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mircea_popescu: "nonprofit, nonpartisan" sounds like it's a clinton-for-president thing
asciilifeform: nah that's next year's!111
mircea_popescu: did they decide to make it about being nice to fat women instead ?
asciilifeform: 'This year's challenge (detailed below) is a real-world problem in nuclear verification, sponsored by and designed in partnership with the Nuclear Threat Initiative (http://www.nti.org/), a nonprofit, nonpartisan organization working to reduce the threat of ...'
asciilifeform: in other 'news', this year's underhanded c contest is a lul: http://underhanded-c.org/#summary
mircea_popescu: " not one of the every other countries that likes cocaine too" << "not one of the other countries where they like cocaine too"
mircea_popescu: trinque hey seriously, no way to deed ? since whenever ?
BingoBoingo: Was that still the missing other deedbot- job?
BingoBoingo: how to deed nao?
BingoBoingo: ^ trinque
mircea_popescu: phf imagine if brothels worked like that.
BingoBoingo: * adlai exaggerates slightly, but this doc is not a pill pusher, which is why i sought him out - confirmation bias ftw! << Or he wants a baseline adlai without lsd...
asciilifeform: anyway no riced pipes in this one.
phf: it up - oh and the seat is leather - very classy so i want to pick it up - anyway, maybe you should think about it - nah i want to pick it up - well give it a day or something - ... ok i'll pick it up tomorrow" haven't heard anything from the guy.
phf: my first attempted motorcycle purchase went exactly like this. i show up, and the bike's fucking spiffy, a honda cafe racer conversion. i saw it on craigslist, research all the things, etc. etc. the conversation went something like "check out this thing that i did to this bike – ooh yeah it's cool, so i want to pick it up – yeah i replaced the pipe from this one to this other one - yeah i saw the original this is much better, so i want to pick
asciilifeform: ^ thing is about the size of pc fulltower, but weighs ~40kg, and console - similar
asciilifeform: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=51 << for anyone trying to follow thread
mircea_popescu: if you DID have it, you wouldn't sell the 3620. because great.
mats: work was not fun, i think virtually everyone with 365 was unable to send or receive external mail
asciilifeform: mats: how's that
mats: Microsoft's 'Office 365' choked today
phf: mircea_popescu: that's what i figured
asciilifeform: and an empty tape drive chassis.
asciilifeform: old console, strictly, and 1 triax cable.
adlai will get back on this issue, unless phf's meatwot beats his meatwot to the meatpunch
mircea_popescu: phf yeah, but then he wouldn't have it anymore.
adlai: they don't have to visit your house, but i never said maryland
adlai has relatives close to alf
phf: his objections are bogus, even the time/money thing, and they go through the usual asciilifeform escalations. thing can be taken of his hands within a week, for $5k or so, with no effort on his part, besides "take it to the front porch when a man gets there"
adlai: would you be willing to show a non-technical (but intelligent) visitor that it works?
asciilifeform has a ~very~ acute perception of the value of his time
mircea_popescu: EXACTLY this, illusory or real.
mircea_popescu: phf you laugh at him all you want, but his mental process is sensible, or at least common. if you think about it, why exactly is it that most wives aren't being turned out as we speak ?
asciilifeform: if thing were worth 20k, then perhaps
adlai: specifically, people liking to pay usg taxes
asciilifeform: basically the exercise isn't worth my time for what i am likely to expend in time and what can realistically sell for.
adlai reminds that his plan fell through to to problems on his own end
mircea_popescu: (which is understandable - you need a soul to lisp)
mircea_popescu: and if any redheads show signs of getting pregnant for this purpose, it'll be no gingers.
mircea_popescu: the buyer also has to shave her snatch and milk > 1 cup per teat.
asciilifeform: anyway it can only be sold via wot, because buyer has to take my word that the thing isn't ~currently~ the pile of scrap it will almost certainly turn into when it moves.
phf: adlai: i don't actually need it, i have an xl1201, which i bought after i realized asciilifeform is not going to sell his one. but i know at least 3 people that will pay recent ebay prices for it
adlai: phf outbids me and that's how markets are born
mircea_popescu: nobody's saying to eatr with them, pray with them, etc.
asciilifeform: the box is on track to star in asciilifeform's peine forte et dure.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform trust, what trust. trade with 'em, fuck 'em , and so following.
phf: asciilifeform: last time we talked about i basically got an impression that you don't want to sell it, which has been reconfirmed by this conversation, which is unfortunate since there are people who would actually put it to good use.
mircea_popescu: a republic in every town!
adlai: i don't think you sell a lispm door-to-door
asciilifeform: and aint trusting strangers.
