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trinque: gabriel_laddel: y'know I used to do this "fuck everything but work" thing, trying to get somewhere.
a111: Logged on 2016-08-12 15:52 asciilifeform: other folks - welcome to grep own l0gz.
danielpbarron: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-12#1519312 << I found one in this channel, here is the logged line preceeding it: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-16#1453037 ☝︎☝︎
mircea_popescu: PeterL not a terrible plan.
gabriel_laddel: I had a girlfriend. was staying at her place when parents were out of town etc
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: as per the 'shit hanging off the side' thread.
mircea_popescu: "they sure wouldn't have built this very versatile car, which they talk about a lot more than where they have used it and for what" << now this is fo sho valid criticism of the whole demographic.
gabriel_laddel: (among other things in my life that are totally fucked)
mircea_popescu: well then that kinda work should eat through your 300 overdraft in a short time.
gabriel_laddel: were I fundraising for clim, yes, it would not be via 'crowdfunding' and yes, the numbers would be in the 10ks
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: also, I'm not taking thousands in donations. jackdaniel is being paid several k to work on CLIM ☟︎
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: that's going to have to wait 1-5 months then, depending on my fiscal situation
asciilifeform: but plox find yer key gabriel_laddel , esp. if you want the old lenovo thing, i'ma only ship to signed post addr.
mircea_popescu: a right, that works.
asciilifeform: so there's that.
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: neither mine, nor - it would appear - anyone else's log - has record of this
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: I authed many times in 2015
gabriel_laddel: costs me about 300 usd to go get it, so am waiting
mircea_popescu: what the fuck is this "redefine OPEN" bs then!
asciilifeform: an immutable record of past imperfections is not same as immutable pineapple to eternally sit on.
mircea_popescu: you want to change the world, build on top of immutable primitives, like in v. don't go around pretending "light" now means something else than yesterday.
mircea_popescu: and that thing is unmitigatedly evil ; not to mentionm the fundamental source and ther self-replicating living body, of our present predicaments.
mircea_popescu: that is the policy. any opposition to this, such as "we're now calling niggers afroamerican" or such as "naggum redefined OPEN() to work on his system" is EXACTLY the same thing,
mircea_popescu: generally speaking, i specifically do not wish for anyone to be able to redefine anything ever.
mircea_popescu: but this for static processes
asciilifeform: at any rate it is quite possible to semantically isolate processes inside, yes, one crate.
mircea_popescu: there's no "toilet bacteria" ; there is genetic variation, but by geography not by function.
mircea_popescu: go do this experiment for curiosity. plumbing grows ~the same stuff everywhere.
mircea_popescu: that's what makes them themselves.
asciilifeform: 'learn how the world works!' mno.
mircea_popescu: there is no "bacterium that only" except in the masturbatory alt-reality, necessarily inexistent, secreted by overexcited virgins who lived in a basement.
asciilifeform: betcha i could find bacterium that only grows in yer shitter, in your kitchen sink.
mircea_popescu: it's not that i chose not to redefine sink as toilet. is that my sink CAN NOT BE so redefined.
asciilifeform: is the wall a 'lie' ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu's toilet is in his kitchen ? or not ?
mircea_popescu: in that you're crudely approximating something that's fundamentally impossible - and tell yourselfd this is proof the impossible may be possible! magic! socialism!
asciilifeform: where is the lie ?
mircea_popescu: unlike you, mircea_popescu doesn't lie to himself about what's going on.
mircea_popescu: you can run a buggy approximation thereof.
asciilifeform: note, i can do it using two or moar x86 boxes.
mircea_popescu: if THIS is you reason to dislike the x86, YOU go in the skip.
asciilifeform: which is why x86 goes to the skip.
mircea_popescu: you've just said "i build escherian trestlework around it"
mircea_popescu: which is what, to read it and re-redefine everything in it ?
mircea_popescu: you're eschewing the question. "operator=me" has two options : a) not run the code ; b) run the code, giving whoever wrote it operator status.
mircea_popescu: what is so hard about this concept is that it is not a concept of wisdom but a concept of idiocy. which is to say, it does not belong in reality, but in the masturbatory alt-reality, necessarily inexistent, secreted by overexcited virgins who lived in a basement.
asciilifeform: and no, it doesn't get to 'redefine open' for any other process.
asciilifeform: operator == the fella who can put the key in the keyhole.
asciilifeform: omfg what is so hard about this concept.
