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asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i dun see that capitulation as a possibility.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform aha. quite. different path to same problem.
mircea_popescu: anyway - i wonder at what point of turning the vice around its ballsac, usg finally relents, admits that it is way the fuck cheaper and therefore better to be friends with the smart people, throws idiots to the dogs. so we get license to capture humanities majors from horseback on campus, and they get the default immunity they like to pretend they currently have.
asciilifeform: not to mention that 'save you from doom' entails uncertainty and ergo lemon market, whereas 'pay me to kill x' is immediately evaluatable
mircea_popescu: "how much would you pay me for information that prevents destruction of $1mn worth of materiel ?" us army : "3% of total damage as evaluated by us" ru army, in general "150% of maximal damage" and on the day before invasion, up to 1mn% of same.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform his observation is well grounded though. the maximum that can be extracted from victim is necessarily below the total damage the bug inflicts. which is why it's always better to sell to enemy of victim. which is why market is complex.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-15 19:28 trinque: I criticize "USG" as a category; it barely defines anything
a111: Logged on 2016-07-07 18:09 mircea_popescu: here's something for the historian in alf! there's ancient statement of the principle, recorded in 1970 milwaukee journal : "You make yourself ridiculous by thinking you can do anything. The word is divided in two. The Russians and the Americans, no one else. What are we? Americans. Behind me there is the government, behind the government is NATO, behind NATO is the US. You can't fight us, we are Americans."
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-15#1503378 << this is an emerging problem. yet recall http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-07#1498863 ☝︎☝︎
asciilifeform: and on top of this, nobody knows what 'market price' of bug is
asciilifeform: (or,more often, tell you to piss off)
asciilifeform: and if yet not aryan enough, they'll simply swallow the goodz and pay 0
mircea_popescu recalls the defective lock analogy.
mats: its really for folks looking to pad their resume
a111: Logged on 2016-07-15 21:21 pete_dushenski: https://bugcrowd.com/fca << megal0lotron. if anyone thought apocalyptic's work offers were insulting low, they haven't seen fiat chrysler's yet.
mats: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-15#1503530 << paying anything close to a reasonable sum for a bug would be devastatingly uneconomical for most software shops ☝︎
mircea_popescu: it manages instead to be lulzy.
asciilifeform: hey that's what it was built for.
mircea_popescu: i tell you, when i wanted specific effect i wrote it out, works fine to this day.
mircea_popescu: so yes, sits on top of pile ; much like a dog on pile of bricks.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-15 19:09 asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: recall that usg sits on top of egyptian pyramid - sized heap of fpga. why not, then, hijack an old, familiar scrypt-based altcoin, and proclaim 'see, YES WE CAN!111' etc
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-15#1503331 << this is a nice theory, but afaik it was exactly never verified in practice. it's altogether improbable the excel secret agents are actually capable of managing the farm / applying it to any definite purpose. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: it WILL take scheme. stop whining.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-15 19:02 asciilifeform: even 'deluxe paint II' for amiga (!) beats the shit out of gimp.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-15#1503327 << just because you have wild, entirely unsuported in practice expectations of a gui, and just because you don't know how to / want to script it, doesn't mean the tool doesn't work. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: anyway. /me vaguely considers leaving the derp a "stop posturing ; read the required material", but whatevs.
asciilifeform: i suppose old muppet tore, new one is being readied.
asciilifeform: not having a staff of latrine divers, nor esp. inclined myself, i tend to be a little behind on such tidbits
mircea_popescu: anyway. he started exactly like this other schmuck.
asciilifeform: but i'd be the last to know
mircea_popescu: ah, lotta lulz buried in there.
mircea_popescu: back when the circle of derps thought they not only have some power in bitcoin, but outright control it ? 2011ish or so ?
mircea_popescu: bitco.in › ... › Bitcoin Protocol › Bitcoin Unlimited 11 ian. 2016 - BUIP011: Andrew Clifford for President Submitted 12/01/2016 I think that a lot of people will know my posts from bitcointalk, reddit, and now the
mircea_popescu: oh this is hysterical lmao.
shinohai: Obviously he is someone that thinks "open letters" to the "komoooonuity" will work.
asciilifeform: they called up the tardreservez?
mircea_popescu: who the fuck is "andrew clifford" again ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: all i could find is 'sheriff concludes that only bomber died' and 'attempted revenge on boss'
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-15#1503293 << yeah waht was there ? ☝︎
asciilifeform: phf: in the logz already
asciilifeform: clearly tr deeesperately wants into eu!1111
phf: trinque: where's that from?
pete_dushenski: s/isis/buddhist monk worx too
pete_dushenski: https://twitter.com/KentMGlobal/status/753996788638494720 << in other local news, you might not be interested in isis tactics, but isis tactics are interested in you.
pete_dushenski: apparently that little rain storm was worse than i thought... chunks of the city are w/o power... http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/roads-flooding-in-edmonton-after-epic-thunderstorm-1.3681796 << "epic!"
shinohai: Erogdan "I'm still in charge folks, I can tweet!" ☟︎
shinohai: Well army has declared coup, so let's see how well this little drama plays out.
