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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it';s
a recurring problem though, recall the "url length hacks" endemic throughout web age ?
mircea_popescu: i've been thinking
a lot about this since discussions re how mining bot should be configured in eulora.
mircea_popescu: i suspect
a (large) part of the problem is the temptation to stuff ad-hoc scripting langs in the cmd line ;
mircea_popescu: no, i understand that part. what i don't understand is why is it
a problem.
mircea_popescu: for the logs : 1st byte is, byte length of 2nd segment. 2nd segment is, byte length of 3rd segment. 3rd segment is payload. so "hola" is 14hola and 0xFF FF FF encodes for
a 2.00352993e+19728 byte long string.
a111: Logged on 2018-07-18 14:06 phf: i took
a different approach, i wrote _to ada standard_ with the idea that each interface can be substituted with
a custom system specific replacement. for example my character_io is
a new_line aware replacement of the original, that relies on ada.sequential_io. now if i wanted to retarget to small machine, i'd write
a custom sequential_io that uses machine specific calls for byte read/write
a111: Logged on 2018-07-18 13:53 phf: interfaces.c is not
a libc concern, it's an ffi. the situation is that C can't be linked to an Ada, even if the C part has _no libc_ in it
mircea_popescu: well, evidently you won't get
a software disk out of
a diskless system.
a111: Logged on 2018-07-18 13:46 phf: or is tmsr ada whatever ave1 put into his musl build, which is, worse,
a political situation. diana_coman can argue for her ffi stuff to be included, should i be arguing for my get/put stuff to be included?
a111: Logged on 2018-07-18 13:45 phf: as far as ada is concerned, the tmsr ada is
a subset of standard, that only exists in your head, and can be somewhat inferred from ffa. that's no standard
a111: Logged on 2018-07-18 13:41 phf: asciilifeform: oh yeah, i get it, the approach requires
a GOST cpu with
a GOST bus etc. etc. right now the situation is mildly depressing (though perhaps that's not the right word), even Ada standard turned out to be dodgy (very precisely specifies some shitty solutions)
mircea_popescu: sellign real estate, baking home cookies for faire sale, anything that's
a real activity, as opposed to gardening. kids, plants, whatever.
ben_vulpes: she gardens, we're building
a fence and working on the house.
ben_vulpes: childrearing can be
a mindnumbing activity.
a111: Logged on 2018-07-18 12:59 phf: for example in naggum's "history of time" he talks about having
a package tz with symbols for all the timezones, and if you access say tz:est or whatever, the timezone is transparently loaded. can only be done in allegro
Mocky: i have
a nephew who tried to get me to cr last summer and I agreed, but then he backed out. he was raving about the place
mircea_popescu: everyone from texas prefers austin. it's
a wonder to behold.
Mocky: BingoBoingo, yeah I've been thinking. Spent better half of last year travelling southern usa and mostly finding places I would *not* want to live until landing in Austin, which I quite liked. But then later snapped back to east coast. I've developed
a pretty good sense of my (pretty minimal) quality of life needs recently.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: i can see how beatings could kick the brain into
a new regime
ben_vulpes: empirically, there are classes of chemicals that
a) shut down the aforementioned dmn entirely for
a short period and b) for reasons unexplained this dialing-down of the dmn can endure beyond the presence of these chemicals in the system (although perhaps not other chemicals that are produced in response, nobody knows anything beyond this point)
ben_vulpes: there's
a megatonne of dross and snake oil to sift through, but another flake ive found is that the same mechanisms that one uses to process and put behind scary/traumatic/painful events can become the dominant mode of behavior if the individual's subjected to pain/abuse/shit-ass situations for long enough
mircea_popescu: (evolutionarily, if anyone's curious, it's
a key component of how they "fall in love", because there's need for some ample shutdown of higher cognitive function for the animal to permit such gross usage as childbearing entails.)
a111: Logged on 2017-04-07 18:24 mircea_popescu: no, let's also de-equivocate think. there's two kinds of think, one's
a forge/reflow/examination of trees resulting in analytical consumption of inputs with actionable outputs guaranteed ; the other is
a neurotic behaviour perhaps best described as spinning, whereby specific emotional triggers / detriggers are visited in succession. the prussian model was never concerned with the former in any sense, but merely aimed to elimi
hanbot: <mircea_popescu> hanbot don't these sound like some epic hats ? << lol, that they do. the question is, wtf is
a "puttplug"?
mircea_popescu: phf there's
a strong undertone of "these people are trading the grains for the chaffs" throughout.
