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mod6: I think I'm alright with that, again, if it's considered a "notional" number.
mod6: ahh, alright. i get what you mean. so it's a bit simpler to just get the forex number at the time of the statement, rather than having to old up the previous months statement until a BTC/USD price point is established.
ben_vulpes: i do not think that this coupling is necessary, however. a photo of the exchange rate from BingoBoingo at the same cambio on the 27th every month may be adequate.
ben_vulpes: the past two statements i have pulled that value from xe or forex.com at the time of statement generation. if you want to couple the UYU/USD price timing to that of the USD/BTC price timing, you'd have to hold off on issuing the previous month's statement until you have a btc price signal /for the month after the statement/, and then ask BingoBoingo what the uyu/usd rate is on that day in order to provide a
mod6: ok np at all, just trying to get the process of getting these numbers. take your time. i feel like I'm learning a lot here with all of this, it's super helpful.
ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-05#1839607 there is a fine point here, that this is notionally a "closing-of-the-month" value for the UYU ☝︎
mod6: ok so now that i've figured out that cash number from the Assets table, there will still two other questions for you above ^ when you get a chance: the depreciation of UY3, and the sum of the book values.
ben_vulpes: mod6: for what it's worth, i twice audited holdings while generating statements and they both came out correct. i suggest you use the statement generation process (combing through ledger/invoice output) to generate statements first, and audit against your personal accounts as a check.
mod6: i honestly think that would be a much clearer accounting way to go.
ben_vulpes: anyways yes, if you want to audit the correctness of the statement against the value of cash held on behalf of pizarro, you will have to deduct your personal transactions from whatever account pizarro transactions flow in order to calculate a correct number.
ben_vulpes: book truth lies in the statements; it is useful to verify that the cash line is correct but i would use it as a check, not the starting point from which to generate statements given a) payment timing b) personal use of accounts
mod6: ben_vulpes: qq on the UYU book value -- you listed 0.21648971 , but I get the above ^ am I doing that correctly? Or am I using a bad UYU/USD number?
mod6: The Fiat Liabilities table looks right -- My understanding here is that we have a $2500 entry here for the wildcat bonus because we initially allocated the wildcat bonus for $7500, paid out $5000, and are carrying the libility forward until it's paid September 1st. Correct ben_vulpes ?
mod6: Further more, he seems to like it as a good place to receive items. So maybe just strike the part that says "no further need for coworking desk" and edit to something like "expected reduction in cost for cowork desk" or something thereabouts.
mircea_popescu: which is precisely the problem, because "they want miami." is just a polite way of saying "however many bn cuntsquirts walk about, there's never bneen more than a million or two souls, and these schmucks don't got one."
mircea_popescu is particularly unimpressed by the sort of fucktard who goes all http://trilema.com/and-in-todays-lulz-the-obnoxious-cocksucker & http://trilema.com/2014/the-public-burning-of-bob-beck/ on me when i come offering ~a little~ actual money ; and then rolls over for usg's own "offers" of EXACTLY ZERO.
asciilifeform never was able to fathom what 'vpn' subscribers have in their crankcases instead of brains, to fall for such a thing
asciilifeform: what else is a 'vpn'
mircea_popescu: <milky25> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
mircea_popescu: <milky25> Freenode is registered as a "private company limited by guarantee without share capital" performing "activities of other membership organisations not elsewhere classified", with Christel and Andrew Lee (PIA's founder) as officers, and Andrew Lee having the majority of voting rights
mircea_popescu: <milky25> "All told, Handshake aims to give $250 worth of its tokens to *each* user of the websites the company has partnerships with – GitHub, the P2P Foundation and *FREENODE*, a chat channel for peer-to-peer projects. As such, developers who have existing accounts on each could receive up to $750 worth of Handshake tokens."
