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mircea_popescu: look here : risk, as a statistical concern, and phenomenology, as a discrete history of the world, are entirely separate domains.
mircea_popescu: moreover, the fact that folk are "stuck" operating on windows/other tiling wm "all the time" is really no excuse to smash your stack, as in
asciilifeform: the problem with the greek pov, as re-told by mircea_popescu, is that folks are still stuck logically operating on own deaths all the time, whether they like to or not.
mircea_popescu: all calls should be as nude as possible. harem-like!
mircea_popescu: your calling induction "demonstration" and you pretending a nude call as to the future counts as either doth not actually change how reason works, you know.
mircea_popescu: the practical difference it makes is that if you stuprum definitions the results are - by definition - undefined. just like when you smash buffers, what you get is a no-longer-working machine. irrespective of what "practical" difference it makes understood as "i still see tiled windows so all is well"
mircea_popescu: exact fucking definition of derealisation, as in the psychosis symptom. "can't distinguish between things present and things in own head."
mircea_popescu: this qualifies as insanity. wtf do you mean the realia-idealia is "distinction without a difference" ?
asciilifeform: as far as i can see, this is a distinction without a difference
mircea_popescu: there is no such thing as "the preferences" of the virgin. virgins have no preferences.
mircea_popescu: kid is a wonder to behold, he effortlessly succeeds at things virtually none of his compatriots ever do, such as killing people (note how many of the "i shot a buncha losers" types are actually first generation or further as opposed to malibu-beachouse-timesharing-lizzardkin) or keeping his nose clean (seriously, find someone in californa born 80s or prior who is not and will not smoke), and then is all bitter and butthurt o
asciilifeform: schmuck in bmw is just a schmuck in bmw, not a picker of chix, just as if asciilifeform were to put on a priceless 16th c. samurai armour, he would not thereby become a samurai.
a111: Logged on 2016-08-27 05:09 BingoBoingo: "Somehow the thought that he could have just taken that [shiny new BMW, by the way] ride of his over to Burbank or something and picked up one (or two, or three) of the black girls that perenially prop the street lights waiting for something [such as private movie theatres in Malibu mansions] to happen never occurs. Hell is other people for some people ; but apparently sometimes hell is just the hole in one's own head." << "And through w
BingoBoingo: "Somehow the thought that he could have just taken that [shiny new BMW, by the way] ride of his over to Burbank or something and picked up one (or two, or three) of the black girls that perenially prop the street lights waiting for something [such as private movie theatres in Malibu mansions] to happen never occurs. Hell is other people for some people ; but apparently sometimes hell is just the hole in one's own head." << "And through w ☟︎
asciilifeform: the jews of old europe understood this, and - best as i know - NEVER invoked the goyish judicial system on whatever pretext, when dispute was wholly internal
asciilifeform: if you run a sufficiently tight imperium in imperio, usg gets to bite its elbows and you can get away with pretty much anything, so long as the wall is tall enough.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if you meritwash the kid and appoint him as director of the usual faux charity/corp/etc. usg gets 0.
asciilifeform: if it is arranged via official channels, and is legally termed 'child support' - as in , was sued for - then it is.
mircea_popescu: but yes, they do try to eat as much as they can of anything.
mircea_popescu: look : the entire profession of estate lawyer is this : "you want to transfer X sugar from A to B ; with ants eating as little as possible on the way. This is how you time-attack the ants :"
mircea_popescu: ie, barbaric, as per roman law.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform technically it's quite sensible as it's deferred inheritance.
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: in the anglo world, it is 'unnecessary' in the same way bleeding-as-medicine is. i.e. unless you are a lizard, judge will piss on your prenup.
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo: that strat works about as well as lonely white kids watching blacked.com in triggering crackers to get more hung.
