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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform let's go through this. mtgox wallet is emptied to address A.
asciilifeform: man with at least the brain of a slug would attempt to clean the booty somehow
mircea_popescu: so what if google search turns up whatever ? i can make google show up a shaved baboon when you google for nubbins
mircea_popescu: run me through a scenario where you actually identify such a "direct trade"
asciilifeform: this concern is more in line with 'spend enough time in a smoky enough room, and you'll choke'
mircea_popescu: if you spend time in a smoky room "you might have problems one day"
decimation: if it's discovered that your wallet directly traded with a known thief's wallet - you might have problems one day
asciilifeform: but btc, unlike atoms of Au, has a public history, a fact that users ignore at their peril
asciilifeform: i always thought it was a practical measure, to let people skimp on assaying
nubbins`: the bars i frequent are not the sort of places where one would bring a suitcase full of benjamins
mircea_popescu: "It sounds like you need a few slaps in the face to get in touch with society."
decimation: is there a pool that publishes its accounting?
Duffer1: wtf is a clockcoin?
asciilifeform: does anyone give a damn about coin history in those famous bars where people trade suitcases of benjamins for btc?
BingoBoingo: nubbins`: What you do is start a pool and pay out better than the other pools
asciilifeform: a penny to the dollar is still better than the gasenwagen.
asciilifeform: miner shits out the cleanest possible coin, so in principle if one's coin is 'dirty' enough, a miner might seem like a good investment.
jborkl: I blew a 1 and a 0 as I enteredbit
nubbins`: it protested some, but it's a man's world
mircea_popescu: meanwhile, "Hi I am a 25 years old Italian boy. I entered the bitcoin about one year ago, so I am not so noob even if not expert."
BingoBoingo: nubbins`: Well, they still implement the list by making it a user account and it can be given negative feeback just like any other.
nubbins`: i.e. their feedback appears in the "trusted feedback" section of a user's trust page
nubbins`: nah, default trust is a list of people that, by default, all new users "trust"
BingoBoingo: Dunno what people are up in arms about. Default Trust is just a user account on the forums that can be given negative trust
decimation: but you might convince a greater fool to buy your silver and make a profit
decimation: as long as you can find a greater fool
decimation: a long bet
decimation: it's really a bet that the difficulty won't go up as much as everyone hopes/fears in the future
nubbins`: technically purchasing a miner with btc is a bitcoin divestment
decimation: If you can purchase a miner in bitcoin though, that counts as a bitcoin investment
nubbins`: having a brutal time installing ubuntu on this netbook
Namworld: I shall be away for a while
Apocalyptic: i recreated a game
Apocalyptic: since it's not a live one
truffles: im in a bad position already with namworld!
Apocalyptic: see for yourself, but it's a typical tactic called pin
Apocalyptic: it was a bait truffles
Apocalyptic: anyway since I took the knight i just had to trade to ensure a clear win
decimation: Buffet is a famous dividend hater. Partially because of dividend tax treatment in the US, and partially because he believes in reinvesting in the company or buying back shares.
Apocalyptic: who's got a chess.com account ?
nubbins`: makes it a lot less confusing
nubbins`: the ruling is that you guys roll back a few moves and get your shit together
Namworld: Yeh moved your bishop, Bb5. Do you even have a board in front of you?
BingoBoingo: truff, yeah anything but a pawn needs further specification
truffles: this pace is a bit..
nubbins`: so close, just a word short
nubbins`: thanks, feels good. first one i've sold in a few months
nubbins`: so i sold a 0.5btc casascius coin for 6btc earlier today
gribble: Error: "flip" is not a valid command.
