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lobbes: to my (admittedly, untrained) eye, it does seem like BingoBoingo is the ideal fit for the role; not only is he literally closest to the venture, but he also has sales experience iirc. Maybe what is needed is just a trusted "assistant manager", i.e. someone to handle the minutiae on a day-to-day basis under the direction of a chief strategist.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: also then signal BingoBoingo to remove the kvm cables, the kvm box is in no real sense secure , having it plugged in for extended time is a small but definite liability
mod6: mircea_popescu, diana_coman : Give me a thumbs up if you believe the box is ready for you to do your testing, and I'll invoice mircea_popescu.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: it really has to be a l1 person, and so far no takers.
diana_coman: mod6, ok, but this doesn't strike me like a position that you can interview for exactly just like that, you print the ad in the newspaper and interview applicants or something
asciilifeform: diana_coman: we have a pretty serious shortage of skilled hands.
mod6: I'd like to remind everyone here that Pizarro still desperately needs a manager, please inquire within if you're interested.
asciilifeform: we had a 1950s 'zil' that still worked in '92 when we left. ☟︎
diana_coman: I suppose my great grandparents' house could work fine as a museum
diana_coman: asciilifeform, HA, a fram exactly like that was actually IN USE at the countryside 10 years ago; for all I know it might even still work if anybody plugs it in
BingoBoingo: They remain a rural crackpot thing in USistan as well along with R-22 to propane conversions
asciilifeform: err, adsorption, not adiabatic ( the latter's a different bag of crackpottery )
BingoBoingo: The isobutane appears to be a vastly superior refrigerant compared to R134a
asciilifeform: how's the butane fridge treating ya, BingoBoingo ? do i need to include a flammable hydrocarbon sensor in next crate ?
asciilifeform: anecdote : some time in 2004 or so, asciilifeform described , to a frustrated-with-lan-warez gurl, how proper p2p net might work, 'picture if each user only connects to folx he knows personally, and queries can hop if there's transitive trust', ~gossipd, etc , reaction : [horrified] 'omfg, like terrorist cells?! how couldyou!'
asciilifeform: there is not a techno-pill against the requirement of wot, just as there is not a system of magnets and pulleys that gets you a working perpetuum mobile.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the 'private tracker' is really a step backwards, to the central-failure uni lan days. they live for a spell, then get killed/coopted/etc
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform this is a good point, huh. eventually "private tracker" w/e was supposed to sorta-bandaid this
BingoBoingo: There was a parallel meat/tech failure Junior year which ended it. Wifi routers were just starting to become a thing and people kept plugging the WAN cable into the wrong ports. This happened repeatedly in casacades of failure because "Internet doesn't work, port must be bad"
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: that ain't a tech failure, that's a meat failure.
BingoBoingo: At uni there was a little java program called "mytunes" which turned iTunes LAN shared music (a feature only used because of the pirate thing's popularity) into a sort of anon ftp
mircea_popescu: just saying, the "p2p protocol" as a broad construct seems pretty well fleshed out.
asciilifeform: at uni we had a p2p lan warez thing, that somebody cobbled together. lulzily , however, ~searching~ relied on a central point of failure, at any given time 1 or 2 particular boxes, and they would live for 2-3 months until some rat ratted'em, then cycle repeated.
asciilifeform: nowadays they've 'progressed', happily pay not merely per minute but monthly ~lease~ on ipnoje, to talk across a street (via packets, via london, etc)
asciilifeform: funnily related story, back when asciilifeform was a uni student, cellpnojeism was beginning to spread among plebelands, and asciilifeform noticed that folx were paying telco fiddycents/minute to talk over 1-2km ! so asciilifeform went, like naive idjit, to engineering profs, with 'p2p telephony' proposal thing, reaction was the exact sort of through-the-teeth laughter of today's bernstein re phuctor . ☟︎
mircea_popescu: it had a long life in romania. still happens today.
asciilifeform: afaik the 'fu, we'll make own internet, with hookers and blackjack, even if we gotta throw cables from window to window' thing had a brief life in usa, in '80s, then silently evaporated
asciilifeform: they put a 4u cisco thing in the basement somewhere and it replaces whole thing
mircea_popescu: soviets had a helluva time tapping them, and all ye olde school "use phone booth" worked wunderbar.
mircea_popescu: im not aware that ever was a think. trunked is trunked.
asciilifeform: bbs -- in so far as it represented 'can talk without necessarily going through nsa backbone in london' -- was a greater loss than email.
asciilifeform: '2g' , notably, is being phased out in usa, in many places ( and on most of the carriers) nao impossible to make a connection at all with these
asciilifeform: ( at one time asciilifeform bought a number of cellmodems, of various makes , bag of 'sims', and did experiment )
mircea_popescu: and in the same way, pretend email is still a thing in 2010, while given up on pretense bbs is still a thing in 1995.
asciilifeform: word 'privacy' in application to email, was always a stretch
mircea_popescu: notwithstanding a) nobody cares about church and b) getting drizzled on while shitting is the #1 distinction between nation of africa and nation of human.
