to hear that
adlai: it's worth taking antipsychotics for the amazing clarity you get once you stop taking them ☟︎
trinque: this is the fucking definition of power
trinque: as their ability to wield economic activity in the world declines, they grow smaller and less powerful
asciilifeform: http://crimebaltimore.com << but scam. the 'shootings' in particular -- they have these automated detectors, one cannot infer that ~somebody~ caught the bullet
trinque: or at all, if the ask is a poorly formed question