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mircea_popescu: bradedwards ^
mircea_popescu: ;;google first steps in bitcoin-assets
mircea_popescu: ;;google what the wot is, how it works and how to use it
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> 'you lamer, betcha own x86 boxes and like it, trololol' << pete got a bunch of that on his software doesn't fail recent thing too
mircea_popescu: bradedwards that's nice. now get in the wot ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you got tall legs ?
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla yet./
mircea_popescu: !up bradedwards
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla didn't, no. you're too dry for this language :)
mircea_popescu: never underestimate the importance of crackpot demands.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform cause it's how things run in this life.
mircea_popescu: people need a lot more negativity in their life to be happy and productive and members of society.
mircea_popescu: commenting it to show when it won't work rather than "what you imagine it does" is even more useful.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform commenting the source code is never a bad idea.
mircea_popescu: ha! SCAEM
mircea_popescu: ;;ident kakobrekla
mircea_popescu: so then say this again later we see ? :D
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla bitbet ?
mircea_popescu: depends how long it has in the sun
mircea_popescu: it's another to trust it because asciilifeform commited it, and therefore perhaps read it, and it's open source so therefore "billions of eye pairs"
mircea_popescu: it's one thing to trust this rnd function because asciilifeform and 25 others signed on reading it. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: there's no other way to trust software.
mircea_popescu: we need to create that "have read" accounting scheme i was talking about weeks ago.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> how to do signed commits << the barbarian way. everyone who read a patch file (yes) and is willing to sign under it, signs. this gets posted. whoever wants, can apply the patches to get a merged turdball. << i think this is exactly how it should go. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: punkman ideal.
mircea_popescu: too slow bingo
mircea_popescu: !up Plaxant
mircea_popescu: i have no idea, never looked that closely.
mircea_popescu: certainly.
mircea_popescu: jurov it can just be wrapped in gpg --clearsign you know ?
mircea_popescu: bounce only because people see it in the logs.
mircea_popescu: a contrib that is submitted via ssh WAS, maybe, perhaps, signed at some point.
mircea_popescu: jurov might be a good idea via bots, so people can commit from here directly, but even w/o that : a contrib that is signed is signed permanently.
mircea_popescu: none*
mircea_popescu: nonw of this ssh bs
mircea_popescu: get everyone used to checking sigs.
mircea_popescu: gpg commits!
mircea_popescu: https is about as useful as tits on a boar.
mircea_popescu: can';t hurt.
mircea_popescu: !up FabianB
mircea_popescu: punkman yeah speaking of all this comotion, any chance we get the deedbot up by fri ?
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes prolly.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you mean the source tarballs ?
mircea_popescu: if lenin were alive today lenin would be begging us to let him in this chan.
mircea_popescu: mod6 if it's by friday it's perfect.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i rarely if at all run openbsd tho ?
mircea_popescu: except it should be explicitly exclusive rather than inclusive. "We will NOT work with unqualified third parties, which is to say parties that have not satisfied their log reading and wot presence prequalifications." ☟︎
mircea_popescu: certainly the cl is a good antecessor.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform hopefully that's done by fri.
mircea_popescu: <mod6> <+ben_vulpes> i've never written a charter, are there good examples out there? << me either, but we can work on it. no sweat. << you've read plenty of mpex contracts, good enough. keep it direct, plain and simp,le.
mircea_popescu: jurov b-a is not for everyone.
mircea_popescu: there HAVE been cases where bitcoin used shitty entropy.
mircea_popescu: and since we're doing this : asciilifeform the one thing you'd be most halpful with would be, look into the god damned rand code/crypto uses thereof.
mircea_popescu: true.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes mod6 so draft a charter, then we can bitch at it.
mircea_popescu: which is another very valid 2nd step, audit the motherucker.
mircea_popescu: ^
mircea_popescu: <bounce> the bitcoin source is actually reasonably portable and doesn't depend on "helpful" stuff like cmake << also true.
mircea_popescu: <jurov> you have to feed it a blockchain to avoid endless waiting? << not like we can't keep an official copy for bootstrapping, or else people who have the patience can just make their own
mircea_popescu: <BingoBoingo> qemu is available just about anywhere << this is true.
mircea_popescu: <bounce> oh, and deceptive. recall that shop that relied on its "accounting" features, then found out the hard way they're useless for keeping track of accounts? << yeah and definitely must fix, but that'll be hard to do on the first pass. an excellent thing to do for first revision tho, take out "labels" implement accounts correctly (or merge coin control in, either way)
mircea_popescu: <jurov> and if without gui, then it should work fine on cygwin, no? << probably.
mircea_popescu: The20YearIRCloud o happy bday.
mircea_popescu: all this non-unix bs, "gotta make an application to join curl and awk EACH WAY THEY COULD BE JOINED". for fiddy billion "different" aps.
mircea_popescu: othernubs`> let others extend. i don't want gpg to incorporate curl libs so it can automatically grab otps from gribs << EXACTLY. do one thing, do it well.
mircea_popescu: othernubs`> i don't think gui should be a priority, at all. << prolly not. if they kill the qt branch it would be no loss anyway
mircea_popescu: <othernubs`> can't wait to see the charter << me2
mircea_popescu: or whatevs.
mircea_popescu: jurov can be foundation.bitcoin-assets.com
mircea_popescu: othernubs` "Bitcoin, the definitive edition" ?
mircea_popescu: if they even decide to use github
mircea_popescu: what the fuck does it need a website for even.
mircea_popescu: which is my fucking point. this "name and logo" approach to "ideas" is for the birds.
mircea_popescu: bitcoin.foundation too ?
mircea_popescu: some other scamthing notwithstanding.
mircea_popescu: hardly. it'd be the bitcoin foundation. because it's what it is.
mircea_popescu: ;;ud spkg
mircea_popescu: the us congress calls itself sovereign. anyone can call anything
mircea_popescu: this is bitcoin. that some other derps are calling their derpage bitcoin too... well who cares.
mircea_popescu: othernubs` there's really no cause to fork the name too. let the gavin-mike-dorkteam run into obscurity and that's that.
mircea_popescu: cazalla by the way, intel sez that the reason you've not heard from sgornick nor will you is that the guy meanwhile figured out i'm involved, and doesn't like me either because i said nigger or cunt at some point in the past.
mircea_popescu: especially a shitty one run in circles through featuritis swamp by idiots
mircea_popescu: a there we go. cool!
mircea_popescu: !s sukhoi
mircea_popescu: tis in the logs, i wonder how it's keyed
mircea_popescu: me ?
mircea_popescu: no point in having pre-compiled code in case of exceptions. pre-compiled is for non exceptional stuff.
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller yeah, okay, if anyone gets ass-assinated we'll ad-hoc it k ?
mircea_popescu: ah git. well u dunno man, that's why there's foundation chairs. sort this shit out.
mircea_popescu: who*
mircea_popescu: how, they ?
mircea_popescu: jurov not unfixable, that.
mircea_popescu: well once they actually get the charter signerd i suppose there's going to be a geethoob
mircea_popescu: cool!
mircea_popescu: hire people like eulora hires people, on gpg contract.
mircea_popescu: thickasthieves absolutely.
mircea_popescu: they can hire/work with whoever the fuck they want.
mircea_popescu: i think that'd be the other one.
mircea_popescu: notrly.
mircea_popescu: TheNewDeal i dun thyink so. you see, it's by doing shit.