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mircea_popescu: no idea how that'd be possibru in computing, but somehow apparently.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-06#1497752 << yeah. you're also infinitely more expensive to support. i'm guessing maybe this is just not for you ? ☝︎
trinque: and hell, you want a proper blog^H^H^H^H command line interface to a bunch of articles gimmeh teh gossipd
trinque: runs afoul of your "no, whole earth must burn" though
asciilifeform: even half a debugger, that meaningfully steps through the process of shitting out the html, would be useful
trinque: sure there's skewer and whatever other *awful* madness I've dipped my dick into now and again
trinque: even if you had your debugger it wouldn't be meaningfully attached to the browser
trinque: written by some guy that needed to make a website one time
trinque: it's an overgrown templating language that came of needing to turn db queries into html and not much else
asciilifeform: how the fuck do folks put up with a thing with no debugger ?
asciilifeform: i will become a php monkey shortly after i learn to run the deep fryers at mickeydee's. ☟︎
asciilifeform: phf apparently knows enough to replicate working setup without the missing pieces and without using the pig-ugly default theme. ☟︎
trinque: there is always "not to be"
asciilifeform: i confess that i have not found this exercise to be either pleasant, or educational, or productive.
asciilifeform: when this thing apparently WORKS in mircea_popescu's unpublished original.
asciilifeform: or why i should be spending time emplacing 1,001 printf debuggeries
trinque: print_r will dump the contents of that var into the template
asciilifeform: trinque: and this will tell me what ?
trinque: asciilifeform: maybe <pre><?php print_r($comment) ?></pre> in that template somewhere
trinque: but the span around it doesn't show up in the source on the next page after POST
trinque: if _e were emitting empty string that'd be one thing
asciilifeform: so i dun see the problem ?
trinque: in teh html sauce
trinque: yeah but the span doesn't appear either
shinohai: php _e <<< that is a wordpress turd that makes it display in multiple languages iirc
asciilifeform: so this isn't it.
asciilifeform: and numerous other strings similarly encrudded in the theme.
asciilifeform: or, e.g., 'Post a Comment' would likewise fail to appear.
mircea_popescu: stick to echo.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yeah. a thing introduced after 2008
asciilifeform: https://codex.wordpress.org/Function_Reference/_e << appears to be a thing..?
asciilifeform: how the hell would i know
asciilifeform: my theme has it !
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform mp tarball does not include a theme.
asciilifeform: is the template.
mircea_popescu: obviously. if the text not there you ain't getting it.
asciilifeform: the only place in mp tarball that has it
mircea_popescu: well possibly because it doesn't support this.
asciilifeform: not in the default theme !
mircea_popescu: grep for the string what you got there ?
mircea_popescu: i thought he was using teh default.
asciilifeform: default theme does no such thing
asciilifeform: but he never published his theme
mircea_popescu: guess what : trilema does this
asciilifeform: most of the themes appear to already have the hook
mircea_popescu: ok, so you want it to do a "your comment is awaiting moderation" thing ?
asciilifeform: it knows that it is in the mod queue
mircea_popescu: damn. how would the machinery know at the time someone hits submit whether you'l lapprove it later or not ?
asciilifeform: and this is not what happens on trilema
asciilifeform: hitting 'submit' to be presented with the original page and blank form and NO indication of what happened, is nonsense
mircea_popescu: "if comment_approved" can't be a flag at post time.
mircea_popescu: lol that's not claled "it dun work" now is it. for instance, if youy;d like your current "Your email is never published nor shared. Required fields are marked *" to read like my "If this is your first comment, it will wait to be approved. This usually takes a few hours. Subsequent comments are not delayed." then grep for the first string replace with 2nd string.
asciilifeform: this is particular to wp-mp
asciilifeform: but for some reason the flag is not present ?
asciilifeform: there is a built-in 'if comment_approved' thing in the themes
mircea_popescu: trilema has a info bit above the comment box instead.
