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deadweasel: even a witness that says "I BUILT THIS TWO YEARS BEFORE" doesn't cu tit?
mircea_popescu: otherwise, use a qr gun, or an acoustic modem or anything
deadweasel: fuckin A patents trolls.... how could they?
nubbins`: tx fee = a meal
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: is there a way to airgap a machine, but still communicate with mpex?
BingoBoingo: So... a jury upheld that public key crypto patent http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/11/jury-newegg-infringes-spangenberg-patent-must-pay-2-3-million/
mircea_popescu: it's been a private joke for a while this
asciilifeform: i started a mechanical sha design once.
nubbins`: more realistic is a herbert-style setup where the rich have rooms full of slaves performing calcs
thestringpuller: a mechanical hash miner!
pankkake: no, the thing is, remove computers, you kill a lot of much more important stuff
nubbins`: pankkake, it's but a solar flare away
pankkake: let's say you give him a tx or even a private key to pay the guy
nubbins`: you find a hungry person who can transcribe a 16gb blockchain to paper
mircea_popescu: anyway, if you think about it, bitbet isn't "a betting site". bitbet is bitcoi ncourt, which is to say a quick and flexible system to resolve disputes.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: to the livestock, a court that can't have them shot isn't a 'real court' quite yet.
mircea_popescu: bitbet did the same to a number of different processes, even if teh community has not quite grasped how
asciilifeform: he wrote it off, as a waste of time
asciilifeform: well, being a turkey is nice, except for that one day
mircea_popescu: "A safe and congenial environment for you and your children is obviously very nice, much better than trying to survive among social predators." ummm.... we just went through why it's very very bad. wtf is with this guy.
asciilifeform: there ought to be a way to organize the african child soldiers meeting american children.
mircea_popescu: ps were formed within a peaceful, civilized, law-abiding mode of social behavior. When they are forced to turn to scavenging, outright theft and looting, prostitution, black market dealing and consorting with criminals, they can no longer recognize in each other the people they knew before, and the laboriously synthesized community again dissolves into nuclear families.
jcpham: i'd say i'm mentally prepared from a lifetimeof bullshit
mircea_popescu: i guess once you've decided you shall be the cow it may make sense to try and ensure you're a particularly milky one.
mircea_popescu: then get the people to come up with a new constitution and so forth.
mircea_popescu: survivalism means, keeping a large enough group of determined individuals, who once govt collapses move in to take over
mircea_popescu: in the current us cops are strictly pacified barbarian tribes, "keeping the peace" a la cumans in the old republic.
mircea_popescu: they feel threatened when it's a case of "you fucked up, you're fucked"
mircea_popescu: perhaps the deeply seated, secret reason why bitbet policy struck such a chord with the multitudes.
asciilifeform: the article is more or less a list of 'don't's.
mircea_popescu: belief is entirely a different matter altogether
asciilifeform: "There's a shift in people's thinking as essential items become scarce. They believe that... hoarders created the shortage... if someone can establish such a link between the crisis and you, you have a problem.' ☟︎
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nubbins`: now THAT'S a stockpile
nubbins`: anyway, this isn't the usa where every neighbourhood has a swat team
mircea_popescu: mike_c i see your stockpile and i rase you a titpile. http://www.smeddley.com/crafts/crochet/pile-of-boobs.jpg
nubbins`: suppose the faucet starts spitting brown water. having a big pile of jugged water is a big help
nubbins`: suppose the power goes for the better part of a week in the dead of winter. having a big pile of kerosene is a big help
mircea_popescu: nubbins` i can't remember a time when my largest expense was food.
nubbins`: anyway, it's not a bad idea. suppose you get laid off, having 6 months of food is a big help
asciilifeform: a stockpile of one might suffice.
mircea_popescu: and you'kll somehow keep a horde at bay. through what means.
ThickAsThieves: so now you have a lot of ham and people to eat
mircea_popescu: suppose you were the one guy in leningrad with a basement full of ham.
mike_c: a bitcoin rush!
mircea_popescu: tapering may ignite a gold rush
mircea_popescu: gives the voters the opportunity to learbn slowly, move their diets towards govt cheese over a few years
mircea_popescu: basically the continued qe makes repatriation of all assets from the us a slow process
mike_c: what's the big deal? what's a $4 trillion balance sheet among friends?
mircea_popescu: it's not a question of food shortages being avoidable.