mircea_popescu: they have serious privacy issues, in the specific sense that the hole in the church roof bothers them a heck of a lot more than the hole in their outhouse
mircea_popescu: i find fetlife sluts are about 10kx more interesting than hikikomori bois a la whatever set we've been contemplating, from curtis yarvin to rms.
asciilifeform: the 1 remaining use case is reaching out to heathens who can't be pinged through anything else, but i haven't had any result worth half a shit with that in aeons , so that leaves just about nuffin
mircea_popescu: anyway, tbh i can't find a use for email. if it's not a trilema-article-and-link nor a p.bvulpes-and-link then why isn't it in #trilema.
asciilifeform: i have a classical email box, complete with 'squirrelmail' etc, and pretty much only one i was able to have reliable 2way traffic with, was mircea_popescu -- back when he had a similar box
asciilifeform: gmail was a usg victory aol et al could only dream of, if you're stuck sending email today you're more or less stuck doing it from shitmail, or watch it silently vanish somewhere on the way.
asciilifeform: aa BingoBoingo , i dun expect to see a resurrection of email tho.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: The deal where email was a thing and then google made Gmail and ate it
mircea_popescu: they're involved in about half the efforts to make the net a shittier, slower, stinkier, buggier place.
asciilifeform: ( a surprising % of the moar outrageous prb & quasi-forkolade derps, are stingy, parked on aws )
asciilifeform: ( i vaguely suspect there exists even a 'herd immunity' of sorts, where aggressive trb helps other peers, of whatever config, stay in shape )
asciilifeform: but that was a while ago
mircea_popescu: yeah, should drop a pile of textfiles in /log
asciilifeform: aha. ( imho a Trooly sane log oughta even have separate log, for : block # / time received / time verified & written to db / from where received )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: he actually baked a patch, about same time as my aggression item, http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2017-December/000282.html
a111: Logged on 2018-07-13 16:06 diana_coman: reporting is still a different thing
asciilifeform: shinohai: consider taking a short at porting cuntoo to pogo, oughta be relatively simple
asciilifeform: ( admittedly a stretch )
asciilifeform: ( point being, it may very well be feasible to run a reliable infrastructural trb noad on mech hdd. certainly worth test. )
asciilifeform: actually stike that, there were a few 10-15 min data points
asciilifeform: at any rate, the block processing delay was a kind of red herring, turned out that 'wait for rain to fall' was in fact the culprit in all ( known to asciilifeform ) cases of 'trb node won't stay in sync'
asciilifeform: notably , the patch started life as a general-purpose profiling of a whole buncha things in trb, but i ended up cutting out all but block timing, given as that was where something like 99% of ~active~ (i.e. as opposed to waiting for rain to fall, this was pre- aggression) cycles are spent
diana_coman: reporting is still a different thing ☟︎
asciilifeform: i expect that soon n00b will be able to revv up a trb box simply by making use of trinque's builder and then 'emerge trb' or the like.
diana_coman: asciilifeform, no, but it might even help at a later time; it wouldn't be wasted time at any rate
asciilifeform: aite, this is not a desperately urgent q or anyffing of the kind
diana_coman: asciilifeform, no, I didn't; and yes, it has stayed as far as I can tell (i.e. I check it daily to see if it's in sync and it has been in sync for several months now); if you have somewhere a step-by-step thing with what would be interesting to publish, I can go through it and do it but otherwise tbh I'm so swamped with other stuff that it's waaaay at the bottom of any queue
diana_coman: asciilifeform> shinohai: trying doesn't hurt. and iirc somebody actually got a mechanical-hdd node to stay synced more or less decently with aggression patch -> yes, I did ☟︎
asciilifeform: rk3328-roc-cc + usb3sata snake + 1tb mech hdd -- might potentially make a working ~100bux trb node. worth a shot, shinohai , if you have a free hand.
asciilifeform: shinohai: trying doesn't hurt. and iirc somebody actually got a mechanical-hdd node to stay synced more or less decently with aggression patch
shinohai: oh neat. i already got a 32G sandisk with bsd working, din want to overwrite since i had no spare
shinohai: but still a neat box all in all for things like fw on cheap
asciilifeform: shinohai: iirc it has a very modest max current, you need a small/slow drive, like the vendor's original
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: in abominably rubbishy toolchains, the practice of 'doing the checks the compiler oughta have but author was dropped as a baby and so it doesn't', roughly.
asciilifeform: recall frederick's 'soldier is guilty of merely existing! what he has or hasn't done, is a distant secondary' or how did it go
mircea_popescu: it's not much of a solution, to wit it doesn't even concinve anyone, but at least it doesn't include serfs' faces and boots and mud.
asciilifeform: i dun dispute that they could believe. but the hypothesis dun strike me as a necessary one.