mircea_popescu: for the record, if a system had this sort of "semantic indirection" built in where any fuckwad could "redefine OPEN()" i'd burn it and piss on the ashes.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: naggum was, as you can probably tell, 'roman', or 'man of civilization', 'i'ma drown like a gentleman ! (tm) (r) (brit officer)' etc.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the coming of 'justice holman's, preets, etc. is not unlike the fungus in aids patient - it is not there from insufficient antifungal intake. by the time it appears, ought to pick out tomb stone, write will.
mircea_popescu: seems to me it's rather about how amphibious buldozers are unnecessary because her majesty's engineering corps may one day get around to building a road that goes where I WANT.
asciilifeform: subj is not about whether mircea_popescu likes to plow through swamp. but about whether roads are unnecessary because let's all buy amphibious bulldozers.
mircea_popescu: i want to plow right through the fucking swamp.
mircea_popescu: fuck you bitch, i DO NOT WANT to find a better way.
asciilifeform: (not an easy thing to be in norway)
mircea_popescu: "find a better way to do what you want than shooting justice holman"
mircea_popescu: his "open car design" is copied exactly off the "no guns" europolicy.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the two items have nothing to do with one another.
mircea_popescu: yes. and the reason no allowance for it is made in say v is also very particular.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: naggum's 'dynamism' is a very particular thing.
asciilifeform: 'would have to redesign machine!1111'
asciilifeform: 'only a lunatic would suggest that i part with z.'
asciilifeform: very, to be fair, easy trap to fall in. 'i just want to y while never letting go of z.'
asciilifeform: at any rate, it is applicable, imho, to herr laddel.
asciilifeform: iver on the far side of the forest. you can't get all that right away after you made up your mind to veer off the road, and This Is Surely Somebody's Fault...'
asciilifeform: 'suppose you drive down the highway and you suddenly want to go some nice place you saw just before you pass a forest. you veer off the road, plunge into the wilderness and promptly decide that you need four-wheel drive, a huge cutting device in front of your car, much better shock absorbers, a bigger engine that could actually run on swamp water instead of getting all drowned, and then need an amphibious vehicle to get across the r ☟︎
asciilifeform: re earlier thread, did we ever do http://www.xach.com/naggum/articles/3144404199547949@naggum.no.html ?
trinque: mircea_popescu: I'd have to start collecting that information, but yes
mircea_popescu: well, now and again the matter will pop up anew.
phf: i wrote a loader for them though, and they load, eating up another 100mb or so
phf: (mostly because those logs will have to have negative id's, i assume there are bunch of places, where ids are handled with parse-integer)
phf: mircea_popescu: i haven't had time to integrate it, my spare cycles were going into bot rewrite
mircea_popescu: phf wait, how does this work ? i recall i sent you a batch, or was there a problem there ?
phf: but otherwise it's to the early days of b-a
asciilifeform: which is sad, because by this time he could have rebirthed himself with new key and worked long enough for new key to add up to a man
phf: mircea_popescu: i don't have the 2012 ones yet
PeterL: or too ashamed to admit loss of key
asciilifeform: herr laddel would not be the first unlucky fella to lose key and then be 'too lazy to reach for it' for yearz.
asciilifeform: other folks - welcome to grep own l0gz. ☟︎
asciilifeform: now it is conceivable that he was here when my fiber was down or etc.
a111: Logged on 2014-11-22 06:21 punkman: another fun exercise, trying to install Linux on 3TB disk
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2014-11-22#931508 << the logged line immediately after his last known selfvoice. ☝︎
PeterL: ah, that was before B-A/Trilema split
asciilifeform: 'FreeNode-#bitcoin-assets.log:Nov 22 01:21:09 * assbot gives voice to gabriel_laddel'
PeterL: maybe a command could be added to deedbot to return last time verifyed?
mircea_popescu: apparently this needs an actual command, $last_check name or somesuch. looks for the last time someone self-authed.
mircea_popescu: of course... he wouldn't do it in cahn in the first place would he.
asciilifeform: iirc phf has whole set in there
mircea_popescu: phf you importing those already!!11
PeterL: would not be in chan, $up is to deedbot
mircea_popescu: im too lazy to dig up the old logfiles.
asciilifeform: when's the last time he $v'd, while we're on subj ?
mircea_popescu: young fetching fellow living in sunny climate, fucking locals for showers. not that rare.
asciilifeform: but this? is a first, to me.
asciilifeform: is on the run, shot the sheriff, or wat.
asciilifeform: how's this wurk
asciilifeform: he has 'clients', is writing dissertation, taking in 1000s in donation, etc
asciilifeform: most pages are not 'so lucky', but that one was cult hit