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mircea_popescu: which are both different from buttermilk etc. it's a huge topic, this, and honestly half of it comes from turkey an' lebanon :p
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo incidentally : yogurt is properly made out of boiled milk, whereas the same process applied to raw milk resulted in something called "sana" in romania of the time.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo this used to be what students lived off in the 80s/90s. there was an actual shop speficially catering to it. various sour milks and breads.
mircea_popescu: (incidentally, millet unlevened bread, now that's an experience. i have nfi why it's not becoming a hipster thing. maybe they never heard of it)
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo im romanian, im fucking evolved to eat bread. we've been eating bread for well over five millenia now, and it was millet before it was wheat.
mircea_popescu: joecool but getting good fruit is a nontrivial pursuit. say you "made your own wine". well... ? so what if you did.
mircea_popescu: joecool: undata: pretty much yeah, i hardly ever have it << my bet is because you live in a place with shitty (ie, supermarket) fruit.
mircea_popescu: which of these are you giving up because of that silly "evolved" theory ? i wasn't evolved to use a keyboard nor to cross the street nor do i give a shit.
mircea_popescu: and come to think of it, we're quite pointedly not evolved to use condoms, either.
mircea_popescu: saifedean: we humans are simply not evolved to eat grains and seeds. Evolution has worked for millions of years so << we humans are also simply not evolved to wash.
mircea_popescu: xanthyos: bringing a new guy here who wants in the wot <<< well, who is he ?
mircea_popescu: saifedean: chetty: "but I really don't see passing on grain entirely." Try it for a week and see what it does to you. How hard can that be? What do you stand to lose? <<< i'm pretty sure she did try it for a week on and off, multiple times. not purposefully or anything, just, how it happened.
mircea_popescu: "o no, we will just work with the usg, help them track bitcoiner's shippments. nothing bad could ever happen!"
mircea_popescu: so the sad news is, argentina has bad peaches down to a fucking artform. this set here, properly juicy, smell great, taste like fucking corcoduse
mircea_popescu: undata you would after shoveling corpses for a week or two.
mircea_popescu: joecool:plenty of deer to shoot and ran a large vegetable garden saifedean:undata but then... who will raise the aggregate demand?! <<< you two are aware that if this were the normal about 90% of urban population would die off through simple starvation within the decade, yes ?
mircea_popescu: undata: you want economic security; that's it. <<< could a visiting merchant buy a nice ham off of one of your families when passing through ?
mircea_popescu: joecool: ah i missed mp, funny seeing the noob log << good to know someone actually misses me :D
mircea_popescu: undata: the cheese could go too but that's no way to live << no buttermilk ? no yogurt ? why would i even.
mircea_popescu: i mean sure, the hamburger & canned hot dog crowd is eating very poorly, but that's not the same thing.
mircea_popescu: saifedean: making the switch from the crap that everyone eats today to paleo eating is no less revolutionary than jumping from the world of bezzle to bitcoin <<< eh get out with the paleo stuff. what do you do for cake ?
mircea_popescu: 1kg porterhouse steak is the golden standard in my eyes nao.
mircea_popescu: im curious when fluffypony shows over, see what he thinks.
mircea_popescu: you come here, you have a good steak, you forgot why you ever wanted to make a steakhouse. much like the man who was considering doing his own plumbing out of reeds in lebanon, moves to constantinople with the marble baths forgets all about it.
mircea_popescu: exactly right. cheap money and the high time preference.
mircea_popescu: i mean. of the inch thickness, a half inch in the middle is barely warm.
mircea_popescu: ah. the stuff that you eat like salmon, practically ? half raw in the middle ?
mircea_popescu: ended up eating a whole fucking pick in oradea on my way back
mircea_popescu: i mostly ate lamb and chicken over my time among the no-pok-people.
mircea_popescu: your meat sucks. it's not even how you cook it. it fucking sucks.
mircea_popescu: you know, i've never had any decent beef, not in cairo, not in luxor, not even in lebanon.
mircea_popescu: <saifedean> a struggle to secure excellent quality food << can you go into detail ?
mircea_popescu: it works extremely poorly if one merely copies the visible parts of the institution.
mircea_popescu: this model works extremely well if one has the basement (not just the gold, but also the many travel stories in the basement of their head)
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller saifedean i am familiar with your idea of restaurants. these work as a retirement ploy by old merchants, who have an immense pile of gold in the basement, a pretty wife and don't give a shit about what may come, they juist want people to hang out and chat with.
mircea_popescu: saifedean maybe. i am also very good at cooking, people love my stuff and i could definitely get them to pay.
mircea_popescu: turns out, it can keep the sane man about three years.
mircea_popescu: saifedean for my own curiosity, google that string (no quotes) see what pops up ?
mircea_popescu: yeah, and the reason is he's not yet met anyone that groks it fully, so as to answer objection properly.
mircea_popescu: by the way, you know how to use the tools here ? like say
mircea_popescu: "let us make claims backwards! it's almost like science!"
mircea_popescu: inasmuch as it's the blockchain it will HAVE To work. or bust.
mircea_popescu: if you prefer working locally then not worth it. if you generally use that machine/dc, then worth it.
mircea_popescu: well it's worth the time in the sense that not having the 30gb in question wherever your favourite staging environment is is a major handicap.