asciilifeform: diana_coman: re 'student bloopers', 1990s classic re subj, https://archive.is/UyuCi ( rumoured to be a gag, but entertaining )
phf: (in slime C-c C-d h on a standard common lisp symbol will open relevant hyperspec page for you)
phf: lobbes: hyperspec is first and last documentation you'll need for common lisp. it's generally a good idea to get a feel of what's where in it. it's the only authority on the expected behavior of your code.
lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-22#1837189 << in other news, I finally figured out my issue. I failed to notice a very crucial piece of the 'logbot-check-mode' method (http://btcbase.org/patches/logbot-genesis#selection-1265.19-1265.63). i.e. the bot's nick has to have irc mode set to +o or +v or else 'logbot-start-pg-thread' and 'logbot-send-outbox' will not be invoked. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: provided, of course, the whole show's not run off a script the kiddies bought from some dood in russia.
asciilifeform: whole thing is ~= a reddit.
deedbot: http://www.dianacoman.com/2018/08/04/a-collection-of-pearls-as-well-as-ever-sadder-epitaphs/ << Ossasepia - A Collection of Pearls as Well as Ever Sadder Epitaphs
mircea_popescu: anyway, tbh i'm mostly encouraging the utter collapse of freenode's "security" model. it should be obvious that lode/ae dorks could just as well REGISTER the spambots. it's a fully automated process, what's the problem, emails ? gimme a break. ☟︎
asciilifeform was very much a 'real time speech is for lamers' type, prior to hanbot's instigation
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: recall, asciilifeform was initially a very reluctant user of irc.
a111: Logged on 2018-08-04 22:05 asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: iirc i proposed at one time an intermediate item on the way to proper gossipd ( 'serpent'-ciphered tunneler to connect coupla ircd instances to each other, and ditto for users ( get otp cookie a la deedbot, get a key that's good for 1 tcp connect ) but so far instead followed mircea_popescu's advice re not wasting sweat on such a thing, but pushing with ffa so as to get with what to gossipd.
phf: asciilifeform: well, we don't have a gossipd, so our only move option is to take steps towards gossipd or leprotoilet. "i personally would prefer exodus from fleanode to happen on our schedule" exists at odds with both. it seems to ask for "faster gossipd" or "leprotoilet" now, hence at odds.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: rechanneling inside fleanode is much smaller undertaking than baking a reasonable substitute for whole item tho
mircea_popescu: and while at it, the essential part of "#b-a => #trilema transition happened" isn't even so much the (very extremely never-seen-before) narrow time wondows ; but the fact that ~it very much was~ on own fucking schedule. i don't recall having to hassle anyone about anything. it was a coupla days cuz it took me a coupla days, and it was a week because it took trinque, phf & gang a week.
asciilifeform: rather than to end up ersatzing into it from 'we now have a week to move'.
phf: well, right, but either or. no need to erect a leprotoilet right now if at all avoidable in the future.
asciilifeform: even on a dedicated leprotoilet -- it's simply unseemly.