pete_dushenski: (helmuth von moltke 'westernised' the ottoman army in the 1830s)
pete_dushenski: long gone are the days of von moltke and the close ties between prussia and the ottomans eh ☟︎
shinohai: The lolz, "Germany has denied Erdogan permission to land his plane."
pete_dushenski: a whole host of mercs ~are~ made in us of a, however, and yes, are little more than very expensive and equally disposable smartph0nes
pete_dushenski: lol toyota camry is 'made in america' and isn't fit for the poubelle. NICE TRY.
phf: hehe, that teardown is amusing
pete_dushenski: https://bugcrowd.com/fca << megal0lotron. if anyone thought apocalyptic's work offers were insulting low, they haven't seen fiat chrysler's yet. ☟︎
asciilifeform: but no such thing exists or is ever likely to.
asciilifeform: nobody, afaik, has done anything of the kind.
asciilifeform: even as a one-of-a-kind handmade thing
trinque: looks like a neat toy
asciilifeform: trinque: bigger than a palm V !!
trinque: asciilifeform: https://www.adafruit.com/product/1303 << this isn't that big.
asciilifeform: and this is not a problem with qi specifically, but with konsoomer crapolade in general.
asciilifeform: my point was that the thing will fit in no recent portable gadget.
trinque: asciilifeform: I've seen them wired up to controller boards that speak vga/hdmi around the net
asciilifeform: you could try to locate one of the laptops they worked with (qi was sold as an after-market add-on thing) but they weren't much to write home about.
asciilifeform: thing doesn't take anything like a vga or dvi input.
asciilifeform: trinque: even if you could buy the panel (they do appear on, e.g., ebay, regularly) -- where do you intend to put it ?
trinque: that Tripuso bought Pixel Qi's tech
trinque: I just called them actually, asking pricing and so on.
phf: or just crank up the backlight burning through battery until next recharge
pete_dushenski expects pokemon go to revolutionise sun limitations of screens
trinque: I researched those this week; pixel qi sold to an outfit that seems to be sitting on the patents ☟︎
asciilifeform: i guess modern konsooomer is expected to sit in a cave, like a mole, and not try to use machinery in the sun
asciilifeform: a decade or so ago, there was an outfit ('pixel qi') that purported to sell sunlight-viewable displays, they were, iirc, well-received, but also died.
asciilifeform: epaper is a disappointment, imho; there was some promising tech in 'static lcd' (which draws 0 current when holding image) while retaining the speed/crispness; but afaik it died.
phf: yeah, i have a dx too, i also have two or three small keyboard ones, but they break easily (i broke like 4 or 5) with they way i use them anyway, and since the kindle direction is clearly dodgy i just don't feel like doing anything with them
pete_dushenski: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/07/13/one-striking-chart-shows-why-pharma-companies-are-fighting-legal-marijuana/ << in which we see that clitler hates big pharma, wants to bring back us agro via weed. ☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: and a more recent unit, with frontlight, which i gave to pet, i could not abide the lack of mechanical switches
asciilifeform: phf: i still have that one ('dx')
phf: i was really happy with the old keyboard kindle, it had free internet, and was just generally a very promising oldfag device. hardware keyboard, promising screen, ~lighter than any versions since~, had a bunch of linux hacks including a terminal. i ported a zork interpreter to it. and of course amazon doesn't care about oldfag market, so kindles went downhill fast since
asciilifeform: i can even tell you what is in store for epaper aficionados: the thing will be colourized, and the original b&w version will be taken off the market; just as with lcd; the colour version will be blurrier and less suitable for text, but WATCH LOLCATS YOU TERRORIST
asciilifeform: and before anyone asks, yes i have the latest example made.
asciilifeform: it redraws, slowly, visibly to the naked eye
asciilifeform: the other abominable thing about epaper is the refresh rate
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: ya, just saw that 'digital paper' isn't backlit
pete_dushenski: holy cromoly that's some lightning outside. this must be the rainiest summer in memory. every afternoon with the wet stuff!
asciilifeform: (latest 'kindle' has a frontlight, but it is not same thing, but more like what old electronic wristwatches had)
asciilifeform: and has no way to optionally backlight, as it is not transparent
asciilifeform: i ~like~ lcd, and its crisp edges, epaper is fuzzy, like badly tuned old crt
asciilifeform: i've been reading plain text off epaper for years now. but only because it is IMPOSSIBLE to get device with decent b&w reflective lcd.
pete_dushenski: phf: aha! missed the 'ce' bit
asciilifeform: why would i pay 700 for this??
phf: pete_dushenski: we've had this in logs :> it runs some form of windows ce
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: have you tried sony 'digital paper' ?
phf: i use a psion as an organizer, and i still can't get used to the fact that it looks ~good~ in direct sunlight. like it's some amazing novel technology ☟︎
asciilifeform: try and find this today. at ANY price point.
asciilifeform: was good for very little else, but the screen was amazing
asciilifeform: the thing was nearly perfect for reading plain text.
pete_dushenski: it was a bit too geek chic for artsy school but i enjoyed it.
phf: i couldn't afford pro level palm, had to use "visor"
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: i had several, ending with that one.