Namworld: gribble can toss a coin
mircea_popescu: Namworld well now i don't know, i read the stuff in a paper book a while ago. lettuce see
Namworld: Well there's a tournament
mircea_popescu: somehow "distribute it" never comes to mind. a problem fiat shares, for that matter. (buffett has some great comments on the topic)
mircea_popescu: it has a better risk profile for the bitcoin investor than the alternative (if you review the early history of btc scams, 2011s, you'll see most corps turned scams once the "ceo" confronted the problem of "we have cashflow. what to do with that cash ?". ☟︎
mircea_popescu: Apocalyptic the "zero asset" thing is a term of art. a company that retains none of its income but distributes it all as dividends.
mircea_popescu: diametric it's a convenient conviction.
Apocalyptic: "Usually a holding company is an asset-less company" what, I thought a holding company holds share of other companies, which are classified as assets
diametric: people are really convinced mircea_popescu is a scam artist
Apocalyptic: according to http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20071005223326AAxjjiN it's related to a holding company, weird
Apocalyptic: <pankkake> well then is there such a thing as a zero asset company? // how would you define it ?
mike_c: i better term might be "zero tangible assets company", but that is a mouthful.
mike_c: i possibly made up that term as a differentiator from mp's "nonzero asset corporation"
pankkake: well then is there such a thing as a zero asset company?
pankkake: well, that json feeds would be nice. write a spec and patch software!
benkay: i'd hazard that the bitcoin alpha biz req's are a little different from my deploy
mike_c: hehe. nah. django is a great accelerator. lot of out-of-the-box stuff that works well. like that rss-generator.
mike_c: omg. what a pain.
KRS1: Maybe wear a cape in the winter.
KRS1: It would be cool to be a Count though.
Apocalyptic: I met Duke jurov a week ago
Apocalyptic: <KRS1> I don't have a title like Duke or anything. // a shame really
mircea_popescu: what's with this "we're organising a conference next week" thing
KRS1: I don't have a title like Duke or anything.
TomServo: he's such a bitch
mike_c: tournament director can give you a time penalty, making you sit out for awhile and get blinded off.
ozbot: Phil Hellmuth outburst vs a Romanian at WSOP 2008 - YouTube
mike_c: yeah, his nickname is the poker brat for a reason.
mircea_popescu: hellmuth folded a walking back to huston arrangement and then got all pissy
mircea_popescu: anyway, the hellmuth guy, i recall this horrible loss to a romanian player, who had called a re-raise with a low pair or something
mike_c: he was youngest main event winner for a long time
mike_c: although that is probably pigeon-holing it a bit.
Apocalyptic: mircea, wait, you're saying risk pricing isn't a subdomain of finance ?
mike_c: i have a serious interest in gambling. I include finance under that category.
kakobrekla: just dont start a butthurt fb page after you fuck up!
Apocalyptic: I saw a discussion about it yeah, he wanted to go for a code afaik
mircea_popescu: pizzaman1337 didn't you have a blog btw ?
mircea_popescu: yes but see, a large part of late action is rebalancing of odds either according to new developments or others positioning.
mike_c: i also ran the numbers bucketing by weight instead of by time, but it gets weird because bets can close early when there is still a high weight.
pizzaman1337: imo that curve is a result of the "new bets" and "closing soon" sections on the left hand side. More visibility, more bets.
kakobrekla: how about adding a weight adjusted line to that chart, plain linear?
mircea_popescu: that really the lukewarm derpage people waste their time with is a sore waste.
mike_c: blog is just a piece, if you use mpex hopefully the tools are useful.
Vexual: u wanna be a pimp, monetise usenet
Vexual: if i put a picture on there ill have my shirt open
kakobrekla: a your stuff.
mike_c: blog is a piece of it, yeah. inaugural post is up.
mircea_popescu: i'm unemployed, mods please clean up my mess. i'm a quick study, believe me when i say so, pay no mind to the fact i can't be fucking bothered to figure out where my post goes
mike_c: not as much javascript, a blog post:
mike_c: for those not afraid of a little javascript, a mpex option P/L tool:
Vexual: hes a karate expert with a soe back, doesnt compute