phf: asciilifeform: presumably it is still a question of strategic superiority. there's no point on wasting resources on things of little consequence. #b-a => #trilema transition happened in a couple of days, with most original infra available within a week. nothing will prevent same when fleanode is defunct, meanwhile no reason to waste any cycles on it. also act from cause
a111: Logged on 2018-05-01 17:07 asciilifeform: quasi-relatedly, asciilifeform found himself wondering, why we're still on fleanode... between pizarro, mircea_popescu's racked boxes ( idk where, but presumably good ones ? ) , asciilifeform's own fiber, trinque , etc. could have a very solid irc net, potentially
asciilifeform: this being said, i personally would prefer exodus from fleanode to happen on our schedule, rather than in the wake of a catastrophic drop of it into complete unusability. ☟︎
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: iirc i proposed at one time an intermediate item on the way to proper gossipd ( 'serpent'-ciphered tunneler to connect coupla ircd instances to each other, and ditto for users ( get otp cookie a la deedbot, get a key that's good for 1 tcp connect ) but so far instead followed mircea_popescu's advice re not wasting sweat on such a thing, but pushing with ffa so as to get with what to gossipd. ☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: 'make own fleanode' ( out of e.g. http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-21#1837110 ) isn't much of a pill, the 'allcomers problem' doesn't go away merely from standing up a coupla ircd boxen ☝︎
mircea_popescu: !!rate cnomad -10 scammer, ran off with a dime. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: there's also #eulora an' #pizarro and iirc mod6 had one and a whole bunch. time to put them to work
mircea_popescu: "the man who marries a horse is an excentric man, not a man with a remarkable wife"
asciilifeform: pretty surreal experience. picture if you sat down to write a piece on tanks, and decided to start with discussion of chariots, and then saw that somehow chariot is mentioned nowhere, and the very word -- forgotten
a111: Logged on 2018-05-04 17:15 zx2c4: mircea_popescu: oh. so. "the world doesnt care about the cool hackers on the internet, but only the assholes with prestigious positions." this has been a widely known complaint for a long time
a111: Logged on 2018-03-21 16:44 mircea_popescu: "Like a bad ass she is, she proved to be wise beyond her years by standing head and shoulders (Or is it ass-tall) with the boys." doesn't even INTEND irony, you realise.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-18 01:18 phf: "The l0de radio hour is a long-running live call-in show that irregularly broadcasts over the internet, and to pirate shortwave and FM stations. It is hosted by Lode Ray Dio, a gypsy hustler with a long history of fraud, grifting, and treason. The show is notable for its frequent cancellations, obscene and bizarre content, and a high rate of listener suicide."
mircea_popescu: dude, just come out and fucking say it! "he was nobody on a stick, but we're jews so..."
mircea_popescu: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avram_Steuerman-Rodion << even better example, "Steuerman himself is often described as an obscure contributor to Romanian literature, but survives in cultural memory for having given a poetic voice to the ideals of Jewish integration. "
mircea_popescu: i can scarcely imagine a lulzier scene than argentina-borne monkeys inside german old diesel scrapmetal pile.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: as i understand, the .ar/.uy folk thought they could jury-rig a sort of 'alt-europe'.
asciilifeform: 'Relgis lived the final decade of his life as a pensioner of the Uruguayan state—in 1985, a law raised his pensión graciable to 20,000 new pesos a month' << lol
a111: Logged on 2018-05-05 18:05 mircea_popescu: aand in other items of entomological interest, the wikipedia take on politicized pseudo-literary criticism is something else. aphra behn is lionized, because they're ever-so-desperate to discover, invent or if need be entirely hallucinate "remarkable" cuntbearers of the shakespeare period that some random jailbird is A HEROINE OF FEMINISM!!!
mircea_popescu: "oh, that's a cat" "oh, journalists"
asciilifeform: usg.red set'em up a 'pedo scandal'(tm) to remove politically unreliable (i've nfi , but presumably even in this set of fleas there is a set of more- and less- nsa-approved halves ) ; so fleanode.blue whine ( redditus bonsaikitten has no response mechanism aside from the whine )
asciilifeform: it's a prayer to the inca, wat. typical homo redditus fare.
mircea_popescu: "christel on 2018-07-27 Many of you will have noticed that over the last few days there has been an extensive spambot wave on freenode, and on other networks." after which one loses interest in reading further, seeing how only a moron would use that lede.
mircea_popescu: * Topic for #freenode is: We know about the spam. Please see https://freenode.net/news/spambot-attack for a detailed statement. | User mode +R blocks PMs from unregistered users. Activate it with: /mode <YourNick> +R | Welcome to #freenode |
mircea_popescu: did i just talk myself into a 10% bill increase ? :D
mod6: i think there was a lot of mental gymnastics I had to do.
mircea_popescu: if youi buy a tank of gas for 50 bux gas isn't now 50bux a GALON, it's 50 bux a tank.
a111: Logged on 2018-08-04 00:27 BingoBoingo: Roughly how far out is a Cuntoo image for Rockchip?
