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mircea_popescu: do something that works.
mircea_popescu: "insurance policy" ? "here's a car that doesn't work, and just to make sure, we welded to it a boat that also doesn't work" ? is this a way to live?
mircea_popescu: dude. srsly ?
mircea_popescu: just sign it from the beginning and be done with it.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes if you're going to do that why bother with m/n
mircea_popescu: NOW YOU BROKE IT
mircea_popescu: i had a nice script to ignore youtube links ;/
mircea_popescu: which movie ?
mircea_popescu: do you suppose her mother coming to your room and saying "neither of you is to leave here until you fuck" help anything ?
mircea_popescu: suppose you're with a girl that doesn't wanna fuck you.
mircea_popescu: let's use sex, people think easier about sex.
mircea_popescu: "the incentives are alligned! they're contrary!"
mircea_popescu: you just said they're at odds.
mircea_popescu: you contradicted yursrlf lol
mircea_popescu: ^
mircea_popescu: but i have nfi.
mircea_popescu: if i knew how to formalize this to be readily understanable for people i'd trilema it
mircea_popescu: well i dunno what's missing ;/
mircea_popescu: nop.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes exactly.
mircea_popescu: myeah.
mircea_popescu: shit. n = 1 is what i mean.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes no, n = 2 if there's no third.
mircea_popescu: kinda why i don't think much of the entire "multisig" bullcrap.
mircea_popescu: then it's not m of n.
mircea_popescu: which is how and why the us political system does not work.
mircea_popescu: basically it has no stable solution.
mircea_popescu: you go to stan : hey listen, he's giving you nothing. take this 5 cents sign over to me.
mircea_popescu: so, me you and stan have to split a buck. i go : fuck stan, give me 50 cents i'll sign with you.
mircea_popescu: o wow.
mircea_popescu: you familiar with the three man committee to split a buck ?
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes seems dubious to me.
mircea_popescu: otherwise it goes on forever, like the us puritan thought pattern.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform can't blame him. only way out of that one.
mircea_popescu: i'm kinda reminded of the jews on toilet joke. "is this work ?"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform did he give you a sex answer ?
mircea_popescu: !up deadalus
mircea_popescu: decimation eeexactly.
mircea_popescu: WHY did it never exist ?
mircea_popescu: mechanized orchestra is a particularly good metaphore. because it never existed.
mircea_popescu: ^
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes cause normally i'm like, oh, logs, fancy that. but past few days it's been... omfg help me.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform nah, im sure that's not the case, i never cut solid copper anythings.
mircea_popescu: the disadvantage of productivity is that it's 5am and the log is closing in on 1k lines. and yest it was nearly 3k. and jesus god it's a lot harder to go through when it's not mostly my own lines! i had no idea!
mircea_popescu: it is yes
mircea_popescu: mpex was almost discussed
mircea_popescu: back when there weren't any enemies listening in on our lists
mircea_popescu: long long ago, in a galaxy far far away
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> connected with serial cable << this from reading up on old mpex material ? ☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: more like utf-8 i thought
mircea_popescu: i dunno what the hatred of ascii is from anyway.
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: ie, people with titles.
mircea_popescu: decimation yes. but actual gentlemen, rather than presumed gentlemen.
mircea_popescu: whenever people's conscience is the only protection, the third reich is about to emerge.
mircea_popescu: conscience is fluid. look at Luke-Jr's conscience : he lied about bfl delivering. look at gavin, etc.
mircea_popescu: and you can't just expect "conscience" to resist indefinitely.
mircea_popescu: which is essential, because our enemies are putting a lot of pressure on them to break it
mircea_popescu: and this puts huge pressure on trusted nodes not to break the fucking trust
mircea_popescu: rather than papering over breakdowns of trust with "foundations" and "chief scientistdom"
mircea_popescu: undata more properly said : every breakdown of trust is a fork
mircea_popescu: no such thing as "official" "because we say so". who;'s we.
mircea_popescu: exactly.
mircea_popescu: so if version x is signed by people i know and version y is signed by people i don't know, x is official and fu.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform nah, "official version" is redefined from * this (static) to whatever one has most wot trust towards.
mircea_popescu: not rly.
mircea_popescu: nah its email
mircea_popescu: then suddenly people discover that... wait... ?!!?!?!
mircea_popescu: until it becames a case of "we will hang whoever made this one byte error in bash"
mircea_popescu: sure.
mircea_popescu: "nobody could be bothered to do that"
mircea_popescu: can you intercept x's email for y, change subtly, release ? sure.
mircea_popescu: fuck, people use email to this day to exchange code.
mircea_popescu: right.
mircea_popescu: undata that's kinda why this is not the same discussion. you're thinking of the scratchpad. they're talking the exhibition.
mircea_popescu: just a collection of shit someone crapped out.
mircea_popescu: without signature, there's no code.
mircea_popescu: wait what ?
mircea_popescu: would you ?
mircea_popescu: similarly, you could sign via a website that has your pubkeys
mircea_popescu: undata you could sign via git hooks
mircea_popescu: well ok, it could also be sung, or whatver. anyway, the central idea here is the signing.
mircea_popescu: i don't think you two are discussing the same discussion.
mircea_popescu: cazalla btw shouldn't http://trilema.com/smg-ipo-succeeded-other-statements be in there ?
mircea_popescu: assbot: Breakout Gaming Fall Short In Attempt To Raise 10,000 BTC | Qntra.net <<< they shouldn'rt feel bad, minigames didn't manage 10k either.
mircea_popescu: oh saffron. kay.
mircea_popescu: what was her name anyway
mircea_popescu: ima put kako in the bash nao
mircea_popescu: or w/e her name was.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla no, just sayin', your guess is as good as sexyginger's
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla now we're discussing psychology.
mircea_popescu: if the right person asks, they answer.
mircea_popescu: nodes can implement their own private ip allows.
mircea_popescu: could be.
mircea_popescu: after a fashion.
mircea_popescu: and because of ddos, plenty of time miner doesn't rely.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: one can fudge the version string in the proggy, yes, but if you're on the network, folks can presumably connect to your node and test behaviours <<< miner doesn't have to rely
mircea_popescu: about how8