ben_vulpes: not to derail, but i've learned quite
a bit about what neurofolk call the "default mode network" over the past two weeks
ben_vulpes:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-16#1834927 << i'd not distribute anything but trb patches to allcomers ~already~; if i made
a useful thing i'd trivially share the source for it with l1 and rely on y'alls judgement as to whom to further share it with but i wouldn't concern myself with preventing leaks-to-kloinkers. beyond that, i share certain specific source with
a subset of my own l1 and no further, with
a ☝︎ a111: Logged on 2018-07-18 12:55 phf: well lispworks has capi, that doesn't have an non-proprietary equivalent, so if your work requires any kind of gui, you're stuck with some very dodgy solutions (in the early days i even used emacs/slime as
a gui backed by ccl)
mircea_popescu: phf i was talking about the "collected people who use lisp" as
a roomful there. and i very much doubt you can't reproduce anything you effectually use. of course, couldn't vs wouldn't distinction.
a111: Logged on 2018-07-18 12:55 asciilifeform:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-18#1835819 << not for sw relay. sw antenna ideally is
a 20meter-hypotenuse triangle. in the woods. what in the woods is hot enuff to run
a teg ? ( not considering strontium90 barrels here, but compact and inexpensive items. ) afaik pv panel is the only pill.
a111: Logged on 2018-07-18 16:00 mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-18#1835840 << which would be the necessary end result of inept arrangements,
a roomfull of people who think you're an idiot (or in other words, passively selecting for only those for whom your formula works out to relative epsilon necessarily selects for people to whom you're
a pest and no more).
phf:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-18#1836056 << i also don't have means of reproducing the majority of physical objects i use, including the machine my tools run on. i have to ask is that
a hypothetical roomfull or we're talking #trilema specifically?
☝︎ BingoBoingo: I mean in
a couple months he will have
a majority on the Supreme Court. Through at least January all he has to do is abide, keep baiting, and let the pantsuits keep exhausting themselves with runs into insanity
BingoBoingo: Trump is set to get
a better Senate sworn in after this mid term, it's like fishing. Sometimes you have to keep feeding slack and let the scalebeast wear itself out lest the line break
a111: Logged on 2018-07-18 12:46 phf: are you talking in the context of tmsr, or your commercial work? i had both of them bought at some point, back in my common lisp consulting days it was
a no brainer, the cost was always
a small fraction of the contract, but the technical advantage immense. but then i don't have the source code for many things that i make my food with
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-18#1835840 << which would be the necessary end result of inept arrangements,
a roomfull of people who think you're an idiot (or in other words, passively selecting for only those for whom your formula works out to relative epsilon necessarily selects for people to whom you're
a pest and no more).
☝︎☟︎ mircea_popescu: somehow the fact that they gotta go to
a market exactly like the women, under heavy guard and always letting daddy know where they are doesn't AT ALL percolate through brain.
mircea_popescu: somehow the point where some people are regularly handing them their ass with
a handful of camel shit doesn't at all raise.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform quite something like that. elliot is the hallowed imago for
a reason, after all.
mircea_popescu: anyway. sorta thing used to be
a lot more of
a problem back in ye olde days before democracy (ie, fifty or so years ago). "what do you mean in spite of all this equipment wasted on my stupid ass i still aren't all that cool ?!" used to be the jew boy lament.
mircea_popescu: nah, it's usually "genuine" enough, in the sense soltero dood has
a basement with some stuff in it, some hunks of wood "designed and produced by yours truly" and so on.
mircea_popescu: speaking of which, you'd be surprised what % of (male) ustards belabouring under the delusion they're "doms" served
a tour or more. somehow they fail to see the problem. "but... you're retarded" "so ? smarts are not needed." "umm..."
phf: which is exactly that. the reason why i'm failing to see the point of this line of conversation, is because their latter is universal, that's the pond they were born into and that's how they live. you can pick up literally any aspect of their lives and find
a way in which it's not like "mp and mocky" interaction above
a111: Logged on 2018-07-18 14:23 mircea_popescu: "oh, evidently our model doesn't work, so let's make it % rather than absolute". "yes fuckwit, because these aren't tools, and their use need no justification. they're just toys, for you to play with, oh don't use the scalpel, use the tweezer like thing, looks like this is more of
a pull together than
a cut apart thingee".
a111: Logged on 2018-07-18 14:39 phf: it's highly likely that their model though is fundamentally contrary to what is being considered, because it's also fundamentally contrary to what pretty much every american artisan does: when you find
a rich account, you milk them for all they worth, while giving your work out to poor ones because "building business". in this case franz's failure is systematic, there's nothing else to say. but i believe that given the overall failure they never the le
mircea_popescu: phf it's clearly
a family arrangement. what, they never read saussure ? what happened to the olde "give us
a woman from your house" ?
mircea_popescu: "programming computers" also doesn't work "in
a straightforward way". man with wooden stick gets nowhere.