mircea_popescu: and as a general fucking principle : make girlfriends, yo, don't figure out how to all be buttbudies.
mircea_popescu: it'd be better to recruit a local than to make someone leave warm sunny canada!
adlai: last i checked, tmsr has an ex-salesman? or at least a blogger who blogs a lot about how to sell ☟︎
mircea_popescu: adlai apparently they ran out of jews in washington. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: there is such a thing as economic inefficiencies, yeah.
adlai: btw, the way to get something sold is to pay a salesman commission.
asciilifeform: (which month of work to sell a few k$ box, is)
mircea_popescu: yes, but you're mixing things. (the item) is not = (the item) + (transport service for the item). you can't want "the item" to net you top dollars through sometyhing that's not the item.
phf: asciilifeform: if you're serious about selling it, i can make it happen. only reason i've not been pursuing this line, is because you're preemptively sabotaging the whole thing
asciilifeform: my only remaining interest in the thing is to net top dollarz
mircea_popescu: how do you know what things would or wouldn't!
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: that wouldn't net any real money
mircea_popescu: "free on board". come pick it up ; if you don't we throw it in the water.
asciilifeform: it used a custom tube by 'clinton', not replaceable
phf: for example i bought an xl1201, it's been sitting at a friend's place in seattle for 8 months now, because it's waiting for me to go there in person and pick it up myself
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you know there is such a thing in business as "FOB"
phf: asciilifeform: buyer will be very sad, recap it, test it, etc.
mircea_popescu: gotta love these boxes doing 7MB/s tho. for srs. 3gb in 7 minutes ? sign me up
asciilifeform: yeah and they charge 5k
phf: you know that people who do these kind of things understand the issue :)
phf: yeah, nobody will expect you to
asciilifeform: but i ain't stuffing it in a box with the usual moneyback
phf: yeah, you're refusing to sell it, is what it is :>
asciilifeform: picture the cost of moving a cm
phf: fwiw she threw out a rembrandt, since it could be sold for 10-20-30k?
phf: don't tell me things like that
asciilifeform: phf: nope, iirc his wife threw it
asciilifeform: (he never found a lispm to drive it with)
adlai: reading SoTRB, lemme get this straight: it's impossible to download openssl without... openssl?
asciilifeform: to the point that ~0 afaik remain...
asciilifeform: the euro folk were poor, and their lispms yet costlier and fewer in number than in usa
asciilifeform: incidentally, i should like to learn what became of, e.g., racal norsk's lispm. or the french one, whose name escapes me
a111: Logged on 2016-07-01 00:48 asciilifeform: 'linux is free if yer time has 0 value!11' (tm) (r)
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-01#1493962 << while that true, not applicable here. you should see what a standard office drone does with a large csv in his excel. 8 hour work day so as to avoid 20 minutes' worth of awk, and that includes the time reading docs. ☝︎
asciilifeform: about ~= twin engined airplane, or basic ferrari
mircea_popescu: so then they gotta opine on things and matters.
mircea_popescu: the only difference between actual people and the us scumbags is that someone apparently told the latter they have a say.
asciilifeform: my 'искра', 8086 made for tank, ~same
mircea_popescu: salaries at the time 2-4k or so rol/mo ; rol to usd ~100 ; machine cost like 1800 or so if memory serves.
mircea_popescu: but in other lulz, my first computer cost, in ppp, about 200k in today's usd.
asciilifeform: 'linux is free if yer time has 0 value!11' (tm) (r) ☟︎
mircea_popescu: the correct model i think is sex. sex is free, to the asker ; it goes for a song. but it depends which asker and what song.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-01 00:15 trinque: I don't lament that there isn't some opensource naggum editor out there; I lament that I can't spend 20k or w/e and buy an actual computer
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-01#1493863 << the concept of "free" as used here is unsound. there is such a thing as technological cost. linux is free, it can bash, derps whine about "firefox automation tools". hurr. ☝︎
a111: 14 results for "remove trust", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=remove%20trust
trinque: $s remove trust
mircea_popescu: of course, as the legendary fool who's shown the moon and looks at the finger, people will then debate "what did it", in terms of, you know, if only we flavoured communism shit with THIS vanilla bean!
mircea_popescu: the moment the bs with "everyone" and "anyone" and so on starts, the game's lost, all that's to be still established is the exact manner in which the fuck-up will manifest. but the fuck-up is already baked in at that early point.
mircea_popescu: mon man". not one thing.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-01 00:12 trinque: my reaction to GPL earlier has to do with that. we're all lamenting the wreckage, and wasn't it precisely that too many morons got involved in the craft?