BingoBoingo: If there were complaints though I'd expect them to actually have increased over the past two weeks as I've taken to walking around with athletic black girl to trigger fat white bitches into hopefully eating less.
asciilifeform: to SOMEONE, this was supposed to read as an appealing! thing.
asciilifeform: 'He said Nextdoor has added “racial profiling” as a category for people who want to flag a conversation as inappropriate and that it has provided additional training on how to recognize toxic conversations about race to the volunteer “neighborhood leads” who are responsible for moderating discussions.'
danielpbarron: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-26#1530024 << maybe. I'm about to start up my seasonal thing, which means I move in at work, leaving empty space where I currently reside. But that's a really big maybe seeing as how it's not my place and it's a very risky thing, letting someone move in. That aside, the timeframe is perfect. I will be away for more than a few months even ☝︎
BingoBoingo: "The court ruled that because the law that defines stealing doesn’t include the value of property stolen as an element of the offense, prosecutors couldn’t charge the woman in the case with felony stealing."
phf: basically it's a choice between beta level code that is likely to do something stupid, but not as likely to completely die and stable code that doesn't know how to reconnect dying on wednesday while i'm away
deedbot: http://thestringpuller.com/2016/07/mass-adoption-as-a-ponzi-scheme/ << Pull Your Own Strings - Mass Adoption as a Ponzi Scheme
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform think of it as sewage filter. dunno if you've seen ossessione, but anyway : the street blows by all sorts, maybe some junk you'd like to hold on for a while.
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: but not so much ho bsns, as slave bsns. motel == office. with unpaid interns. think 1980's startup.
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: as mircea_popescu said...ho bsns.
asciilifeform: trinque: i specifically did not mean 'ansifier', as in your caca, or the infamous 'ascii starwars', but purposeful ansi-drawing.
asciilifeform: s, as can mine, and traffic between them cannot be grouped into 'a conversation between x and y' by third party.
a111: Logged on 2016-08-26 16:06 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-26#1529659 << and timing attacks, of course. of all numerous kinds - suppose as a banal example that what i want to do is discern whether key X is yours or his. well, a simple solution would be to add a third i know is not involved, send the same thing to all three, and see which of the susperct two behaves like the third.
mircea_popescu: not that i'm against it. but it does not get classified as solution
asciilifeform: phf: are you changing the oil in the thing as we speak, or wat
a111: Logged on 2016-08-26 16:06 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-26#1529659 << and timing attacks, of course. of all numerous kinds - suppose as a banal example that what i want to do is discern whether key X is yours or his. well, a simple solution would be to add a third i know is not involved, send the same thing to all three, and see which of the susperct two behaves like the third.
phf: right timing attacks with gpg as backend i get. i assumed that attacker being able to discover topology is a given (with spec as written)
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2016/08/us-navy-project-tor-surrounded-by-drama-as-usg-reasserts-control/ << Qntra - US Navy Project "Tor" Surrounded By Drama As USG Reasserts Control
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-26#1529659 << and timing attacks, of course. of all numerous kinds - suppose as a banal example that what i want to do is discern whether key X is yours or his. well, a simple solution would be to add a third i know is not involved, send the same thing to all three, and see which of the susperct two behaves like the third. ☝︎☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: everyting "can be construed as trust" if one has this scalar notion of trust. "here is what body doing X thing reported its IP to be at the time it was doing the X thing" is a very different statement from "i expect to find my house at the corner of cunt street with shit creek"
a111: Logged on 2016-08-26 12:49 Framedragger: that can be construed as trust, but yeah ok.
mircea_popescu: Their successors include Matt Blaze, a widely known cryptographer and associate professor at the University of Pennsylvania; Cindy Cohn, Ms. Steele’s successor as executive director at the Electronic Frontier Foundation; Bruce Schneier, a security author and expert; Gabriella Coleman, an anthropologist at McGill University who writes about online activism; Linus Nordberg, a longtime internet and privacy activist; and Megan ☟︎
mircea_popescu: for the record, "The departing directors are Meredith Hoban Dunn, Ian Goldberg, Julius Mittenzwei, Rabbi Rob Thomas, Wendy Seltzer and two of Tor’s co-founders, Roger Dingledine and Nick Mathewson. Mr. Dingledine and Mr. Mathewson will remain as leaders of Tor’s technical research and development.
mircea_popescu: ie, you trying to work on it resulted in you being mildly annoyed by what you perceived as out of place comms, which upon actual investigation turned out to be different from what originally seemed to be, and in the process of examining difference important feature of shoreline became illuminated and so on.