phf: well, that's where the parallel breaks down, because renting software doesn't work in
a straightforward way. hence all the secrecy with source code and nda's
phf: mircea_popescu: you pay for ships before the ships sail out though, they are artisans, but in
a world where nobody buys ships anymore, instead sail on patched up dinghies. so they loan you
a ship, and you maybe pay it off from your returns
mircea_popescu: and this sort of sheer lunacy of misexpression, coupled with shocking, indefensible idiocies like ~
a magic number~ (really, how the fuck was it obtained, anything OTHER than the usual
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-07#1563435 prolonged into adulthood by that all-powerful pill of neoteny, "hurr durr i am an engineer, aka professional, aka no more pressure to mature" ?) is exactly what composes the metaphorical baseball bat i s
☝︎ lobbesbot: Logged on 2018-07-17 00:02:23: <mircea_popescu> i can't believe income tax for 100k
a year is <20%.
a111: Logged on 2018-07-18 15:04 phf: but for all i know they have
a traditional american sales approach, where you ask them for license, and they size you up as to how much they can get out of you, and there's pure winging it. i'm missing the "baseball in hands" part though, that's an indicator one way or another.
phf: but for all i know they have
a traditional american sales approach, where you ask them for license, and they size you up as to how much they can get out of you, and there's pure winging it. i'm missing the "baseball in hands" part though, that's an indicator one way or another.
☟︎ phf: my understanding of how they work is that they have some kind of financial goal (say $100k per engagement), they know that usually they can't get it upfront, because nobody expects to pay for software, particularly this kind of outlandish numbers. so they have
a sit down with you and figure out how you can pay them $100k by other means. taking royalties is one of the possible solutions. of course you can always just meet their price
mircea_popescu: if she really were trying to do you the service she pretends rather than disservice, she'd be holding
a fucking rag.
mircea_popescu: you wouldn't credit
a maid with
a baseball bat in hand that she's "trying to dust the porcelain" and all the shattered fragments about are "accidents", would you ?
mircea_popescu: phf the principal objection is that team of engineers and designers had no apparent fucking inkling that yes,
a price structure is something to design.
phf: ss attempted to have
a more sensible approach in the right direction
phf: it's highly likely that their model though is fundamentally contrary to what is being considered, because it's also fundamentally contrary to what pretty much every american artisan does: when you find
a rich account, you milk them for all they worth, while giving your work out to poor ones because "building business". in this case franz's failure is systematic, there's nothing else to say. but i believe that given the overall failure they never the le
☟︎ phf: they don't have
a pure royalties approach, it's not "well, you'll be making $1mil so you gotta pay us $100k" or similar
mircea_popescu: or else to chain the retards to
a pole and have them spin it under the whip until they day, to give the one or two kids worth the hassle electricity so they can be online.
mircea_popescu: THEN bingoboingo would have the following dilemma before him : either tax the one or two products in that tree dozen that are actually smarter than him even, so with the proceeds to buy crutches and prosthetics for the half dozen mongoloids necessarily included by mother nature in the discount three dozen, so as to vaguely push them into
a cvasi-semblance of normalcy
mircea_popescu: specifically : if say BingoBoingo decided to buy himself
a farm in that republica oriental ; and if on that farm other than the venezuelana an' the peruana he added
a columbiana and whatever else ; and if those produced him over some years
a good three dozen offspring, good heifers that they were ; and if his sperm was so utterly macho that all the x'n commited suicide on the spurt out of sheer shame leaving nothing but boys
mircea_popescu: "oh, evidently our model doesn't work, so let's make it % rather than absolute". "yes fuckwit, because these aren't tools, and their use need no justification. they're just toys, for you to play with, oh don't use the scalpel, use the tweezer like thing, looks like this is more of
a pull together than
a cut apart thingee".
☟︎ phf: unlike tmsr, adacore people are not attempting to also _build_ on
a spaceprobe ;)
phf: i suspect spaceprobes people don't ever need to start
a fresh program either, in
a conventional sense
ave1: the same with interfaces.c,
a version without secondary stack can be easily made (I have one already, simple method of cutting out functions), but is then not really ada standard anymore.
phf: i took
a different approach, i wrote _to ada standard_ with the idea that each interface can be substituted with
a custom system specific replacement. for example my character_io is
a new_line aware replacement of the original, that relies on ada.sequential_io. now if i wanted to retarget to small machine, i'd write
a custom sequential_io that uses machine specific calls for byte read/write
☟︎ ave1: phf, asciilifeform's ffacalc uses only
a few C functions all for IO / exit and command line arguments. I just have to provide the right functions in the ZFP library for ffacalc (currently first on conveyor but also some real life priorities these weeks)
phf: interfaces.c is not
a libc concern, it's an ffi. the situation is that C can't be linked to an Ada, even if the C part has _no libc_ in it
☟︎ a111: Logged on 2018-07-06 17:09 asciilifeform: 'make emu' builds variant that runs in qemu and (if you have x86-64 qemu) boots it. 'make sage' ditto but boots on
a cold sage ( see
http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1887 & elsewhere ) . 'make sage-warm' boots on
a warm sage.