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mircea_popescu: <pete_dushenski> he's just playing it up for the crowd. << that, pretty much. like any pundit/hired "tech support", he's got his talking points and he's going to talk the points.
mircea_popescu: shit my client automatically expands wikiwhale to gmaxwell's girlfriend ;/
mircea_popescu: "i'm too lazy to go out and pick something up so i'ma troll livejournal for gmaxwell's girlfriend" ?
mircea_popescu: isn;'t the sloth merely "if i could be bothered to stand up" ?
mircea_popescu: this in stark opposition with thought, where simply spending time doing addition does not automatically qualify one for analysis say
mircea_popescu: except they're not modes of thought, they're modes of feeling.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so in the end, it turns out you did know it, just, didn't realise how stupid the average derp is ?
mircea_popescu: o look, ed went to shit meanwhile. anyway, they had a decent article on this power word : real name thing, a decade ago
mircea_popescu: there you go. saying someone's name is a potentially dangerous, magical activity.
mircea_popescu: and since the result of libertard "education" is an unprecedented headcount of illiterate cattle all over the west...
mircea_popescu: there's this innate "fear", i suppose, among the primitive, illiterate hordes as to the magical power of names.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform how do you 'dox' people unless there's dirt ? << there's a lot you don't know.
mircea_popescu: anyway, thinking about it, i suppose that's the one, true, original classifier. not money nor "knowledge" nor anything else, but simply the contest of what is and what is not obvious.
mircea_popescu: i think if that were a question on a junior college class - in humanities, mind you - you'd be lucky to get a kid in five spot it.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform speaking of unless. on a scale of 1 to 10, just how transparent is the ef-deer = fdr reference ?
mircea_popescu: the dog's memory is good for minutes, and his representative bubble can't exceed that.
mircea_popescu: forget it, it's like asking a dog to relate cause and effect across a week
mircea_popescu: as far as everyone's concerned, google's a bucnh of geniuses. that they managed to fuck their market, well... that's just an accident.
mircea_popescu: because strategists are about five in the whole world all told and the other four are doing military stuff.
mircea_popescu: and obviously, nobody will be there to notice the fucking lesson, or put in plain words google's fundamental strategic failure
mircea_popescu: fail to support an ecosystem, be eaten by your upstream provider.
mircea_popescu: and now it will be taken from them .as it fucking should.
mircea_popescu: THAT is why the telcos want a slice of the pie. because google and co managed to fuck the internet
mircea_popescu: stuff like "net neutrality" aren't occuring in a vacuum. people have in fact managed to narrow it enough that by now managing sites on a per site basis is fewasible, just like channels on cable
mircea_popescu: people who came of age in the 90s imagine this is still that unlimited field of endlessness, and long tails and all that.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform quite. and speaking of which... anyone's given a look at the internet, recently ?
mircea_popescu: and just like that, we can't live in the same world, ever.
mircea_popescu: to them it seems fucking natural they may use the words they're licensed to use
mircea_popescu: kids active today grew up in a world of computer game word filters
mircea_popescu: nubbins` lemme tell you something. i grew up in a world where owning the words was implicit. so i neatly expect any system ever devised to recognise my sovereign right to use any word i fucking choose. period.
mircea_popescu: they'd be selling aluminum siding just as well if they felt like it
mircea_popescu: promotion business is a promoter's business. has jack shit to do with music.
mircea_popescu: thickasthieves that's not the problem. the problem is that you're insistent on discussing the topic on insanely unrelated priors.
mircea_popescu: nubbins` protip << yeah i said it above too, but somehow it dun stick.
mircea_popescu: so what are you proposing, ways for apple to optimize its being apple ?
mircea_popescu: thickasthieves you sounded like you were, at least to me.
mircea_popescu: the "artists" get jack, and the idea that they're selling anything is ludicrous
mircea_popescu: thickasthieves notrly. they only appear to be, to the people captive.
mircea_popescu: it's like imagining the talking heads are the owners of the network. no, they're just hired labour. like the janitors, exactly.
mircea_popescu: these aren't artists and they aren't selling anything.
mircea_popescu: thickasthieves nah listen, these promotion things, are their own promotion thing. take inna, some romanian ex-highschool ho. got promoted for a summer.
mircea_popescu: that's your future. a million people all doing a million weird things like ancient inuit "revivals" and so on.
mircea_popescu: it's a social behaviour, music. technology gets removed out of the equation all the damned time.
mircea_popescu: it'll re-hash starting from its roots as entertainment, you'll go back to the performer, back to the instrument,
mircea_popescu: but it will die at the hands of kids who won't pay for music and the people serving them, who will do essentially stuff like sexy saffron
mircea_popescu: yes, apple will go bankrupt. yes, the music distribution model of dino de laurentiis will die.
mircea_popescu: and the non-apples aren't players now nor will they be players ever, that "market" lived its time and is now in the final phase.