mircea_popescu: phf no i know. my whole point was that it works as intended.
mircea_popescu: such as this isn't really ready yet.
mircea_popescu: (ironically, this arrangement has more historical exposure than everything that passes for "modern democracy". it's both how the ottoman empire worked ; as well as how the jews did middle east for five centuries.)
phf: as a gothic stance, "if society rejects me, i will now serve the utmost evil!"
mircea_popescu: the subjective experience of loss and inadequacy is a huge underground ocean comprising most of the human bejaviour known as art.
asciilifeform: and regard anyone who advocates it as a procrustes.
asciilifeform: i am on same side as i've been since '07
asciilifeform: as a teaching tool, hearts and livers are separable.
phf: as a final product -- not, but as a teaching tool?
asciilifeform: as an only sane possible replacement for tcp.
asciilifeform: i do not regard it as minor.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu, as often happens, had correct idea, but was not aware of the sheer rot of the available building blocks.
asciilifeform: current spec is imho only worth something as a starting point.
asciilifeform: and there are no sybils, even as a theoretical item, in a correct gossiptron - every receiver knows exactly who (pubkey-wise) has any business transmitting to it, and rejects packet that is malformed, replayed, or signed with ANY other key, in constant time.
asciilifeform: as happens many times every day on our trb nodes.
asciilifeform: hence the existence of such a thing as a syn flood.
a111: Logged on 2016-08-26 12:50 phf: it can be construed as trust if you don't anything beyond what i said, so i also said that there's no trust. of course that's only my interpretation and asciilifeform can provide his own
Framedragger: ..iirc one of the original ideas was to "pass around ip addresses" as things bound to some nick/identity; there is a trust component here; but i'm sure it's evolved since then, etc etc.
phf: it can be construed as trust if you don't anything beyond what i said, so i also said that there's no trust. of course that's only my interpretation and asciilifeform can provide his own ☟︎
Framedragger: that can be construed as trust, but yeah ok. ☟︎
Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-26#1529496 << just curious - does the gossip spec as it is place any trust in ip addresses? this iirc was one of the points criticized by asciilifeform, i would think it to be a valid one. sorry if this, too, was extensively discussed in the logs. ☝︎
jurov: ;;later tell PeterL run configure as: CFLAGS=-fexceptions CXXFLAGS=-fexceptions ./configure
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> if mircea_popescu had written that rodgier ought to have ~been buggered~, or enslaved by arabs, or similar, i would have no dispute. but it is just as fantastic to posit schmuck going into pederasty willingly, as to picture him growing taller by effort of will << He probably would enthusiastically have embraced getting buggered if he was a level 70 chocolate elfhole while recieving buggery
asciilifeform: as in the 4-legged kind ?
asciilifeform: though it is not as if young boys are apt to take 'apprentices'
phf: asciilifeform: right, but if he recognized them as his betters, he could learn from them is my point, by talking to them, by "serving" them, etc.
asciilifeform: esp. considering that his most grotesque, as far as i can see , defect, was precisely atrophied will.
asciilifeform: if mircea_popescu had written that rodgier ought to have ~been buggered~, or enslaved by arabs, or similar, i would have no dispute. but it is just as fantastic to posit schmuck going into pederasty willingly, as to picture him growing taller by effort of will
asciilifeform: so he could have as 'easily' grown taller as learned to enjoy slaving.
asciilifeform: from rodger pt. 4: 'You would think it strange that he has such intense feelings yet doesn't apply the obvious resolution available for them : go up to these betters, prostrate himself and beg them to accept him as their slave. He'll do anything, just as long as they use him. Why not ? ... what they should have been fucking saying were variations of the theme of, "take off your clothes, crawl to them on hands and knees and lick their
mircea_popescu: motherfucker "corrected himself" in the sense of admitting his original idiocy has no possible subject ; and then gleefully proceeds to act as if he said something.