mod6: Alright, last one that remains is BingoBoingo's should he decide to renew for a quarter. Of which, there is a price quote above.
ben_vulpes: billing as soon as the price signal is set avoids further waffling over spread between when price signal is set and when bills go out. necessarily entails a move to billing in advance.
mod6: and keeping clients happy, which im having a hard time doing.
ben_vulpes: mod6: you're doing a great job, don't hang yourself over a term of art.
mod6: ben_vulpes said at the end of last month that I should send the august ones as soon as I have the price point. which is also what I committed to doing when we had this last go-around a week ago.
trinque: lemme pull a list of invoice dates for ya
trinque: I don't have a problem with that, but like things to be defined
BingoBoingo: Roughly how far out is a Cuntoo image for Rockchip? ☟︎
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I'll give some cafes a try, but a side effect of the Mate crack pipes is that there aren't many cafes, and... Looking for a combination cafe+package reception kinda reinvents the cowork thing again.
BingoBoingo: I'm working a lot in the flat, but I've been getting hit with the cabin fever pretty hard since leaving the hostel. I've been using the cowork desk to get my dose of social orcnoise.
BingoBoingo: And it's still seeing use as a desk.
BingoBoingo: <ben_vulpes> BingoBoingo: now that you have the buttbox do you plan to rent the cowork desk in perpetuity? << I plan to knock it down to a part time deal, but it is still the best place we have to recieve packages, and the cabin fever hit pretty hard last month.
ben_vulpes: ("if so wtf that's a terrible use of money, and only subjects you to more orcery in your face")
mircea_popescu: which is indeed a lengthy list.
asciilifeform: it remains troo, today! just as in 2010, if you buy a bottle of vodka -- that's a 'bitcoin vodka'.
asciilifeform: possibly i missed a memo
mircea_popescu: or else you're a pedopath whatever.
mircea_popescu: however in the redditard logic, only the one who ~~~specifically agreed~~~ to a bitcoin-for-pizza trade counts. the rest didn't specifically agree and so "it can't be held against them". this is a thing, in the bible, and in inept school systems, and therefore... IT MUST BE HONORED!!!
asciilifeform: how did mircea_popescu put it in that old essay, 'some people think that if they buy a big enuff house, it will never need to be cleaned'
asciilifeform: in new ver , stats are generated by a cron.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: noticed this myself , still creaks under load periodically. i've a new ver of frontend with saner caching, in the conveyor.
mod6: is there a new town?!?!
mod6: can I put in a bid for "1.2bn" or does it need to be "1200mn" ?
lobbesbot: Logged on 2018-08-03 14:15:25: <lobbesbot> A#338 O=1bn HB=1bn E=08-03 16:33:06 (2h17) >>> 8.2k wFF q0
mod6: Do I just need to point it at a new IP?
mod6: Thanks guys, we can pick this back up in the morning. Have a good night. :]
mod6: Ok, I'll put in a bid tomorrow, I gotta buy some ecu with pizarro's funds (im nearly certain I don't have 1bn or even near that in my eulora acct), then put in the bid.
mod6: $8200 would cover us for a couple of months + some for sure.
mod6: BingoBoingo: That would be a nice way to go with the DC if they'll accept a payment bigger than the usual.
mircea_popescu: anyway, logically just tell the dc they're getting a large chunk payment towards your acct, and it takes care of however many months or w/e. i guess. dunno, your show.
mod6: BingoBoingo: are you in a position to be able to receive the $2050 or so per/month that you need for this from a bank wire?
mod6: So let's talk through this a bit, I want to try to understand fully here, and perhaps others do as well...
BingoBoingo: diana_coman: ty, I'll head over there in a little bit
mircea_popescu: kinda what threw me, "wtf are you talking rare, these were so pestilentially common for a summer or two even i ended up with some".
asciilifeform now has the notion that he has a board exactly like mircea_popescu's at the bottom of some ancient crate...