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mircea_popescu: there's absolutely nothing breakable here, not even in principle.
mircea_popescu: i suppose he could root the box, but could have done that way the fuck easier than all this complex dance.
mircea_popescu: ow ? mocky gets credit for one more user, and evilmocky gets ???
mircea_popescu: i mean... so mocky makes a client, i see his client works, i allocate his binaries signatures, and now evilmocky does what ? doesn't follow server comms spec ? can't connect. is smart enough to follow them, and puts the work in ? can connect, server will report expected hashes. does he distribute this thing, so user can see the hash of his program and the hash the program tells the server don't match ? suppose he does. what n
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-17#1835563 << i can't imagine how this could ~even in principle~ be broken. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: right, because why am i paying the same % whether i wrote a hello world on top of their allegro or an ai.
mircea_popescu: if you buy a gift certificate from walmart or w/e, it's for ~total cost~ not for ~item count~.
mircea_popescu: so then what the fuck meaning could the pricing possibly fucking have.
mircea_popescu: "well it's a different price if you intend to give her half your assets towards the end of your productive life or if you intend to make her salami"
mircea_popescu: yes.
mircea_popescu: otherwise, go ahead and make me a price on your daughter. "what do you plan on doing with her ?" "none of your damn business".
mircea_popescu: yes, but the ~product~ is not specified. if you go to supermarket and buy something, you buy ~the specified something~. it's not an issue of whether "property is specified" in the general sense.
mircea_popescu: not about you, mod6 dun sweat it.
mircea_popescu: all modern evil in the field flows from this original sin of the idiots involved, and no it shan't be passed in silence. had they done this right and equally flunked all other parts as they did flunk them, we'd still be mostly-right rather than thoroughly-broken today.
mircea_popescu: the ~fucking reason~ "anonimity" as understood by the "cipherpunk" bla bla idiots (ie, http://trilema.com/2012/anonimity-or-the-urban-versus-rural-dispute/ item) even fucking exists is because of the whole "no identity needed to software".
mircea_popescu: so no, in treating all comers equally they PRODUCED the problem. because if father is incapable of rejecting you there's exactly 0 incentive to anything but gabriel_laddelize/adlai/kanzure/etc all fucking day long. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: it is NOT FUCKING PERMISSIBLE to "love all your sons equally". fuck you, there is no such thing, that's for their dumbass mother, because she's too stupid to distinguish cocks (and btw, if your "monogamous" "wife" "loves all her children equally", time to start looking carefully at the milkmen, they contributed to that brood as a foregone conclusion.)
mircea_popescu: what sunk djb in my eyes : http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-29#1634136 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-17#1835554 >> no, here we disagree. both rms AND ers lines of socialism (called "free" and "open" source in-universe) are attempting to bake in the conclusion of socialism ("everything that ever crawled out of a cunt is sacred") while allowing you to dispute the conclusions. i am not interested in their idiotic "disputations". the issue, with BOTH approaches, quite indistinguishably, is exactly ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-17#1835536 << such a fucking injun. how, just HOW does one get so fucking stupid. "jwz" amirite, "he only wanted to". this existence is too burdensome for the likes of special cunthead. ☝︎☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-17#1835532 << yup, a very elegant item indeed. what the empire calls "embargo", essentially. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: ie, it worked because a) settlers were idiots (which they weren) and b) government was spurious (which it was).
mircea_popescu: the only known usage that's defensible is eg usg selling indian's land to white settlers ; and the reason it's defensible has nothing to do with anything here considered, and everything to do with the banal observation that some men are sexually stimulated by a simulacrum of resistence put up by woman.
mircea_popescu: standing of what anything even is, money, prices, price formation, control, you name it.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-17#1835530 << i think it's a very stupid idea, and i don't mean this mildly, but stupid in a superlative way, because what is contemplated is a ~fixed price~ for an ~unspecified product~. this is EXACTLY like sootheby's selling "auction win tickets" whereby you get to win "any one auction". it;s like trying to implement lemon markets where they don't naturally exist, and it screams deep misunder ☝︎☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-17#1835525 << man alone ; just because they fail at anything they try doesn't mean much. of course they do, that's precisely how we ended up with the turdsoup. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: !!rate ave1 3 his lordship the lord logiciel
mircea_popescu: !!rated ave1
mircea_popescu: because this is what subhumanity is all about : "anonimity", right, the incapacity to mean anything to anyone.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-17#1835516 << you don't take my meaning. the machine doesn't care about your political corectness. it only sees those people involved that are actually people. if your dog shits in my lawn im not gonna complain to dog ; and if idiot miscompiles code into a pile of shit, the machine's mute sadness will not be directed at idiot. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: after all, what the fuck are we even doing here ? not like it has ~yet~ happened someone with head screwed on straight got turned away.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-17#1835511 << it's really not at all the intention to prevent smart people from improving on the client. if anyone looks even vaguely like he could reverse engineer his pocket flashlight or anything, i'm quite sure he'd find self in some sort of productive arrangement in short order. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-17#1835506 << indeed, and it is quite a wonder i'm still about, right, seeing how slave mutiny could result in my being strangled overnight and therefore it already has. this is mp coming to you loud and clear from the afterlyf ? ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: ave1 i dunno if you've seen the republican license btw ? not like we give out ~anything~ that's "legally" usable by the pantsuit tards.