asciilifeform: adlai: i thought you were referring to my original v as 'reference'
trinque: and in that case they hold only as much credence as your trust of peered nodes
adlai: mod6: reminds me of some article that tl;dred to "i should have procrastinated my phd for as long as possible, finishing it was a mistake"
mircea_popescu: "bitch... i'm not gonna pay more for her as she's older and dumber"
mircea_popescu: it is possible to eat shit, as an individual. it is not possible to enact a shiteating diet.
asciilifeform: (thing spawns gpg as process, neh ?)
phf: https://twitter.com/tonymerevick/status/401494704136937472 "Tony Merevick joined BuzzFeed as a reporter in the fall of 2013 to focus on national LGBT news. He is the co-founder and former editor-in-chief of Chicago Phoenix, an innovative LGBT news startup in the Midwest." about self "Cities News Editor @Thrillist. Formerly @BuzzFeedNews. Coffee, wine, and bourbon, please. Send tips to tony@thrillist.com"
mircea_popescu: trinque petrified as you represent it and as it actually works are pretty disjunct. ask a proper rape victim - she'll recall EVERYTHING in great detail except what she did. because she did nothing. because petrified.
phf: BingoBoingo: i have no idea what their endgame was, i think that they had some old fashioned notion of bad student, that they were committed to living out for as long their livers last. to be fair a "brilliant", but "misunderstood" alcoholic student is a european stereotype (it used to be mocked, but then there's a handful of books, where their genius is recognized type deal). i think u.s. philosophy majors carry alcoholism as a kind of
a111: Logged on 2016-08-25 14:45 mircea_popescu: this is because you also don't grasp the concept of "learning" correctly. there is no required participation of the fucking subject in learning actual matter, such as philosophy. if i were teaching them cooking i'd be interested in their own fucking contribution and whatever. but the point of philosophy is to shut the fuck up and LEARN. what "the text makes you think" and what "you feel about X" is entirely uninteresting, bec
mircea_popescu: the current us fashion of asking kids for "their opinion" is as good a proof as needed that there exist no qualified philosophy teachers in that country, for instance.
mircea_popescu: this is because you also don't grasp the concept of "learning" correctly. there is no required participation of the fucking subject in learning actual matter, such as philosophy. if i were teaching them cooking i'd be interested in their own fucking contribution and whatever. but the point of philosophy is to shut the fuck up and LEARN. what "the text makes you think" and what "you feel about X" is entirely uninteresting, bec ☟︎
diana_coman: oh, I thought they woke up early as in woke up at 6am to read for the class out of fear or something
shinohai wonders when mircea_popescu will offer him full-time staff position as curator of players and tits
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-25#1529080 true; at the same time and funnily enough in this particular case, the parents of this guy actually called the police on him and apparently tried to get him out of the way -within the confines of what was acceptable- but essentially everybody else disagreed with the parents' own view that he wasn't fit to live among others as he was at the time. ☝︎
BingoBoingo: "My parents shocked me with very horrible news. They were planning on sending me to Taft High School. Taft had five times as many students as Crespi, it was a public school, it had girls in it, and it had a bad reputation. I had never been so scared in my entire life. How could they do this to me, after knowing what I went through at Crespi? Taft High School would eat me alive and spit me out. I felt so betrayed by my parents." << AHA, I
mircea_popescu: experience shows it is exceedingly difficult to build 4X games that don't die thus (more recent players will know this as "zerging")
phf: stealth computer games are best suited for ai problems, because the algorithms fall under a very specific category of differential blind search games with mobile hider studied and analyzed since the 60s as part of differential games subfield of game theory (DoD likes to throw money at stuff like that, and the first treatment of subject is by a RAND corporation guy). there's no known optimal strategy for >2 node networks, but there are
mircea_popescu: i'm not even sure the case of breach was yet born when the problem truly was "nobody could have predicted". virtually all go "o hey, if we as much as gave a shit for seven straight seconds..."
mircea_popescu: as evidenced by the fact that once you stop to consider it, a minute's all it takes.
thestringpuller: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-25#1529117 << they don't see through walls in regards to smell. This was more a system designed by Kojima in MGS3 for dogs to follow a path of the player as he would drip "particles" into the ground the dog could track. ☝︎