asciilifeform: ( typical specimen on the street , victim of ameri-schooling, naturally does not know what is a serf, word says nothing to him. but if you explain it, he'll nod, 'yes that's me' )
mircea_popescu: this could business... it cuts quite a far swathe. 1518 dairy ~couldn't~ believe she could sit on duchess couch, take duke cock. COULD NOT. doesn't fit in there, like with ducks. in the immortal words of a certain mammie, "it ain't fittin', it just ain't fittin'".
asciilifeform: most of the folx in north a have already mentally relocated to 18th c ru, of sorts. i've not met so many folx dumb enuff to actually believe that they will, e.g., one day own (properly speaking) house, or own carcass for that matter
asciilifeform: i suspect it is, like 1980s su 'communism'(tm)(r), a state religion, ~nobody actually buys in, errybody makes the token genuflections.
mircea_popescu: pro tip : to pubescent eyes, sexual congress readily translates to "daddy beating up mommy", as a factual matter. and to similarily infantile minds, what i do to my slavegirls is you know, "abuse" or however they put it.
mircea_popescu: the fundamental problem, however, is that you absolutely need a structure of authority to "distinguish men from vermin". and the whole http://trilema.com/2015/why-representative-democracy-doesnt-work-and-doesnt-make-sense/ is all about hwo the autistic boys don't understand who daddy is.
asciilifeform: current situation is suboptimal for all sides -- focus on individual debts, rather than the actual and dire problem of distinguishing men from vermin, leads to where some men nailed at ~random, while vermin win reprieve after reprieve (typically by 'demoocracying' as a blok )
mircea_popescu: yes, but... "There isn't, nor is there going to be a way, manner, instrument or device through which to protect the passive from the active. "
mircea_popescu: the notion that you can fleece the sheep according to how much wool you "need" (calculated through a complicated abstraction designed to hide the arbitrarity, of course).
asciilifeform: supposedly, bulk of 'went bankrupt' in usa is simply where d00d spent a day or 3 in hospital.
asciilifeform: there's a ~bottomless pile of these
mircea_popescu: consider the matter properly : so girl has put capers! in pot of coffee. because can't tell the difference between cardamom or capers, or because too tired, or mischevious, or fucked in the head or you call it, whatever. here's now a nice old style pot (anyone besides me sill use these, btw ? the tronconic items ?) with over a liter of capercoffee made out of SEVEN heaped spoonfulls of the world's best coffee, irreproducible
asciilifeform: superficially it seems possible to cut apart 'i'ma build fleet of merchant ships and sail to venice' from konsoomer-credit . but i suspect there's a nonremovable 'exam taking' component.
phf: asciilifeform: i believe it was a reference to earlier mention of three musketeers as a source of useful knowledge, rather than any particular plot element. at least i meant dumas as generally high adventure
phf: asciilifeform: i think the alexander dumas notion of responsible credit is a reasonable thing, i.e. borrow from a handful of reasonably informed wealthy people from your town, deliver return on credit, otherwise "i'm ruined, going to hang myself, daughter to be weed to one of the creditors" etc.
mircea_popescu: well, you'd have to evaluate things. that's the fundamental dispute here. on one hand, the pantsuit, "ourdemocracy", whatever, "progressivists" how oyu'd call them (they'd preferred to be called "modern man", with an implicit hint that the modern part is spurious and they've always been all there ever was etc), which holds a strict "nothing can be meaningful, like, ever" stance.
asciilifeform admits that it remains unclear to him whether a thing 'responsible credit' is even possible. perhaps the mohammedans have the right idea re credit.
mircea_popescu: "progress" renders all evaluation meaningless as a prerequisite.
asciilifeform: iirc there was a mircea_popescu essay re another orcistan, greece, where 'greece : i am a toilet, what did you expect when you put money into a toilet'
mircea_popescu: nah, as late as 1960 it meant "end of life" in that you became a nigger and had to sell ("voluntarily", heh) your suburban home
a111: Logged on 2014-12-08 19:04 asciilifeform: 'companies that go bankrupt are a danger to healthy competition. They are able to make their creditors and shareholders pay for their losses and bad management and then to start anew with assets that they essentially got for free, quite unlike the competition that has not gone bankrupt, who have to pay full price for their assets, but quite similar to how their customers have wanted their products, for too little money.'
mircea_popescu: they get the shareholder's house and "all the money" and move on to a new "cheif executive officer" set.
mircea_popescu: willie dynamite is a great 70s flick btw. 100% of all "romantic comedies" acting and actors packed in one dude there/
mircea_popescu: but obviously, she'll either end it or turn it into a queendom, what the fuck CAN she do.
mircea_popescu: "what the fuck is a queen to do with a kingdom" is not contemplated here.
asciilifeform: the part that remains unclear, is for what exactly does a cow need money.
mircea_popescu: cated floor washer, and some others) says, at the peak ? "i want you to have all the money". what's rose say in http://trilema.com/2015/the-war-of-the-roses/ ? yep, that's right, "you should have all the money". originally started as a blacksploitation item (and here's our tie-in with "ubuntu, the african philosophy") -- what's willie dynamite say (to the fat, middle-aged "social worker", no less) ? "i want you to have all th