mircea_popescu: !!rate spyked 3 his lordship the lord crypto-alchemist
mircea_popescu: !!rated spyked
mircea_popescu: !!rate lobbes 3 his lordship the lord of the auction house
mircea_popescu: !!rated lobbes
mircea_popescu waves
mircea_popescu: no i didn't mean right now
mircea_popescu: and i tend to play games from 20 years ago today still. which...
mircea_popescu: me too.
mircea_popescu: and are already lining up for the 9th version of vin diesel being retarded from profile.
mircea_popescu: or i dunno, maybe you're the one guy who thinks need for speed only finally nailed the plot on installment 8.
mircea_popescu: ok, but rarely improved upon past 2-3.
mircea_popescu: nothing else does.
mircea_popescu: anyway, it's altogether doubtful that this naive model of imperial "progress" ever applied to software. i don't expect lcients to become ever better over time.
mircea_popescu: otherwise, biologically, "never meet again" is the winning strategy.
mircea_popescu: which is why monogamy was even invented.
mircea_popescu: people fuck more girls they find in their bed spread eagled than girls they have to say hello to.
mircea_popescu: Mocky well in thsi case, because the barrier to entry is a major destroyer of interest. maybe if he can read at cost 0 he reads and if he can read at cost epsilon, he doesn't.
mircea_popescu: yeah but i mean... i dunno, sometimes i feel like i'm the only one who was ever 12. so you're at camp, and someone spread toothpaste on the teacher's moustache while he slept. so ?
mircea_popescu: if your lunch were gone from your brown paper bag you wouldn't suspect me, you'd suspect someone who worked there. and ?
mircea_popescu: mod6 why would they have to ask anyone anything ? Mocky so you'd suspect. and ?
mircea_popescu: by whom ?
mircea_popescu: i would expect it is actually a ~gain~ if one discovers he's leaking secrets unwillingly.
mircea_popescu: i suppose. though honestly, what is it, don't decrypt the deed, it'll sit there.
mircea_popescu: Mocky this even make snese to you btw ?
mircea_popescu: well, there's obviously a published server protocol, as well as the old client... these don't constitute ?
mircea_popescu: except, life not being endless...
mircea_popescu: lobbes consider the obvious example -- people will pay (but ~a few ecu~ sorta thing) to merely ~use~ an auction bot. they could just do that by fucking hand, what's to keep them.
mircea_popescu: but at a buck a shot. not at 20 bux a shitty "album" cd.
mircea_popescu: notice that ~even today~ there's solid market in "music cds". if you want i can photograph the people outside trying to sell their shiny "extrenos"
mircea_popescu: it is however not the customer's problem that the fair price point for borland whatever is 0.0006 except borland can';t chage that because must be 9.95 or else visa monopoly throws a fit. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: people will gladly pay reasonable sums for anything whatsoever.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform this is deeply not so. attempts to make people pay insane amounts always failed, and this has no relation to software whatsoever.
mircea_popescu: lobbes things will change though.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform note i'm not forbidding anyone from ~publishing~ their client.
mircea_popescu: no argument there.
mircea_popescu: they're all playing obamalora as it is anyway.
mircea_popescu: well ok, so then what pgp signatures.
mircea_popescu: however, at the most basic level, literature must remain enjoyable for the barely literate.
mircea_popescu: that's the whole fucking point. not just of writing games, but of storytelling altogether, as a whole discipline reaching all the way to the core of substance. people's enjoyment of reading say http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-16#1835256 might be ~enhanced~ by a secure mastery of the writer's craft ☝︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform not at all. people should be able to play a fucking game without necessarily understanding how the actual code works.
mircea_popescu: redemption is not here contemplated.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ok, but you recall ye olde discussions re governance etc ?
mircea_popescu: because they're fucked in the head, and literally can not distinguish anything from anythning else.
mircea_popescu: and think in terms of confusable ~by whom~. as far as 50% or so of fetlife female moron population is concerned, they have "a master" or whatever in that vein.
mircea_popescu: yes, well, ideally this should be kept at a minimum. both the kloinking and the sharding.
mircea_popescu: what do you mean other than.
mircea_popescu: wait for someone to sink in the (not insiginificant) cost of fixing the code, "fork" it, market it, and essentially cash in on the op's work.
mircea_popescu: fg is not ak. fg is more like, sights, or something.
mircea_popescu: seems human civilisation managed to mostly keep rifles out of the hands of children, potash out of the mouths of babes and so on.
mircea_popescu: i'm thinking more in the veins of, "really, you gave monkey ak ?"
mircea_popescu: im not sure that's a good controlling example.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yeh.
mircea_popescu: and so on.
mircea_popescu: and opera 2013 to 12.x
mircea_popescu: for the same reason the lusers preferred gcc 5 to gcc 4.
mircea_popescu: current client is pretty shitty.
mircea_popescu: so ?
mircea_popescu: all that code SHOULD NOT have been shared. not with fucking red hat, not with fucking koch, not with fucking drepper and so on.
mircea_popescu: drepperization, is a thing.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yes. one guy puts in all the work to make the damned thing, and then some moron "forks" it.
mircea_popescu: i dunno, i wouldn't use any online banking thing that didnt'; checksum
mircea_popescu: considering there's literal billions involved...
mircea_popescu: not really. there's a mechanism to permit the user to check his client against what it tells the server
mircea_popescu: not ~stop~ per se.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform well, it'll require complacent users.
mircea_popescu: this isn't some sort of banana republic, where it's either go president or get shot.