asciilifeform: just pops right back up at the form with empty contents
asciilifeform: but with 0 feedback to commenter
asciilifeform: it goes to mod queue
asciilifeform: other than as logged in user
asciilifeform: hm dun seem to actually work
mircea_popescu: and you've got A LOT of things built in, not just "antispam". you got admin hardening ; gpg comments ; auto-spam tagging, ddos protection, anti-trackback flood and etc. ☟︎
asciilifeform: and yeah it worx, ty
mircea_popescu: either lift it from his patch or else put it in the theme comments under comment_post_ID
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform link me to your instlal again what was it ?
a111: Logged on 2016-07-06 00:28 asciilifeform: unless whole antispam mechanism is commented out, which defeats the whole purpose of using mircea_popescu's item
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-06#1497630 << notrly the whole purpose, but a good chunk sure. ☝︎
asciilifeform: 'Looks like you tried to comment off a stale page. Reload the article, count to three and try again.' << that one.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-06 00:26 trinque: mod6: hey maybe the mircea_popescutronic wordpress is a better way to post TRB tutorials/updates than wiki
mircea_popescu: now then. what coment staleness ?
asciilifeform: trb? trinque made one
Joshua-I: Guess I'll set up that trusted node stuff in a vm
asciilifeform: unless whole antispam mechanism is commented out, which defeats the whole purpose of using mircea_popescu's item ☟︎
asciilifeform: even after adding the necessary hooks to the comments.php from particular theme, and the resulting html follows the pattern seen on mircea_popescu's site, i still get 'stale' error
shinohai: Working on it asciilifeform ... I just haven't had a decent box to run it all on
trinque: I see value in keeping old tutorials available as historical items, for one
asciilifeform: has anyone other than phf gotten it to work 100% ?
trinque: mod6: hey maybe the mircea_popescutronic wordpress is a better way to post TRB tutorials/updates than wiki ☟︎
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu try as i might, i can't get the comment-staleness thing to work
a111: Logged on 2016-07-06 00:14 shinohai: This is limitation of tcp/ip unfortunately.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-06#1497604 << of naked tcp, aha. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-07-05 23:09 shinohai: I simply put "When adding nodes, ask for a signed list of IP addresses from somebody in your WoT. " in the how-to to avoid the "trusted" thing.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-05#1497586 << mno. there is no mitm countermeasure because bitcoin nodes have no identity. ☝︎
asciilifeform: 'http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/the_real_bitcoin to become a citizen.' << this is open invitation to kako to emplace goatse
Joshua-I: Anyway, executive summary is I do web development typically
Joshua-I: Cool! So voicing myself worked. Sorry about leaving abruptly earlier: my free wifi time was up just as I logged in here
shinohai: This is limitation of tcp/ip unfortunately. ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2016-07-05 23:09 shinohai: I simply put "When adding nodes, ask for a signed list of IP addresses from somebody in your WoT. " in the how-to to avoid the "trusted" thing.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-05#1497586 << his problems is that ips aren't that strong an identification. nothing can be done about it for now, so whatevs. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-07-05 22:16 mod6: asciilifeform: can you confirm/deny that this list is up to date: http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/the_real_bitcoin/nodes ?
mircea_popescu: that should hold us for a while then.
mircea_popescu: mod6 oh, nm, it's in http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/the_real_bitcoin ? kay then.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-05 21:21 mod6: As soon as we have a wiki page @ deedbot that doesn't have spaces in the URL, will change them.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-05#1497498 << the problem is that currently foreigners aiming to become citizens have no clear path to follow. this hasta be resolved, there must be a well maintained page somewhere they can find and follow. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: oh, did you submit the thing
shinohai: mircea_popescu: the collectalldrugs "girl" refused my request to come here and show tits.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-05 18:04 shinohai: http://archive.is/Hp5ZQ <<< this subreddit has potential.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-05#1497441 << easy enough to check. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-07-05 17:09 phf: fe[nl]ix: precisely because of perf and profiling tools we're working on saving an SBCL core as ELF .o and create an executable with ld
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-05#1497413 << does this make sense ? ☝︎