phungus: it's a huge catch-22
thestringpuller: it shouldn't come as a surprise with QE-Infinity
ThickAsThieves: wikipedia wants me to donate with a pop-up, but no bitcoin option
mike_c: i think this means that usd is a scarier bet than the yuan right now.
nubbins`: we made a bunch
nubbins`: floor. vast communities of bulky orderlies. rowhouses of nurses. all rooms are hospitals now. the firmament, a massive inferno of blue-black gods. judges pouring time as the piss of Dionysus. insects dripping honey and pulling wax upon my ears. says, 'All the angels can dance on the tip of a pin. all thoughts can jig upon the point of a pen' ☟︎
nubbins`: actually a good read, but he said he mostly wants to get it out of his head rather than make a fortune off it
nubbins`: we've published a bunch of stuff from this guy who spent a few years in the bughouse
nubbins`: well ya know. a lot of the stuff we publish is more for a release on the part of the author than for anything else
mircea_popescu: 50 copies of a diary ?
nubbins`: the diary is a downer
nubbins`: it's a real fuckin downer
pankkake: "If he had any decency he would offer a buy back at 0.2, save some of his name, show that he has belief in the site... and he would still be 5 millions good."
nubbins`: i received three calls from UPS today, two robots and a person
thestringpuller: wouldn't that be best served by a treasurer?
thestringpuller: reconciling the order from his inbox to the address is still a manual process
mircea_popescu: so once he sees a new payment, he searches his inbox, finds the relvant receiver and goes mail
turbo_ac100_: mircea_popescu, Haha "How to process Bitcoin payments" actually sounds like you were writing for people you don't despise although you suggest they don't know what a salt is.
jcpham: i found a cult of the dead cow sticker in an old book the other day
topace: except i have an office, a phone number, and a whole team (currently 6 in my office)
ThickAsThieves: so i started refreshing a bunch
mircea_popescu: a a yes now i recall not recalling before
ThickAsThieves: <ThickAsThieves> hopefully they can solve that problem <<< twas a joke
kleeck: I don't think Obama wants to add a "War on Journalism" to his repertoire.
kleeck: Working through a third part vendor for one of the companies my company acquired. Asking for the software licensing key and the chick sends me the EULA for the software. /facepalm.
mircea_popescu: Apocalyptic you can't really expect the guy to chase all over obscure forums to correct deliberate misrepresentation by interested parties. he made a statement, it's good enough.
mircea_popescu: that's a great revenue stream, for exchanges.
kakobrekla: A fully live AJAX-driven site
turbo_ac100: hm yeah. Could of course be that he gave advice a couple of times and that was that.
mircea_popescu: more liek, S.MPOE will be listed on ciphertrade. that's a bold bet, i'd bet on it.
ThickAsThieves: make the criteria "mircea popusecu can make an account, but a share, sell it, and get his money out"
mircea_popescu: this is what seems to be lost on all the forum tards : so you made a webpage. well done, you're now 15. so ?
mircea_popescu: and also something that is hard to do. putting a website up thereupon numbers are displayed is no sort of achievement.
mircea_popescu: this is a huge black mark rather than anything else.
dexX7: what criteria do you suggest to get a bet including ciphertrade listed on bb?
ThickAsThieves: i'm not a fan of some of her ways
ThickAsThieves: well she's run her assets for a long time and not disappeared
mircea_popescu: it's a big difference.
ThickAsThieves: well, i know i'm not a random scam
mircea_popescu: see, the idea is for a bet to be about more than just the bet itself
dexX7: aren't those "exchange x announces it's closure within a year" bets similar?
ThickAsThieves: like all bets relating to a ship date or opening date
mircea_popescu: you can't have a bet that goes "The Pope will say if this bet wins or loses"
mircea_popescu: this isn't a bet in any sense.
ThickAsThieves: what if you assigned the bet to Kate instead, like "a crypto-currency based securities exchange will open that Kate-Craig purports to be a partner in ownership"
mircea_popescu: (otherwise the business model becomes, make 50 forum accounts, herp a lot about some new "exchange", make bitbet bet, profit)
mircea_popescu: this sorts of bets aren't accepted so as not to transform bitbet into a revenue source for the forum scammers.
mircea_popescu: turbo_ac100 hard to make. as it stands, your bet would be satisfied by a ciphertrade.tripod.com webpage including a form where you can type text and that then gets published
dexX7: maybe snackman is mp and this is just a marketing stunt
gribble: A market order to buy 1000 bitcoins right now would take 890804.4712 USD and would take the last price up to 897.3000 USD, resulting in an average price of 890.8045 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 31.3673 seconds